Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 123: Heather Heyer

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Kinglicious 08/14/17 7:07:38 PM #403:	Dark Young Link posted... What I'm suggesting is not the same thing. Dark Young Link posted... I critiqued them and I analyzed them. I've came to the conclusion that their beliefs are incompatible with humanity as a whole. Dark Young Link posted... Every single member of that side is part of the riot, every single person should be held responsible. Every single person there decided the spreading hate was "okay" if a statue was being taken down. Not a single innocent person exists on their side. Not a single one. The bottom two are in the same post as the first one. Read them again. With a German accent if you must. And add in that you've called for their arrest. Of all of them. This is VERY similar to the way Nazis thought. Same arguments, same claims, different people. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884778784] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote> What I'm suggesting is not the same thing. </quote> <cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote> I critiqued them and I analyzed them. I've came to the conclusion that their beliefs are incompatible with humanity as a whole.</quote> <cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>Every single member of that side is part of the riot, every single person should be held responsible. Every single person there decided the spreading hate was "okay" if a statue was being taken down. Not a single innocent person exists on their side. Not a single one.</quote> The bottom two are in the same post as the first one. Read them again. With a German accent if you must. And add in that you've called for their arrest. Of all of them. This is VERY similar to the way Nazis thought. Same arguments, same claims, different people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 7:10:52 PM #404:	MenuWars posted... For example, people go on and on about the amount of black people in poverty in the US because it's a disgustingly high percentage I agree with that. Then the argument goes further, it's the white peoples fault even though there's actually a far larger number of impoverished white families in the US. Percentage wise it's lesser, but if you're living in shit and people are blaming you for others living in shit, and because you make up much larger numbers, all you can see is how that isn't true... and yet you're supposed to eat it up, because of things your forefathers probably had nothing to do with, and that you yourself have taken no benefit from. Especially now with pretty much everyone having access to social media, language is more important than ever. Well that's not right. Who exactly is doing that to you Menu? --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884778943] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote>For example, people go on and on about the amount of black people in poverty in the US because it's a disgustingly high percentage I agree with that. Then the argument goes further, it's the white peoples fault even though there's actually a far larger number of impoverished white families in the US. Percentage wise it's lesser, but if you're living in shit and people are blaming you for others living in shit, and because you make up much larger numbers, all you can see is how that isn't true... and yet you're supposed to eat it up, because of things your forefathers probably had nothing to do with, and that you yourself have taken no benefit from. Especially now with pretty much everyone having access to social media, language is more important than ever.</quote> Well that's not right. Who exactly is doing that to you Menu?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/14/17 7:11:12 PM #405:	Kinglicious posted... Same arguments, same claims, different people. keep in mind that "different people" is also the only difference between, say, imprisoning an innocent person and a serial killer so it seems pretty key --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:884778959] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>Same arguments, same claims, different people.</quote> keep in mind that "different people" is also the only difference between, say, imprisoning an innocent person and a serial killer so it seems pretty key</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 08/14/17 7:13:02 PM #406:	Ah. Didn't think that's what you meant. I'd honestly day sex trafficking is looked down harder but that's because it's been an issue for much longer and got rejected that many more times. It's also a lot more personal to some, which helps. Maybe one day Nazism will be viewed in a similar light to remove. (And I'm not disagreeing with the prison system being a skewed version but it's more complicated. Still, I've got enough arguments on my plate that I can't really get into another.) --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884779061] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Ah. Didn't think that's what you meant. I'd honestly day sex trafficking is looked down harder but that's because it's been an issue for much longer and got rejected that many more times. It's also a lot more personal to some, which helps. Maybe one day Nazism will be viewed in a similar light to remove. (And I'm not disagreeing with the prison system being a skewed version but it's more complicated. Still, I've got enough arguments on my plate that I can't really get into another.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:14:40 PM #407:	Dark Young Link posted... MenuWars posted... For example, people go on and on about the amount of black people in poverty in the US because it's a disgustingly high percentage I agree with that. Then the argument goes further, it's the white peoples fault even though there's actually a far larger number of impoverished white families in the US. Percentage wise it's lesser, but if you're living in shit and people are blaming you for others living in shit, and because you make up much larger numbers, all you can see is how that isn't true... and yet you're supposed to eat it up, because of things your forefathers probably had nothing to do with, and that you yourself have taken no benefit from. Especially now with pretty much everyone having access to social media, language is more important than ever. Well that's not right. Who exactly is doing that to you Menu? I see it on social media constantly. Surprised you don't honestly. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884779148] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote>For example, people go on and on about the amount of black people in poverty in the US because it's a disgustingly high percentage I agree with that. Then the argument goes further, it's the white peoples fault even though there's actually a far larger number of impoverished white families in the US. Percentage wise it's lesser, but if you're living in shit and people are blaming you for others living in shit, and because you make up much larger numbers, all you can see is how that isn't true... and yet you're supposed to eat it up, because of things your forefathers probably had nothing to do with, and that you yourself have taken no benefit from. Especially now with pretty much everyone having access to social media, language is more important than ever.</quote> Well that's not right. Who exactly is doing that to you Menu?</quote> I see it on social media constantly. Surprised you don't honestly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:21:04 PM #408:	The American Prison system is a fucking disgrace. It's almost literally legalised slavery. They're profiteering from criminals which in essence seems like a great idea, make these people pay for their crimes. What it ignores is that it incentivises having criminals to keep up the profits. Edit: I forget the exact numbers but it's something stupid like 2 percent of people in the world are imprisoned, and 25 percent of those are American. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884779497] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>The American Prison system is a fucking disgrace. It's almost literally legalised slavery. They're profiteering from criminals which in essence seems like a great idea, make these people pay for their crimes. What it ignores is that it incentivises having criminals to keep up the profits. Edit: I forget the exact numbers but it's something stupid like 2 percent of people in the world are imprisoned, and 25 percent of those are American.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 7:21:44 PM #409:	Kinglicious posted... Honestly I don't think it's "merely" for that either for no small amount of them but it's a valid reason for the rest. And it's a valid reason of right wing rallies that aren't made by and for Nazis. And no, cops wouldn't. It's basically just gang violence at this point, something they traditionally back off from until it's safe or use extreme amounts of force, with no in between. They step in only for certain extreme cases like imminent risk of severe harm/death. Brawls? Ehh... not so much. Gang violence eh? And yet you feel the need to stand up for this "gang"? Shall we speak with the Bloods and Crips next? But the police not stepping in until it's too late. Unsurprising. Kinglicious posted... Nah, the current trend of hard rejection by right and left is good. Policies that can lead to may be bad (e.g., giving more power to the state) but that's a different argument. Yeah, it is incompatible. We've spent generations with a society that fully cannot work with a supremacist view of any kind, that's great. They took their platform and now are being rejected so hard, stormfront is having issues. They'll probably be pushed underground again or focus efforts in other places where supremacists are having more success, like Sweden ironically (if unfamiliar, Nazis there have grown due to the more open policies with migrants over the decades). And yes, only when it's so impossible to work will it be stamped out as much as possible. That's exactly what we want to do. Stamp it out. You were the one arguing against that this whole time. >_> Going "Oh this was bait, you should have done nothing." "You gave them attention" when it was said attention that cause things to happen. Stormfront is in trouble, there's apparently more cities taking down confederate statues in retaliation for what happened in Charlottesville. It's what happened last time. We didn't "tolerate" Nazis, we showed them that they were not welcome. Kinglicious posted... The bottom two are in the same post as the first one. Read them again. With a German accent if you must. And add in that you've called for their arrest. Of all of them. This is VERY similar to the way Nazis thought. Same arguments, same claims, different people. I'm talking about a group of "people" who want to kill off a race of people. I'm not speaking about an entire race. I'm not speaking about someone who has no control over how they were born. Don't compare me to such filth. These people are indefensible. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884779536] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly I don't think it's "merely" for that either for no small amount of them but it's a valid reason for the rest. And it's a valid reason of right wing rallies that aren't made by and for Nazis. And no, cops wouldn't. It's basically just gang violence at this point, something they traditionally back off from until it's safe or use extreme amounts of force, with no in between. They step in only for certain extreme cases like imminent risk of severe harm/death. Brawls? Ehh... not so much. </quote> Gang violence eh? And yet you feel the need to stand up for this "gang"? Shall we speak with the Bloods and Crips next? But the police not stepping in until it's too late. Unsurprising. <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, the current trend of hard rejection by right and left is good. Policies that can lead to may be bad (e.g., giving more power to the state) but that's a different argument. Yeah, it is incompatible. We've spent generations with a society that fully cannot work with a supremacist view of any kind, that's great. They took their platform and now are being rejected so hard, stormfront is having issues. They'll probably be pushed underground again or focus efforts in other places where supremacists are having more success, like Sweden ironically (if unfamiliar, Nazis there have grown due to the more open policies with migrants over the decades). And yes, only when it's so impossible to work will it be stamped out as much as possible.</quote> That's exactly what we want to do. Stamp it out. You were the one arguing against that this whole time. >_> Going "Oh this was bait, you should have done nothing." "You gave them attention" when it was said attention that cause things to happen. Stormfront is in trouble, there's apparently more cities taking down confederate statues in retaliation for what happened in Charlottesville. It's what happened last time. We didn't "tolerate" Nazis, we showed them that they were not welcome. <cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>The bottom two are in the same post as the first one. Read them again. With a German accent if you must. And add in that you've called for their arrest. Of all of them. This is VERY similar to the way Nazis thought. Same arguments, same claims, different people.</quote> I'm talking about a group of "people" who want to kill off a race of people. I'm not speaking about an entire race. I'm not speaking about someone who has no control over how they were born. Don't compare me to such filth. These people are indefensible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:21:47 PM #410:	Kinglicious posted... (And I'm not disagreeing with the prison system being a skewed version but it's more complicated. Still, I've got enough arguments on my plate that I can't really get into another.) Fair. It's definitely more complicated because society, imo, needs jails at some fundamental level and it's a matter of degree, whereas sex trafficking is always 100% bad and the only degree to which a society needs sex trafficking to exist is zero. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884779541] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote> (And I'm not disagreeing with the prison system being a skewed version but it's more complicated. Still, I've got enough arguments on my plate that I can't really get into another.)</quote> Fair. It's definitely more complicated because society, imo, needs jails at some fundamental level and it's a matter of degree, whereas sex trafficking is always 100% bad and the only degree to which a society needs sex trafficking to exist is zero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dowolf 08/14/17 7:23:28 PM #411:	Peace___Frog posted... Kinglicious posted... Where in the US? Is this a prison system thing you're talking about? Are you aware that there is an enormous amount of sex trafficking that occurs in the US, primarily of women from third world countries? But yes, the prison industrial complex that you bring up is nothing but a modern form of slavery with a hashtag aesthetic veneer. Even ignoring sex trafficking, there remains slavery in both the agricultural industry and with domestic workers. ...Go do a modicum of research on this, Wang. What you will discover might blow your mind. Slavery did not vanish to the shadows because it became outclassed by superior models -- it disappeared because society inverted the natural order and decided that a certain viewpoint would not be tolerated. While I agree with you that the government should not prevent freedom of speech, that does not obligate anyone else to listen, or to present repugnant viewpoints as if they are the equals of good ones. --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius <cite>dowolf posted [p:884779629] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kinglicious posted...</cite> <quote>Where in the US? Is this a prison system thing you're talking about?</quote> Are you aware that there is an enormous amount of sex trafficking that occurs in the US, primarily of women from third world countries? But yes, the prison industrial complex that you bring up is nothing but a modern form of slavery with a hashtag aesthetic veneer.</quote> Even ignoring sex trafficking, there remains slavery in both the agricultural industry and with domestic workers. ...Go do a modicum of research on this, Wang. What you will discover might blow your mind. Slavery did not vanish to the shadows because it became outclassed by superior models -- it disappeared because society inverted the natural order and decided that a certain viewpoint would not be tolerated. While I agree with you that the government should not prevent freedom of speech, that does not obligate anyone else to listen, or to present repugnant viewpoints as if they are the equals of good ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:26:15 PM #412:	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289 A gross but worthy read. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884779787] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289 A gross but worthy read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/14/17 7:29:18 PM #413:	Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system) --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:884779956] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 7:29:19 PM #414:	MenuWars posted... I see it on social media constantly. Surprised you don't honestly. Oh absolutely. People on the internet can be racist. But um... you're getting the low end of that racism spectrum. >_> That doesn't make it okay. That doesn't mean your feelings doesn't matter. But holy shit the things I've seen said over the years. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884779958] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote> I see it on social media constantly. Surprised you don't honestly.</quote> Oh absolutely. People on the internet can be racist. But um... you're getting the low end of that racism spectrum. >_> That doesn't make it okay. That doesn't mean your feelings doesn't matter. But holy shit the things I've seen said over the years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:30:41 PM #415:	LordoftheMorons posted... Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system) Why what's the problem with it? --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884780018] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system)</quote> Why what's the problem with it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 7:30:52 PM #416:	MenuWars posted... I mean Wang's point about the dehumanisation of the Jews is emblematic of what I'm arguing against. The same way immigrants are described as "tides, swarms, hordes" is what's happening via the left toward white people in general... and what's worse is that's absolutely not what they're about, but they use the same rhetoric. I 100% agree with this. As tempting as it is to call a Nazi a subhuman monster, they are human. They are broken humans. Some can be fixed, some can't, and once they act on their ideals they start forfeiting some of their basic human rights, but they bleed like you and me. To anyone calling them subhuman, if you were part of an army that had one captured who had killed people, would you still feed him and offer him basic necessities? You would, because he's a human. Think back to the Guantanamo Bay stuff and all the abuses on prisoners there. Set aside the idea that there had been no trial and no guilt determined; let's assume at least one person detained there was guilty. Is it cool that our guards did that to a guilty terrorist? No, it's not. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884780030] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote>I mean Wang's point about the dehumanisation of the Jews is emblematic of what I'm arguing against. The same way immigrants are described as "tides, swarms, hordes" is what's happening via the left toward white people in general... and what's worse is that's absolutely not what they're about, but they use the same rhetoric.</quote> I 100% agree with this. As tempting as it is to call a Nazi a subhuman monster, they are human. They are broken humans. Some can be fixed, some can't, and once they act on their ideals they start forfeiting some of their basic human rights, but they bleed like you and me. To anyone calling them subhuman, if you were part of an army that had one captured who had killed people, would you still feed him and offer him basic necessities? You would, because he's a human. Think back to the Guantanamo Bay stuff and all the abuses on prisoners there. Set aside the idea that there had been no trial and no guilt determined; let's assume at least one person detained there was guilty. Is it cool that our guards did that to a guilty terrorist? No, it's not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:32:27 PM #417:	Dark Young Link posted... MenuWars posted... I see it on social media constantly. Surprised you don't honestly. Oh absolutely. People on the internet can be racist. But um... you're getting the low end of that racism spectrum. >_> That doesn't make it okay. That doesn't mean your feelings doesn't matter. But holy shit the things I've seen said over the years. Of course I am I live in a predominantly white country. I'm not complaining about oh poor me I'm trying to show that misdirected hatred escalates things and just makes matters worse. We can all do so much better but most of the time we just want to insult each other cus as a species we're dicks. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884780127] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote> I see it on social media constantly. Surprised you don't honestly.</quote> Oh absolutely. People on the internet can be racist. But um... you're getting the low end of that racism spectrum. >_> That doesn't make it okay. That doesn't mean your feelings doesn't matter. But holy shit the things I've seen said over the years.</quote> Of course I am I live in a predominantly white country. I'm not complaining about oh poor me I'm trying to show that misdirected hatred escalates things and just makes matters worse. We can all do so much better but most of the time we just want to insult each other cus as a species we're dicks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:32:29 PM #418:	Illinois State Senate passes resolution calling for neo nazis to be classified as terror groups. Once again, a reminder that local and state politics can change far faster than federal. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884780130] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Illinois State Senate passes resolution calling for neo nazis to be classified as terror groups. Once again, a reminder that local and state politics can change far faster than federal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/14/17 7:33:47 PM #419:	MenuWars posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system) Why what's the problem with it? It's a conspiracy theory site run by this dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:884780201] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system)</quote> Why what's the problem with it?</quote> It's a conspiracy theory site run by this dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:34:12 PM #420:	Peace___Frog posted... Illinois State Senate passes resolution calling for neo nazis to be classified as terror groups. Once again, a reminder that local and state politics can change far faster than federal. Awesome. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884780223] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Illinois State Senate passes resolution calling for neo nazis to be classified as terror groups. Once again, a reminder that local and state politics can change far faster than federal.</quote> Awesome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:36:35 PM #421:	LordoftheMorons posted... MenuWars posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system) Why what's the problem with it? It's a conspiracy theory site run by this dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky Oh.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/16/us-prisons-jail-private-healthcare-companies-profit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-10/trump-deportation-plan-to-hand-windfall-to-a-dying-u-s-industry https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21718897-idaho-prisoners-roast-potatoes-kentucky-they-sell-cattle-prison-labour --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884780344] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Globalresearch.ca is a garbage site that you shouldn't be citing (Not to defend the American prison system)</quote> Why what's the problem with it?</quote> It's a conspiracy theory site run by this dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky</quote> Oh.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/16/us-prisons-jail-private-healthcare-companies-profit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-10/trump-deportation-plan-to-hand-windfall-to-a-dying-u-s-industry https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21718897-idaho-prisoners-roast-potatoes-kentucky-they-sell-cattle-prison-labour</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 7:38:33 PM #422:	Jakyl25 posted... To anyone calling them subhuman, if you were part of an army that had one captured who had killed people, would you still feed him and offer him basic necessities? You would, because he's a human. Think back to the Guantanamo Bay stuff and all the abuses on prisoners there. Set aside the idea that there had been no trial and no guilt determined; let's assume at least one person detained there was guilty. Is it cool that our guards did that to a guilty terrorist? No, it's not. Fair enough. I wouldn't be okay with starving someone to death. Nor would I want a person who hasn't even had a chance to legally defend themselves to be tortured. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884780454] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>To anyone calling them subhuman, if you were part of an army that had one captured who had killed people, would you still feed him and offer him basic necessities? You would, because he's a human. Think back to the Guantanamo Bay stuff and all the abuses on prisoners there. Set aside the idea that there had been no trial and no guilt determined; let's assume at least one person detained there was guilty. Is it cool that our guards did that to a guilty terrorist? No, it's not.</quote> Fair enough. I wouldn't be okay with starving someone to death. Nor would I want a person who hasn't even had a chance to legally defend themselves to be tortured.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:41:08 PM #423:	I can imagine that meeting in the senate. "Hey guys why aren't Nazis considered a terrorist organisation?" Everyone else "Wait they're not?" "Nope" "Oh shit" --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884780596] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I can imagine that meeting in the senate. "Hey guys why aren't Nazis considered a terrorist organisation?" Everyone else "Wait they're not?" "Nope" "Oh shit"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 7:41:41 PM #424:	MenuWars posted... Of course I am I live in a predominantly white country. I'm not complaining about oh poor me I'm trying to show that misdirected hatred escalates things and just makes matters worse. We can all do so much better but most of the time we just want to insult each other cus as a species we're dicks. Right. I wish it wouldn't happen either. I.... even have some family members who act that way. It pains me because it isn't right. The things that happened to them wasn't right either, but hating white people because of that.. Granted I'm not a saintly person. I'm perfectly fine with say... hating someone who directly caused your harm, but not their grandchildren. Never liked the "Sins of Our Fathers" thing. Peace___Frog posted... Illinois State Senate passes resolution calling for neo nazis to be classified as terror groups. Once again, a reminder that local and state politics can change far faster than federal. Nice! --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884780632] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote>Of course I am I live in a predominantly white country. I'm not complaining about oh poor me I'm trying to show that misdirected hatred escalates things and just makes matters worse. We can all do so much better but most of the time we just want to insult each other cus as a species we're dicks.</quote> Right. I wish it wouldn't happen either. I.... even have some family members who act that way. It pains me because it isn't right. The things that happened to them wasn't right either, but hating white people because of that.. Granted I'm not a saintly person. I'm perfectly fine with say... hating someone who directly caused your harm, but not their grandchildren. Never liked the "Sins of Our Fathers" thing. <cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Illinois State Senate passes resolution calling for neo nazis to be classified as terror groups. Once again, a reminder that local and state politics can change far faster than federal.</quote> Nice!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/14/17 7:43:45 PM #425:	I want to say here that I basically called it I said Trump would eventually begrudgingly condemn white supremacists by name, and follow it up with some sort of "There, I did it, are you happy now!!" That's basically what this fucking new Tweet is, all but admitting he only did it to try to make the media happy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884780734] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I want to say here that I basically called it I said Trump would eventually begrudgingly condemn white supremacists by name, and follow it up with some sort of "There, I did it, are you happy now!!" That's basically what this fucking new Tweet is, all but admitting he only did it to try to make the media happy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 08/14/17 7:43:58 PM #426:	https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825 --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:884780750] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 08/14/17 7:44:09 PM #427:	Dark Young Link posted... Never liked the "Sins of Our Fathers" thing. Fwiw, that concept is supposed to be more towards atonement rather than justification for hatred. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:884780762] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark Young Link posted...</cite> <quote>Never liked the "Sins of Our Fathers" thing.</quote> Fwiw, that concept is supposed to be more towards atonement rather than justification for hatred.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:46:20 PM #428:	transcience posted... https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825 more good news coming out this evening! --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884780858] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825</quote> more good news coming out this evening!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/14/17 7:46:38 PM #429:	Jakyl25 posted... MenuWars posted... I mean Wang's point about the dehumanisation of the Jews is emblematic of what I'm arguing against. The same way immigrants are described as "tides, swarms, hordes" is what's happening via the left toward white people in general... and what's worse is that's absolutely not what they're about, but they use the same rhetoric. I 100% agree with this. As tempting as it is to call a Nazi a subhuman monster, they are human. They are broken humans. Some can be fixed, some can't, and once they act on their ideals they start forfeiting some of their basic human rights, but they bleed like you and me. To anyone calling them subhuman, if you were part of an army that had one captured who had killed people, would you still feed him and offer him basic necessities? You would, because he's a human. Think back to the Guantanamo Bay stuff and all the abuses on prisoners there. Set aside the idea that there had been no trial and no guilt determined; let's assume at least one person detained there was guilty. Is it cool that our guards did that to a guilty terrorist? No, it's not. Thank you. You're a little more optimistic than me though. I don't put it past most people to just shoot others if they think those others are evil and dangerous. I am thankful we have the Bill of Rights here and that we won the war, yet neither of those means that it couldn't happen here. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:884780873] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote>I mean Wang's point about the dehumanisation of the Jews is emblematic of what I'm arguing against. The same way immigrants are described as "tides, swarms, hordes" is what's happening via the left toward white people in general... and what's worse is that's absolutely not what they're about, but they use the same rhetoric.</quote> I 100% agree with this. As tempting as it is to call a Nazi a subhuman monster, they are human. They are broken humans. Some can be fixed, some can't, and once they act on their ideals they start forfeiting some of their basic human rights, but they bleed like you and me. To anyone calling them subhuman, if you were part of an army that had one captured who had killed people, would you still feed him and offer him basic necessities? You would, because he's a human. Think back to the Guantanamo Bay stuff and all the abuses on prisoners there. Set aside the idea that there had been no trial and no guilt determined; let's assume at least one person detained there was guilty. Is it cool that our guards did that to a guilty terrorist? No, it's not.</quote> Thank you. You're a little more optimistic than me though. I don't put it past most people to just shoot others if they think those others are evil and dangerous. I am thankful we have the Bill of Rights here and that we won the war, yet neither of those means that it couldn't happen here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:47:15 PM #430:	transcience posted... https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825 As much as I'm kinda glad the statues gone. This is an oh dear moment. Albeit maybe if poking the bear enough makes em come out hiding it'll help round em all up and get rid of those preaching hatred. But pissing off a nazi bear isn't what I would consider "smart" --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884780918] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825</quote> As much as I'm kinda glad the statues gone. This is an oh dear moment. Albeit maybe if poking the bear enough makes em come out hiding it'll help round em all up and get rid of those preaching hatred. But pissing off a nazi bear isn't what I would consider "smart"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/14/17 7:48:44 PM #431:	transcience posted... https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825 Nice. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:884780995] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825</quote> Nice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 7:48:48 PM #432:	To be fair my nutjob comment was because I distinctly remember Menu's name being a hot issue sometime in the past. May have been Undertale related? Something where his account was being referred to by people off site. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884780999] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>To be fair my nutjob comment was because I distinctly remember Menu's name being a hot issue sometime in the past. May have been Undertale related? Something where his account was being referred to by people off site.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:49:37 PM #433:	Ugh. Some bad news. https://twitter.com/AnneFrankCenter/status/897241196640206848 New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston has been vandalized. It's what happens, @POTUS, in the incubator of hate you've worked to create. https://t.co/nckefi7MTr Now before wang, corrik, or red sox make some false equivalency of destruction of public property, note that the former was a glamorous celebration of a man and the latter is a memorial to millions of dead innocents. If you want to equate them, then you're implying that dead minorities are worth shunning. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781040] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Ugh. Some bad news. https://twitter.com/AnneFrankCenter/status/897241196640206848 <quote>New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston has been vandalized. It's what happens, @POTUS, in the incubator of hate you've worked to create. https://t.co/nckefi7MTr</quote> Now before wang, corrik, or red sox make some false equivalency of destruction of public property, note that the former was a glamorous celebration of a man and the latter is a memorial to millions of dead innocents. If you want to equate them, then you're implying that dead minorities are worth shunning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/14/17 7:50:10 PM #434:	Peace___Frog posted... Ugh. Some bad news. https://twitter.com/AnneFrankCenter/status/897241196640206848 New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston has been vandalized. It's what happens, @POTUS, in the incubator of hate you've worked to create. https://t.co/nckefi7MTr Now before wang, corrik, or red sox make some false equivalency of destruction of public property, note that the former was a glamorous celebration of a man and the latter is a memorial to millions of dead innocents. If you want to equate them, then you're implying that dead minorities are worth shunning. This actually just happened a month ago. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884781086] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Ugh. Some bad news. https://twitter.com/AnneFrankCenter/status/897241196640206848 <quote>New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston has been vandalized. It's what happens, @POTUS, in the incubator of hate you've worked to create. https://t.co/nckefi7MTr</quote> Now before wang, corrik, or red sox make some false equivalency of destruction of public property, note that the former was a glamorous celebration of a man and the latter is a memorial to millions of dead innocents. If you want to equate them, then you're implying that dead minorities are worth shunning.</quote> This actually just happened a month ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:51:17 PM #435:	really? Must have been missed with all the other news. Anne Frank Center is presenting it as if it's current, my bad. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781142] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>really? Must have been missed with all the other news. Anne Frank Center is presenting it as if it's current, my bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/14/17 7:51:39 PM #436:	Dunno who is more obsessed with me. Peaf or Regaro. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884781167] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Dunno who is more obsessed with me. Peaf or Regaro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/14/17 7:51:52 PM #437:	Peace___Frog posted... really? Must have been missed with all the other news. Anne Frank Center is presenting it as if it's current, my bad. It is current. It ALSO happened a month ago. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884781172] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>really? Must have been missed with all the other news. Anne Frank Center is presenting it as if it's current, my bad.</quote> It is current. It ALSO happened a month ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:52:13 PM #438:	SupremeZero posted... Peace___Frog posted... really? Must have been missed with all the other news. Anne Frank Center is presenting it as if it's current, my bad. It is current. It ALSO happened a month ago. Oh. Fucking A. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781195] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>really? Must have been missed with all the other news. Anne Frank Center is presenting it as if it's current, my bad.</quote> It is current. It ALSO happened a month ago.</quote> Oh. Fucking A.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 08/14/17 7:52:25 PM #439:	I've been away this weekend and hoooooly shit. This is the first time I just couldn't really try to read everything...glanced over the news links and some posts as best as I could, but wow at these past three topics. This weekend was an embarrassment to our country and it's because of these new-age Nazi LARPers. Donald continues to disappoint in slimy new ways too. I've been meaning to ask how Ulti was doing nowadays, but this weekend answered that and it's disappointing to see. =/ Wang's overly defensive about free speech (the artist and South Park fan in me appreciates that in him despite my own political limits on current events) and I don't care for the Gamergate tilt, but recognize those disagreements and I think it's pretty easy to tell he's studied and means what he says with us. Thank you Corrik for speaking up as often as I saw. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:884781202] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I've been away this weekend and hoooooly shit. This is the first time I just couldn't really try to read everything...glanced over the news links and some posts as best as I could, but wow at these past three topics. This weekend was an embarrassment to our country and it's because of these new-age Nazi LARPers. Donald continues to disappoint in slimy new ways too. I've been meaning to ask how Ulti was doing nowadays, but this weekend answered that and it's disappointing to see. =/ Wang's overly defensive about free speech (the artist and South Park fan in me appreciates that in him despite my own political limits on current events) and I don't care for the Gamergate tilt, but recognize those disagreements and I think it's pretty easy to tell he's studied and means what he says with us. Thank you Corrik for speaking up as often as I saw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/14/17 7:52:30 PM #440:	LapisLazuli posted... To be fair my nutjob comment was because I distinctly remember Menu's name being a hot issue sometime in the past. May have been Undertale related? Something where his account was being referred to by people off site. Hahaha, what? --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884781208] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair my nutjob comment was because I distinctly remember Menu's name being a hot issue sometime in the past. May have been Undertale related? Something where his account was being referred to by people off site.</quote> Hahaha, what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 7:52:41 PM #441:	transcience posted... https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825 Sweet. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884781219] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825</quote> Sweet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/14/17 7:53:16 PM #442:	MenuWars posted... LapisLazuli posted... To be fair my nutjob comment was because I distinctly remember Menu's name being a hot issue sometime in the past. May have been Undertale related? Something where his account was being referred to by people off site. Hahaha, what? I wish I could remember! --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:884781245] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair my nutjob comment was because I distinctly remember Menu's name being a hot issue sometime in the past. May have been Undertale related? Something where his account was being referred to by people off site.</quote> Hahaha, what?</quote> I wish I could remember!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/14/17 7:53:32 PM #443:	Just a side note... is the vandalism seriously a single broken window? That could have feasibly have been done by literally anyone and even accidentally. (Dunno if thats all it is or not) --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884781270] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Just a side note... is the vandalism seriously a single broken window? That could have feasibly have been done by literally anyone and even accidentally. (Dunno if thats all it is or not)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 08/14/17 7:53:51 PM #444:	I dont understand what you mean by that, I consider destruction of property a serious crime and hate anybody that does that. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:884781282] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>I dont understand what you mean by that, I consider destruction of property a serious crime and hate anybody that does that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/14/17 7:54:16 PM #445:	Peace___Frog posted... Ugh. Some bad news. https://twitter.com/AnneFrankCenter/status/897241196640206848 New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston has been vandalized. It's what happens, @POTUS, in the incubator of hate you've worked to create. https://t.co/nckefi7MTr Now before wang, corrik, or red sox make some false equivalency of destruction of public property, note that the former was a glamorous celebration of a man and the latter is a memorial to millions of dead innocents. If you want to equate them, then you're implying that dead minorities are worth shunning. You should let people speak for themselves. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:884781302] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Ugh. Some bad news. https://twitter.com/AnneFrankCenter/status/897241196640206848 <quote>New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston has been vandalized. It's what happens, @POTUS, in the incubator of hate you've worked to create. https://t.co/nckefi7MTr</quote> Now before wang, corrik, or red sox make some false equivalency of destruction of public property, note that the former was a glamorous celebration of a man and the latter is a memorial to millions of dead innocents. If you want to equate them, then you're implying that dead minorities are worth shunning.</quote> You should let people speak for themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 08/14/17 7:55:02 PM #446:	It's technically vandalism, so I wish they took it down a different way. But... I can't say this particular instance of vandalism upsets me either so <_< --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:884781342] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>It's technically vandalism, so I wish they took it down a different way. But... I can't say this particular instance of vandalism upsets me either so <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:55:30 PM #448:	Corrik posted... Just a side note... is the vandalism seriously a single broken window? That could have feasibly have been done by literally anyone and even accidentally. (Dunno if thats all it is or not) Your ability to parse meaning is in full display. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781365] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Just a side note... is the vandalism seriously a single broken window? That could have feasibly have been done by literally anyone and even accidentally. (Dunno if thats all it is or not)</quote> Your ability to parse meaning is in full display.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:56:20 PM #449:	Corrik posted... Just a side note... is the vandalism seriously a single broken window? That could have feasibly have been done by literally anyone and even accidentally. (Dunno if thats all it is or not) side note, when reg accuses you of gaslighting, this right here is what he's referring to --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781416] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Just a side note... is the vandalism seriously a single broken window? That could have feasibly have been done by literally anyone and even accidentally. (Dunno if thats all it is or not)</quote> side note, when reg accuses you of gaslighting, this right here is what he's referring to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/14/17 7:56:46 PM #450:	Those "windows" have inscriptions on them, and are about an inch thick. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884781445] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>Those "windows" have inscriptions on them, and are about an inch thick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:57:14 PM #451:	But babe, I ONLY broke your arm! You shouldn't leave me because of that, it was an accident! I was trying to pull you closer! --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781471] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>But babe, I ONLY broke your arm! You shouldn't leave me because of that, it was an accident! I was trying to pull you closer!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/14/17 7:59:03 PM #452:	MenuWars posted... transcience posted... https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825 As much as I'm kinda glad the statues gone. This is an oh dear moment. Albeit maybe if poking the bear enough makes em come out hiding it'll help round em all up and get rid of those preaching hatred. But pissing off a nazi bear isn't what I would consider "smart" Wow. That is super disrespectful. Robert E Lee was by all accounts a stand up American and evem Abraham Lincolns first choice as general and maintained his respect throughout. Courteously waged war and did not sink to depths the war did not need to go to. And, was also a former soldier of the United States as well. Sure he ultimately was a traitor to the country who put his own state above his country, but at least was to his own state and not a foreign power or selfish means. That is vandalism and should be prosecuted. Court of public opinion does not make a crime not a crime. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884781578] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DerrickQLewis/status/897235297485901825</quote> As much as I'm kinda glad the statues gone. This is an oh dear moment. Albeit maybe if poking the bear enough makes em come out hiding it'll help round em all up and get rid of those preaching hatred. But pissing off a nazi bear isn't what I would consider "smart"</quote> Wow. That is super disrespectful. Robert E Lee was by all accounts a stand up American and evem Abraham Lincolns first choice as general and maintained his respect throughout. Courteously waged war and did not sink to depths the war did not need to go to. And, was also a former soldier of the United States as well. Sure he ultimately was a traitor to the country who put his own state above his country, but at least was to his own state and not a foreign power or selfish means. That is vandalism and should be prosecuted. Court of public opinion does not make a crime not a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/14/17 7:59:15 PM #453:	You can't even bring yourself to condemn the action before you make excuses. Hahaha but you find it in you to strongly condemn a confederate statue being vandalised and assume it was Lee when no information presented stated that it was. You're a disgrace. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884781588] in Politics C... [t:75668052]...</cite> <quote>You can't even bring yourself to condemn the action before you make excuses. Hahaha but you find it in you to strongly condemn a confederate statue being vandalised and assume it was Lee when no information presented stated that it was. You're a disgrace.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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