Current Events > Name ONE person who caused more damage to the industry than Bobby Kotick

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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 9:43:34 PM
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Protip: You can't

Kotick introduced a bunch of corporate suits into vidya industry. While 90s had EA and Eidos rampant idiocy, Kotick basically "invented" all the crap that is cancer of vidya nowdays or at least laid fundation for it. The fact he and his guys had experience in packaged goods before going into vidya industry only makes it worse, because we are not talking about corporate suits that had experience in entertainment, electronics or anything like that. Nope, a bunch of high-end warehouse clerks started to run the business.

And all they've cared about was that the package they are selling will make maximum profit at absolutely no risk, without knowing jack shit about the whole industry, audiences or gaming in general.

Also, his actions are responsible for massive consolidations, buyouts and turning the industry into few monster-size mega companies with series of mergers and after that indie devs, with absolutely nothing in-between.

Imagine your grandmother suddenly being made a CEO of any given vidya company and entrusted full power over the products they make. That's about what Kotick did on a massive scale.
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PonyLivesMatter
08/09/17 9:44:54 PM
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What did he do?
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 9:46:50 PM
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PonyLivesMatter posted...
What did he do?

How about reading my post to find out?
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Jet_Enduro101
08/09/17 9:52:14 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
What did he do?

How about reading my post to find out?

I think he was asking for specific business practices he implemented. Your post doesn't really offer any detail other than "did is at fault for all the things we dislike." which could be many different things to many different people.
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gafemaqs
08/09/17 9:52:58 PM
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PonyLivesMatter posted...
What did he do?
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D-Lo_BrownTown
08/09/17 9:54:46 PM
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Back_Stabbath
08/09/17 9:55:19 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
What did he do?

How about reading my post to find out?

he's asking specifically what kotick did, besides being the demon head of actiblizz (which is doing ok these days).
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Damn_Underscore
08/09/17 9:56:35 PM
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Bernie Stolar

He is the main reason why the Sega Saturn failed in America. Even though the Dreamcast was great, it was too late. And now Sega is nothing compared to what it once was.
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 10:28:42 PM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
What did he do?

How about reading my post to find out?

he's asking specifically what kotick did, besides being the demon head of actiblizz (which is doing ok these days).

He literally acquired franchises and then raped them to death until they were unsustainable due to market saturation as a fucking business model

Games published by activision were designed to create huge pre-order numbers and then decimate their own userbase by splitting the community up as much as possible while milking them for as much as possible at every stage to ensure as few people as possible would stick around with the preceding game upon the release of its sequel.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
08/09/17 10:30:31 PM
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Whoever came up with the idea for the Wii fucked things up pretty good for many years there.

Microsoft is still hurting from their motion control gamble.
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3rd_Best_Master
08/09/17 10:31:04 PM
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Most of that shit wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of shit demographic and could practice some impulse control.
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Sputnik1337
08/09/17 10:33:00 PM
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...so Kotick is the devil because the rhythm game fad died and no one plays Guitar Hero anymore?
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 10:33:25 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
Most of that shit wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of shit demographic and could practice some impulse control.

No, it's not the fault of the consumers it's the fault of the publishers for putting out that garbage and expecting consumers to just eat it up without question
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D-Lo_BrownTown
08/09/17 10:33:57 PM
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wait, is this about them releasing a ton of guitar hero games?

lmfao
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 10:34:22 PM
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Sputnik1337 posted...
...so Kotick is the devil because the rhythm game fad died and no one plays Guitar Hero anymore?

Is this bait? I legitamely can't tell
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Kaname_Madoka
08/09/17 10:34:54 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
literally calling it "vidya"

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BootyGif
08/09/17 10:35:14 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Kotick introduced a bunch of corporate suits into vidya industry

this would have happened regardless of kotick, he just realized it and made sure he was the one controlling the interest.
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3rd_Best_Master
08/09/17 10:35:22 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Most of that s*** wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of s*** demographic and could practice some impulse control.

No, it's not the fault of the consumers it's the fault of the publishers for putting out that garbage and expecting consumers to just eat it up without question

And they did anyways. So the predatory business practices continued cause gamers can just never say "no" to buying a game regardless of the controversy surrounding it.
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Gojak_v3
08/09/17 10:36:27 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Most of that shit wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of shit demographic and could practice some impulse control.

No, it's not the fault of the consumers it's the fault of the publishers for putting out that garbage and expecting consumers to just eat it up without question


/facepalm
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Bio1590
08/09/17 10:42:45 PM
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Oh look another condescending ZP topic
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 10:45:47 PM
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BootyGif posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Kotick introduced a bunch of corporate suits into vidya industry

this would have happened regardless of kotick, he just realized it and made sure he was the one controlling the interest.

But at least they'd have SOME knowledge of the industry, the cancerous mega corporation mentality in big publishers today stems from Kotick, before him everyone running game companies had experience with the industry in some way, but Kotick was just some CEO from some packaged goods company who took over Activision and spread the message that these companies were ripe for rhe picking for his buddies in the packaged goods industry now today most if not all big publishers are headed by some suit with zero real knowledge of the industry and it showals
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 10:53:51 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Most of that s*** wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of s*** demographic and could practice some impulse control.

No, it's not the fault of the consumers it's the fault of the publishers for putting out that garbage and expecting consumers to just eat it up without question

And they did anyways. So the predatory business practices continued cause gamers can just never say "no" to buying a game regardless of the controversy surrounding it.

Sorry but consumers are never reponsible to take the blame for suits being avaricious
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3rd_Best_Master
08/09/17 10:58:28 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Most of that s*** wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of s*** demographic and could practice some impulse control.

No, it's not the fault of the consumers it's the fault of the publishers for putting out that garbage and expecting consumers to just eat it up without question

And they did anyways. So the predatory business practices continued cause gamers can just never say "no" to buying a game regardless of the controversy surrounding it.

Sorry but consumers are never reponsible to take the blame for suits being avaricious

Bobby Kotick held them all at gun point and forced each and every single one of them to purchase every single iteration of Guitar Hero. He's more nefarious than anyone could have possibly imagined.
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ZombiePelican
08/09/17 11:03:05 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Most of that s*** wouldn't have ever happened if gamers weren't a piece of s*** demographic and could practice some impulse control.

No, it's not the fault of the consumers it's the fault of the publishers for putting out that garbage and expecting consumers to just eat it up without question

And they did anyways. So the predatory business practices continued cause gamers can just never say "no" to buying a game regardless of the controversy surrounding it.

Sorry but consumers are never reponsible to take the blame for suits being avaricious

Bobby Kotick held them all at gun point and forced each and every single one of them to purchase every single iteration of Guitar Hero. He's more nefarious than anyone could have possibly imagined.

He didn't HAVE to make it so most licensed games are shit, He didn't HAVE to milk multiple IPs to literal death, He didn't HAVE to gobble up multiple smaller publishers, etc... he CHOSE to because he was greedy.

The side of the consumer is the only side to ever take otherwise you're just a lowly corporate thrall
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3rd_Best_Master
08/09/17 11:07:49 PM
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The consumer didn't have to buy shitty licensed games. The consumer didn't have to every single ip that was milked to death. The consumer also didn't have to purchase the next installments of series that were developed after they were acquired by Activision, thus incentivising them to continue the practice with studio after studio.

But they did and they have nobody to blame but themselves.
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3rd_Best_Master
08/09/17 11:12:19 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
The side of the consumer is the only side to ever take otherwise you're just a lowly corporate thrall

The funny thing is I'm not taking the side of either. Both the consumers and Bobby Kotick receive their own share of the blame for the state of the industry, but Kotick is the only one I really can't be mad at. Unlike the consumers, Bobby Kotick was just looking out for the best interest of him and his shareholders. I can understand the reason why he would pump out soulless iteration after iteration of franchises he's butchered; cause it made him and his shareholders pretty freaking wealthy. What I can't understand is why you, ZP, would sit there and acknowledge tm how harmful those businesses practices are for the consumers and defend your right to fuck yourself over by buying the games anyways.
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Darmik
08/09/17 11:30:15 PM
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Tbh it's probably someone we've never even heard of that just decides stuff with other execs in a board room.
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ZombiePelican
08/10/17 12:06:34 AM
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Darmik posted...
Tbh it's probably someone we've never even heard of that just decides stuff with other execs in a board room.

Am I being baited?
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