Current Events > Why do people want people on food stamps to be miserable?

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Only want nasty food to be eligible for food stamps.

Bootstraps or something, I dunno.
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So that our attention is focused on them rather than on billionnaires getting government bailouts
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Miserable? They get free food, at the very least they should (barring disability and old age) work for it like everyone else.

So you shouldn't get assistance if you are seeking a job?
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Because they shouldn't be eating better than people who actually work to buy their food.

They're complaining about free food? What the fuck

That's misery to you? Get out more, kid. Smh

-Gavirulax- posted...

YourAlt posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Miserable? They get free food, at the very least they should (barring disability and old age) work for it like everyone else.

So you shouldn't get assistance if you are seeking a job?

Not after a certain amount of time, should be forced into a program like Work for the Dole like Australia uses.

A requirement for welfare (non-disabled) is the active search for employment.
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I don't hear complaints about how they need to eat dog food. Just that they shouldn't have the option for junk food and empty calories.

Then again, for some of us it was a life lesson we got while young. Mom always said if was willing to pay for it I could have anything I wanted for supper, but as long as she was buying and cooking the food, she'd control the menu.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

YourAlt posted...

A requirement for welfare (non-disabled) is the active search for employment.

Which can still be done and is under said program.

So you think forcing people to work for food is a good idea? Damn, land of the free

Would you change your mind and no care about this issue if the government reimbursed you the approximately 36 dollars a year that is used from your tax dollars to fund this program?
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Not after a certain amount of time, should be forced into a program like Work for the Dole like Australia uses.

I don't know how the Work for Dole system works but the UK one reduces the number of decent paying jobs.

-Gavirulax- posted...

YourAlt posted...

So you think forcing people to work for food is a good idea? Damn, land of the free

Indeed - of course I'm also somewhat against the Government effectively paying people insanely low wages for said job, thus if they insert someone into said program, pay them properly as well.

Of course it is all for profits, but I just see it as preferable to the alternative under prior administration and am not familiar with US policy.

I could not imagine how insanely difficult life would be if you were receiving a shit amount of food (no, people on welfare don't have it good or live big), required to seek and find employment (yes, benefits will run out if you don't find a job in a set amount of time, welfare is not infinite nor perpetual despite the ignorant myths), AND working at the same time? Damn

Welfare sounds so fun, we should all do it
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They should at least do it like the WIC program. Give people paper checks with specific items on them and put all kinds of tedious, arbitrary limitations on what they can buy. Not only would that help prevent wasteful spending and abuse, but it might motivate them to get off the food stamps.

Giving people hundreds of dollars to raid Wal Mart with is ridiculous. My post about them eating better than working families was no exaggeration.

YourAlt posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

YourAlt posted...

A requirement for welfare (non-disabled) is the active search for employment.

Which can still be done and is under said program.

So you think forcing people to work for food is a good idea? Damn, land of the free

Would you change your mind and no care about this issue if the government reimbursed you the approximately 36 dollars a year that is used from your tax dollars to fund this program?

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator
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Are y'all under the impression that people who collect foodstamps don't work

Everyone at my work who has foodstamps...works...
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the majority of actual beneficiaries of food stamps are children. scaling of the program is sharply driven by number of dependents.
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Are you talking about the US? Because it's entirely possible to still buy enjoyable food on food stamps within the program's rules.

The store chains that accept SNAP/etc has greatly expanded in the last 5 years. Walmart is a prime example. And the increase of small markets like dollar stores offer modest grocery selections too.

You don't have to eat shit on food stamps anymore, at least not if you have 2 working brains cells.
You just can't buy booze, cigarettes, etc with it. Fair.
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I volunteer at a food bank and honestly we load people's carts with so much garbage.

We always provide fruits, vegetables, and good meats, but then we also give a shitload of sugary crap and a metric fuckload of bread.

*sigh*

Think about the type of people on food stamps and then it'll make sense. >_> unfortunately
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Nukleen posted...

*sigh*

Think about the typeof people on food stamps and then it'll make sense. >_> unfortunately

Well that's fucked up there are plenty of people on food stamps that are just going through difficult circumstances.

Nukleen posted...

Think about the type of people on food stamps and then it'll make sense. >_> unfortunately

children?
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glitteringfairy posted...

YourAlt posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

YourAlt posted...

A requirement for welfare (non-disabled) is the active search for employment.

Which can still be done and is under said program.

So you think forcing people to work for food is a good idea? Damn, land of the free

Would you change your mind and no care about this issue if the government reimbursed you the approximately 36 dollars a year that is used from your tax dollars to fund this program?

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

Yeah, that 36 dollars every year would really make a difference in your yearly grocery purchases, no doubt
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glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

ClockworkHare posted...

You just can't buy booze, cigarettes, etc with it.

I used to see people buy a cart full of groceries on food stamps, then pull out a wad of cash for cigarettes, beer, or lottery tickets. This was ~10 years ago when I worked at a convenience store.

Shit always pissed me off. They clearly have money to spend, but why use it when you can just game the system?

clearaflagrantj posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

He actually said he would rather that 36 dollars a year go in his pantry as opposed to a family that needs it, lol. He thinks the myth of the "welfare queen" is real
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Vertania posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

You just can't buy booze, cigarettes, etc with it.

I used to see people buy a cart full of groceries on food stamps, then pull out a wad of cash for cigarettes, beer, or lottery tickets. This was ~10 years ago when I worked at a convenience store.

Shit always pissed me off. They clearly have money to spend, but why use it when you can just game the system?

Oh, anecdotal evidence about a person you saw

That's it, let's ditch welfare!
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Vertania posted...

I used to see people buy a cart full of groceries on food stamps, then pull out a wad of cash for cigarettes, beer, or lottery tickets. This was ~10 years ago when I worked at a convenience store.

s*** always pissed me off. They clearly have money to spend, but why use it when you can just game the system?

you realize that those people had children and the system was making sure their shitty, idiotic parents actually bought food for them rather than exclusively alcohol and drugs, right?

the system would cost hundreds of times more to rehome them
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YourAlt posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

He actually said he would rather that 36 dollars a year go in his pantry as opposed to a family that needs it, lol. He thinks the myth of the "welfare queen" is real

I NEED it. Did you guys not read my post at all?
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glitteringfairy posted...

YourAlt posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

He actually said he would rather that 36 dollars a year go in his pantry as opposed to a family that needs it, lol. He thinks the myth of the "welfare queen" is real

I NEED it. Did you guys not read my post at all?

So that 36 dollars saved a year would aid your situation? Lol ok
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YourAlt posted...

Oh, anecdotal evidence about a person you saw

That's it, let's ditch welfare!

Not one person, multiple people. We had regular customers who would pull that shit all the time. But okay, let's just stay in your little fantasy land where absolutely everybody who gets food stamps uses it responsibly and literally nobody abuses it.

If you actually read my other posts, I never said anything about ditching it. I would just like to see more effort put into limiting the benefits and reducing abuse.

YourAlt posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

YourAlt posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

He actually said he would rather that 36 dollars a year go in his pantry as opposed to a family that needs it, lol. He thinks the myth of the "welfare queen" is real

I NEED it. Did you guys not read my post at all?

So that 36 dollars saved a year would aid your situation? Lol ok

Please, tell me more about my life and situation. You seem to know me so well
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Some users on this board are on social assistance and buy dolls with the money
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Vertania posted...

YourAlt posted...

Oh, anecdotal evidence about a person you saw

That's it, let's ditch welfare!

Not one person, multiple people. We had regular customers who would pull that shit all the time. But okay, let's just stay in your little fantasy land where absolutely everybody who gets food stamps uses it responsibly and literally nobody abuses it.

If you actually read my other posts, I never said anything about ditching it. I would just like to see more effort put into limiting the benefits and reducing abuse.

I didn't say nobody abuses it. But at an average cost of 36 dollars per year out of my tax dollars, I don't care too much. Happy to pay that to help many families that need it, and the people who don't, what ever. Not much skin off my back, and I hope the government catches them and ends their fraudulent benefits. But I am not against the system because a marginal amount of people use it for fraud.
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Lack of empathy.
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Darkman124 posted...

you realize that those people had children and the system was making sure their shitty, idiotic parents actually bought food for them rather than exclusively alcohol and drugs, right?

the system would cost hundreds of times more to rehome them

Rehome their kids? You really have to jump to that extreme to defend EBT abuse?

You know what other program helps provide food for kids? WIC. The one I already mentioned.

clearaflagrantj posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

I'd prefer to live in a world where "help" didn't mean being given shit for nothing but rather be being taught how to care for and provide for yourself. Kind of the same reason I wouldn't do someone's homework for them: we all have difficulties, but we're supposed to be trying to get this right, not endless cry for help from others to avoid doing the work ourselves.

Don't chew me out. I don't think there's shame in needing social assistance. I think there's shame in not seriously trying to get / stay off it, and keeping junk or luxury foods out of it is a decent incentive to ensure a job is a better option.

Edit: I also don't care if I can afford it. I refuse to care for someone that isn't trying to care for themselves. I've got cousins like this: jobless, in their 30s, living with or off their parents, and likely to stay that way for life because no one wants to be the heavy and make them do things to help get a job like get up before noon and stop drinking and smoking weed to excess.
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glitteringfairy posted...

YourAlt posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

YourAlt posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

If I want to donate to charity that's my business. I work hard for my money and so does my gf. I am by no means well off. I could use that $36 to put food into my own refrigerator

I'd prefer to live in a society where people help each other unconditionally instead of living by "fuck you I got mine"

He actually said he would rather that 36 dollars a year go in his pantry as opposed to a family that needs it, lol. He thinks the myth of the "welfare queen" is real

I NEED it. Did you guys not read my post at all?

So that 36 dollars saved a year would aid your situation? Lol ok

Please, tell me more about my life and situation. You seem to know me so well

I know you would have to,be destitute if 36 dollars a year would make a difference in your life. You probably shouldn't be wasting your meager funds on internet or Wi-Fi, tbh
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SomeGuyUO posted...

Only want nasty food to be eligible for food stamps.

What's "nasty food"? Last I checked only person that was restricting what foods you could get on food stamps was Michelle Obama cause she wants America to be "healthier", when America should choose the right foods to be "healthier". Instead of her being a dictator.
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Some people are just shitty people. That's in response to the topic title.
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Work for your food. That's what we used to do. If you can't afford to eat, you just don't. Theres always a way to get money to eat. Too many people game the system.

Vertania posted...

Rehome their kids? You really have to jump to that extreme to defend EBT abuse?

You know what other program helps provide food for kids? WIC. The one I already mentioned.

you understand that WIC has significant restrictions, yeah? the point here is most beneficiaries of SNAP are already families with children, and what youve been observing is not going to stop if SNAP died out--it'd just happen WITHOUT the people buying food.

k darkfire posted...

Theres always a way to get money to eat.

notably, killing people who have food and taking theirs
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k darkfire posted...

Work for your food. That's what we used to do. If you can't afford to eat, you just don't. Theres always a way to get money to eat. Too many people game the system.

Reminder, this guy would love for black people to starve and is just using a cover story as an excuse.
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