Current Events > Ivanka actually condemned white supremacy and Neo Nazis, and racism

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Samurontai
08/13/17 1:45:43 PM
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Pretty surprised, tbh. Even if it was just a political stunt, good on her for having more balls than her father
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1234Life
08/13/17 1:50:13 PM
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I guess any support is good support in his eyes.
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itachi15243
08/13/17 1:56:40 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Tons of politicians, from the left and the right, and Trump family members have condemned Neo Nazis and white supremacists.

But Trump won't specifically do so.

What is his deal?


He knows they're his voters
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Blue_Dream87
08/13/17 1:59:12 PM
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ThePrinceFish
08/13/17 1:59:37 PM
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That's crazy, I would have expected her to be a raging anti-semite, what with her husband and all.
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Antifar
08/13/17 2:02:55 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Isn't she Jewish or married a Jewish dude?

Her husband, Jared Kushner, is Jewish, and I believe she converted after their marriage.
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NadYobWoc
08/13/17 2:17:28 PM
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You know we're in a bad spot when it's considered ballsy to condemn Nazis
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BLAKUboy
08/13/17 2:30:35 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Tons of politicians, from the left and the right, and Trump family members have condemned Neo Nazis and white supremacists.

But Trump won't specifically do so.

What is his deal?

"If they say great things about me, I'm gonna say great things about them."
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YourAlt
08/13/17 2:31:15 PM
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Trump won't condemn them unless they insult him first, lol.
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The Admiral
08/13/17 2:31:19 PM
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"Yeah, but still..."
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Samurontai
08/13/17 2:31:22 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Tons of politicians, from the left and the right, and Trump family members have condemned Neo Nazis and white supremacists.

But Trump won't specifically do so.

What is his deal?

"If they say great things about me, I'm gonna say great things about them."


I read that in Trumps voice lmfao
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Blue_Dream87
08/13/17 2:31:30 PM
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Antifar posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Isn't she Jewish or married a Jewish dude?

Her husband, Jared Kushner, is Jewish, and I believe she converted after their marriage.


Then why are we surprised?
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Ving_Rhames
08/13/17 2:32:24 PM
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YourAlt posted...
Trump won't condemn them unless they insult him first, lol.


This
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Samurontai
08/13/17 2:32:25 PM
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The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.
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Samurontai
08/13/17 2:34:39 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Antifar posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Isn't she Jewish or married a Jewish dude?

Her husband, Jared Kushner, is Jewish, and I believe she converted after their marriage.


Then why are we surprised?


Because she's Trumps daughter and is heavily involved in his administration.....?
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The Admiral
08/13/17 2:37:10 PM
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Samurontai posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.


Yeah, the whole "say what I want you to say or else you're silently supporting these white supremacists."

Amazing that the same people saying this would immediately start crying if you asked them to do same of Muslims for terrorism or black people for gang violence.
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RebelElite791
08/13/17 2:37:37 PM
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The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."

"Just because you think Nazis are evil"

-Admiral, 2017.
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Blue_Dream87
08/13/17 2:38:23 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Antifar posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Isn't she Jewish or married a Jewish dude?

Her husband, Jared Kushner, is Jewish, and I believe she converted after their marriage.


Then why are we surprised?


Because she's Trumps daughter and is heavily involved in his administration.....?


But she's not Trump. She has more reason to condemn this rally than Trump since it directly attacks her and her husband. Trump just wants to keep his voters, and they're so stupid that they already handwaved Ivanka.
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The Admiral
08/13/17 2:38:43 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."

"Just because you think Nazis are evil"

-Admiral, 2017.


"The only way I can ever have a gotcha moment is reposting half a sentence of yours without ever providing the context of the comment."

Stay a joke user, Rebel.
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RebelElite791
08/13/17 2:39:11 PM
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The Admiral posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."

"Just because you think Nazis are evil"

-Admiral, 2017.


"The only way I can ever have a gotcha moment is reposting half a sentence of yours without ever providing the context of the comment."

Stay a joke user, Rebel.

The context was you saying Nazis were socialists, someone said they weren't, you said "just because you think they're evil and this history upsets you"
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The Admiral
08/13/17 2:40:18 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
All Neo-Nazis have hateful beliefs. It's right there in the name


Okay, so why are people who are not neo-Nazis expected to speak out on this?
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hockeybub89
08/13/17 2:42:00 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Samurontai posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.


Yeah, the whole "say what I want you to say or else you're silently supporting these white supremacists."

Amazing that the same people saying this would immediately start crying if you asked them to do same of Muslims for terrorism or black people for gang violence.

But you want people to speak out about Muslims and black people. You even do it yourself. Why are you cool with the President losing his balls when a white supremacy terror attack happens?
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Samurontai
08/13/17 2:43:35 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Antifar posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Isn't she Jewish or married a Jewish dude?

Her husband, Jared Kushner, is Jewish, and I believe she converted after their marriage.


Then why are we surprised?


Because she's Trumps daughter and is heavily involved in his administration.....?


But she's not Trump. She has more reason to condemn this rally than Trump since it directly attacks her and her husband. Trump just wants to keep his voters, and they're so stupid that they already handwaved Ivanka.


Okay....?

She's supported him on literally everything else though, so I don't get the point you're trying to make here
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BLAKUboy
08/13/17 2:45:04 PM
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It's not exactly hard to believe that Ivanka wouldn't want to publicly go against her father, even on something like this.
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ChainedRedone
08/13/17 2:47:08 PM
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Samurontai posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.


Not surprised Admiral defends Trump. Even when increasingly more GOP politicians are pressuring him to. I guess his loyalty is more to Trump than the GOP itself. How's that for a Trumpanzee.
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BlackHorse6969
08/13/17 2:47:34 PM
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i wish ivanka were my president
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BootyGif
08/13/17 2:47:47 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Tons of politicians, from the left and the right, and Trump family members have condemned Neo Nazis and white supremacists.

But Trump won't specifically do so.

What is his deal?


He knows they're his voters
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The Admiral
08/13/17 2:49:17 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Samurontai posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.


Not surprised Admiral defends Trump. Even when increasingly more GOP politicians are pressuring him to. I guess his loyalty is more to Trump than the GOP itself. How's that for a Trumpanzee.


Attacking ignorant and hypocritical people on the left does not magically translate into a defense of Trump. I wish some of you guys had even remedial reading comprehension abilities.
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Samurontai
08/13/17 2:50:23 PM
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Hey look, he didn't even say the word liberal this time

Admiral is evolving :D
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ChainedRedone
08/13/17 3:04:13 PM
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The Admiral posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Samurontai posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.


Not surprised Admiral defends Trump. Even when increasingly more GOP politicians are pressuring him to. I guess his loyalty is more to Trump than the GOP itself. How's that for a Trumpanzee.


Attacking ignorant and hypocritical people on the left does not magically translate into a defense of Trump. I wish some of you guys had even remedial reading comprehension abilities.


What's hypocritical about expecting Trump to denounce neo Nazis? Or is the GOP hypocritical too? Are you going to backstab your party for the glory of Emperor Trump?
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Solar_Crimson
08/13/17 3:08:01 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Samurontai posted...
The Admiral posted...
"Yeah, but still..."


Have something you want to say Admiral?

So far, nobody has condemned the Republicans who have decided to condemn the Neo Nazi's, just the ones like Trump who refuse to do so.


Yeah, the whole "say what I want you to say or else you're silently supporting these white supremacists."

Amazing that the same people saying this would immediately start crying if you asked them to do same of Muslims for terrorism or black people for gang violence.

But you want people to speak out about Muslims and black people. You even do it yourself. Why are you cool with the President losing his balls when a white supremacy terror attack happens?

@The_Admiral
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ChainedRedone
08/13/17 3:14:14 PM
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AssultTank posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
What's hypocritical about expecting Trump to denounce neo Nazis? Or is the GOP hypocritical too? Are you going to backstab your party for the glory of Emperor Trump?

I wouldn't be surprised if he did disavow neo-Nazis considering how many time he's disavowed David Duke and the KKK in the past. And of course the whole "Hate Groups are not for me" quote from Face the Nation.


Is this satire?
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NinjaWarrior455
08/13/17 3:15:03 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
AssultTank posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
What's hypocritical about expecting Trump to denounce neo Nazis? Or is the GOP hypocritical too? Are you going to backstab your party for the glory of Emperor Trump?

I wouldn't be surprised if he did disavow neo-Nazis considering how many time he's disavowed David Duke and the KKK in the past. And of course the whole "Hate Groups are not for me" quote from Face the Nation.


Is this satire?

He has to stick up for his old mod buddies.
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ChainedRedone
08/13/17 3:16:17 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
AssultTank posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
What's hypocritical about expecting Trump to denounce neo Nazis? Or is the GOP hypocritical too? Are you going to backstab your party for the glory of Emperor Trump?

I wouldn't be surprised if he did disavow neo-Nazis considering how many time he's disavowed David Duke and the KKK in the past. And of course the whole "Hate Groups are not for me" quote from Face the Nation.


Is this satire?

He has to stick up for his old mod buddies.


But Trump got shit for refusing to condemn David Duke. It was a big thing on the news. So I don't know. I thought maybe it was satire.
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ChainedRedone
08/13/17 3:21:09 PM
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Holy shit do you believe everything that orange fat fuck says?

http://time.com/4240268/donald-trump-kkk-david-duke/

He literally says he doesn't know anything about David Duke. The next week claims he's denounced him many times. Are you that gullible? Jfc. Before you accuse the media of lying maybe you should consider that Trump might be the one lying to you.

Yeah one week he doesn't know anything about David Duke, the next week he knows all about him and has "denounced him over the years". Give me a fucking break.
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UnfairRepresent
08/13/17 3:34:09 PM
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It makes political sense for him not too

Sure liberals online are jumping up and down about it right now but in a week they won't care.

Meanwhile if he does directly address it, that just draws attention to it and causes him to give legitimatcey to the age old "Conservatives are just nazis!" rhetoric.

Its kinda like how Richard Dawkins refuses to have debates about intelligent design, because the moment he does so, no matter how the debate goes it has legitimatized Intelligent Design by making it something debating scientifically.

Trump denoucing Nazis won't benefit him at all and will just make the naysayers louder, meanwhile in a week the same naysayers will move on to the next thing to be mad about
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FrisbeeDude
08/13/17 3:36:49 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
All Neo-Nazis have hateful beliefs. It's right there in the name


Okay, so why are people who are not neo-Nazis expected to speak out on this?


Why are everyday muslims expected to speak out on Islamic terrorism?

Why are non criminal black people expected to speak out on inner city violence?
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Zodd3224
08/13/17 3:37:26 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Tons of politicians, from the left and the right, and Trump family members have condemned Neo Nazis and white supremacists.

But Trump won't specifically do so.

What is his deal?


Hiring Bannon and his love for Steve Miller and Alex Jones should answer your question
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FrisbeeDude
08/13/17 3:37:49 PM
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Maybe he misspoke, maybe he's just a moron and didn't remember who David Duke was.

Lol Jesus Christ this is just pathetic
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Antifar
08/13/17 3:38:06 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Trump denoucing Nazis won't benefit him at all and will just make the naysayers louder, meanwhile in a week the same naysayers will move on to the next thing to be mad about

Should presidents respond to incidents like this through cold political calculus, or should they speak from a moral position?
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dave_is_slick
08/13/17 3:38:22 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sure liberals online are jumping up and down

You very well know it isn't just them.
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UnfairRepresent
08/13/17 3:40:28 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...


Why are everyday muslims expected to speak out on Islamic terrorism?

Because Islam is a religion and violence from it's followers is global.

It makes sense that peaceful Muslims should be the loudest voice in shutting down the violence. Yet in reality it tends to be white atheist voices that do so. Which is absurd on so many levels.

Comparing an American political party to a global growing religion is a little absurd. I don't think you shoud discourage religious people from criticising their religion and curbing extremism, I feel you should do literally the opposite of that
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UnfairRepresent
08/13/17 3:44:06 PM
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Antifar posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Trump denoucing Nazis won't benefit him at all and will just make the naysayers louder, meanwhile in a week the same naysayers will move on to the next thing to be mad about

Should presidents respond to incidents like this through cold political calculus, or should they speak from a moral position?

Look at Jimmy the absolute political failure Carter to see what taking the moral position results in when you're the president.

Look at a history book, the greatest presidents of all time are complete asses, liars, crooks and hypocrites.

You think Lincoln, McKinley and JFK were assassinated because they were such nice people that their niceness drove people to breaking point?
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