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saspa 08/12/17 3:01:18 PM #1: |
Cloud and Sephiroth? Is Cloud like Snake and Sephiroth like Liquid?
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Questionmarktarius 08/12/17 3:02:56 PM #2: |
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Kisai 08/12/17 3:06:54 PM #3: |
I'm not sure why you're talking about dominant or recessive genes. It's not like MGS where there was some genetic science done on them in the womb. The closest we've got is Sephiroth, who was injected with Jenova cells while in the womb with the intent of turning him into some superhuman soldier.
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SomeLikeItHoth 08/12/17 3:08:48 PM #4: |
Zidane in FF9 had
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 08/12/17 3:09:28 PM #5: |
Blonde hair is a recessive gene, but I dunno what the fuck to make of Sephiroth's.
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Webmaster4531 08/12/17 3:09:41 PM #6: |
I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything.
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saspa 08/12/17 3:14:02 PM #7: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
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Emerald_Wyvern 08/12/17 3:15:02 PM #8: |
Well Cloud isn't a Sephiroth clone so....
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cobain27 08/12/17 3:18:21 PM #9: |
I'd just like to point out that the whole dominant/recessive thing in MGS is incredibly stupid and shows a complete lack of understanding how genetics work.
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 08/12/17 3:19:29 PM #10: |
cobain27 posted...
I'd just like to point out that the whole dominant/recessive thing in MGS is incredibly stupid and shows a complete lack of understanding how genetics work. Yep. Shoutouts to Katie Tiedrich --- I cannot believe it! http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 08/13/17 1:30:42 PM #11: |
Emerald_Wyvern posted...
Well Cloud isn't a Sephiroth clone so.... Then what's all this controlling cloud to give him the black materia thing? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kanaya413 08/13/17 1:31:54 PM #12: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
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Ivynn 08/13/17 1:34:55 PM #13: |
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itachi15243 08/13/17 1:35:09 PM #14: |
saspa posted...
Emerald_Wyvern posted...Well Cloud isn't a Sephiroth clone so.... --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Etherealfare 08/13/17 1:37:19 PM #16: |
saspa posted...
Emerald_Wyvern posted...Well Cloud isn't a Sephiroth clone so.... He was injected with Jenova's cells while in the Mako Vat. He was an experiment. When Cloud hands the Black Materia to Sephiroth, Hojo says something along the lines of "Oh...it's you...hmph, I don't want a failed experiment!" --- No time to freeze undercovers ease up in Grand Prix, and seize packages and pocket the currency - GZA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 08/13/17 1:40:19 PM #17: |
Etherealfare posted...
saspa posted...Emerald_Wyvern posted...Well Cloud isn't a Sephiroth clone so.... Iirc he told cloud that he didn't deserve a number because he was a failed experiment --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Etherealfare 08/13/17 1:41:43 PM #18: |
Yeah, that was it
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DevsBro 08/13/17 1:42:06 PM #19: |
Well the truth is there were originally eight Clouds, but six of them were sacrificed in the womb to increase the odds of survival of Solid Cloud (Zack) and Liquid Cloud (Cloud). But it wasn't until the sequel that they learned there was a Solidus Cloud too. Then they made Sephiroth Naked Cloud and also there was Ludcox, who was organization member XV and was actually Cloud's subconscious when Cloud was plugged into the Matrix where True Cloud--his residual self-image--fought against Agent Cloud, the Templar who headed Abstergo at the time.
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saspa 08/14/17 3:18:06 PM #20: |
DevsBro posted...
Well the truth is there were originally eight Clouds, but six of them were sacrificed in the womb to increase the odds of survival of Solid Cloud (Zack) and Liquid Cloud (Cloud). But it wasn't until the sequel that they learned there was a Solidus Cloud too. Then they made Sephiroth Naked Cloud and also there was Ludcox, who was organization member XV and was actually Cloud's subconscious when Cloud was plugged into the Matrix where True Cloud--his residual self-image--fought against Agent Cloud, the Templar who headed Abstergo at the time. That explains so much! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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obsolete 08/14/17 3:27:22 PM #21: |
What about Venom Cloud I didn't get that part.
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DevsBro 08/15/17 2:21:45 PM #22: |
Yeah me neither that's why I skipped that part.
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ChromaticAngel 08/15/17 2:27:05 PM #23: |
cobain27 posted...
I'd just like to point out that the whole dominant/recessive thing in MGS is incredibly stupid and shows a complete lack of understanding how genetics work. You are talking about a series where a guy gets his arm cut off and he replaces it with the arm of another guy and the other guy possesses the rest of the body from his arm. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 08/15/17 2:49:01 PM #24: |
I'd just like to point out that the whole dominant/recessive thing in MGS is incredibly stupid and shows a complete lack of understanding how genetics work. Not if you paid attention. Tell me what's wrong with it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 08/15/17 3:26:20 PM #25: |
DevsBro posted...
I'd just like to point out that the whole dominant/recessive thing in MGS is incredibly stupid and shows a complete lack of understanding how genetics work. for starters once you start swapping different types of genes around, you no longer have clones. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 08/15/17 3:57:32 PM #26: |
Sure, but that didn't happen.
Altering phenotype belongs in a genetics discussion but does nothing to the genetic code. Though MGS4 later retconned that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 08/15/17 4:20:59 PM #27: |
DevsBro posted...
Sure, but that didn't happen. recessive genes cannot be expressed if a dominant gene overpowers them. if you have two identical clones, one does not have more or less recessive genes than the others. It's impossible for Liquid --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 08/15/17 4:24:02 PM #28: |
Why is Glenn a marshmallow? I thought he was a frog.
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DevsBro 08/15/17 6:01:43 PM #29: |
That's why, like I quoted and you requoted, Liquid specifically says their genotypes are identical but their phenotypes are opposite.
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DevsBro 08/15/17 6:04:00 PM #30: |
I'm not even touching the Solid recessive thing. There is not one line of dialog that could even be misconstrued to say that. I dunno how that became such a common misconception.
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Jiek_Fafn 08/15/17 6:06:33 PM #31: |
DevsBro posted...
Well the truth is there were originally eight Clouds, but six of them were sacrificed in the womb to increase the odds of survival of Solid Cloud (Zack) and Liquid Cloud (Cloud). But it wasn't until the sequel that they learned there was a Solidus Cloud too. Then they made Sephiroth Naked Cloud and also there was Ludcox, who was organization member XV and was actually Cloud's subconscious when Cloud was plugged into the Matrix where True Cloud--his residual self-image--fought against Agent Cloud, the Templar who headed Abstergo at the time. I'm simultaneously disgusted with myself for being able to perfectly follow this and impressed by you for creating it. --- PSN: Jiek ... Copied to Clipboard!
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 08/15/17 6:08:39 PM #32: |
DevsBro posted...
I'd just like to point out that the whole dominant/recessive thing in MGS is incredibly stupid and shows a complete lack of understanding how genetics work. "Dominant genes are good, recessive genes are bad." --- I cannot believe it! http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 08/15/17 6:21:35 PM #33: |
"Dominant genes are good, recessive genes are bad." But this isn't actually true in-universe either. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Distant_Rainbow 08/15/17 6:26:25 PM #34: |
saspa posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/movieposters/11311/p11311_p_v8_af.jpg Nah, you're thinking of Junior. --- Link meets Fire Emblem in CYOA: Tales of Elibe! Come read, and find out what happens! Click below! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/468480-fire-emblem/75581177 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 08/15/17 6:52:00 PM #35: |
DevsBro posted...
I'm not even touching the Solid recessive thing. There is not one line of dialog that could even be misconstrued to say that. I dunno how that became such a common misconception. I wonder if you even played the game. Major spoilers --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 08/15/17 6:55:38 PM #36: |
I know without watching the video you're referring to the after credits scene, and I maintain that there's no line in the game that could even be misconstrued to mean that.
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ChromaticAngel 08/15/17 7:57:38 PM #37: |
DevsBro posted...
I know without watching the video you're referring to the after credits scene, and I maintain that there's no line in the game that could even be misconstrued to mean that. Ok. But there is nothing to misconstrue. They flat out say it with no uncertain terms. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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