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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:17:19 PM
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MINOR SPOILER FROM MOST RECENT EPISODE

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http://deadspin.com/heres-noah-syndergaards-cameo-on-game-of-thrones-1797591010

Couple of things that make this work

1.) You're pretty unlikely to notice.
2.) If you DO notice, it doesn't alter the scene. It doesn't take you out of it.
3.) He's there for literally one second.
4.) He isn't shoved in your face for an entire scene.

That's why people hated the Ed Sheeran cameo. If Ed Sheeran was just hurling a spear, nobody would bat an eye. But when you make him the god damn centerpoint of a scene, complete with singing and more-than-enough camera time, people are going to get upset.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/08/17 2:20:36 PM
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Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is. It is only natural Ed Sheeran would get more screen time.
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:20:59 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is.

Source?
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Kaname_Madoka
08/08/17 2:21:39 PM
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>Ed Sheeran

Who?
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Romulox28
08/08/17 2:22:47 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is.

Source?

common sense lol
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:23:14 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is.

Source?

common sense lol

How so?
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hockeybub89
08/08/17 2:26:38 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is.

Source?

You need a source that more people know a popular singer than a Mets pitcher? People barely recognize baseball players in the US, let alone worldwide.
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Romulox28
08/08/17 2:26:46 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Romulox28 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is.

Source?

common sense lol

How so?

do you not think that an international pop star is not more recognizable to more people than an American baseball player? syndergaard is not even an athlete that is popular to people outside of fans of the sport (like Derek Jeter / LeBron James / Tom Brady / etc)
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:31:49 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people don't know who the fuck Noah Syndergaard is.

Most people know who Ed Sheeran is.

Source?

You need a source that more people know a popular singer than a Mets pitcher? People barely recognize baseball players in the US, let alone worldwide.

I need a source when someone bakes a baseless accusation and/or oversimplified generalization.

Example:

hockeybub89 posted...
People barely recognize baseball players in the US


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Romulox28 posted...
do you not think that an international pop star is not more recognizable to more people than an American baseball player? syndergaard is not even an athlete that is popular to people outside of fans of the sport (like Derek Jeter / LeBron James / Tom Brady / etc)

I like baseball and I knew who Noah Syndergaard was before his cameo.

I don't listen to much music and I did not know who Ed Sheeran was before his cameo. I can't name one of his songs without google.

Source: Me

I just debunked your entire thesis.
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Sada_Pop
08/08/17 2:35:15 PM
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I mean you're not going to get a source on it. It's like asking if more people around the world know who Taylor Swift is over Draymond Green.
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:36:29 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
I mean you're not going to get a source on it. It's like asking if more people around the world know who Taylor Swift is over Draymond Green.

Without a sample size, it's just a baseless statement.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/08/17 2:39:29 PM
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TC has become the equivalent of a little kid plugging his ears and saying "I know you are but what am I?"
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:41:23 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
TC has become the equivalent of a little kid plugging his ears and saying "I know you are but what am I?"

>Responds appropriately to a baseless claim
>Called a troll

BREAKING: CE logic, more at 11
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Romulox28
08/08/17 2:43:19 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Sada_Pop posted...
I mean you're not going to get a source on it. It's like asking if more people around the world know who Taylor Swift is over Draymond Green.

Without a sample size, it's just a baseless statement.

well obviously there isnt some kind of quantifiable metric you can use to measure fame

however, you can go on ed sheeran's wikipedia page and read about his life from 2012 to now, you'll read about how he opened for taylor swift, sold millions of albums, topped billboard charts nonstop in multiple countries, had his music appear in movies, won multiple grammies, etc

then you look up Syndergaard and he is a guy who's been in the MLB (a sports league that is only popular in the US) for two years and had a good season last year.

so using basic reasoning here we can assume that sheeran has a little bit of a wider audience than a mets pitcher lol
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:44:41 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Sada_Pop posted...
I mean you're not going to get a source on it. It's like asking if more people around the world know who Taylor Swift is over Draymond Green.

Without a sample size, it's just a baseless statement.

well obviously there isnt some kind of quantifiable metric you can use to measure fame

however, you can go on ed sheeran's wikipedia page and read about his life from 2012 to now, you'll read about how he opened for taylor swift, sold millions of albums, topped billboard charts nonstop in multiple countries, had his music appear in movies, won multiple grammies, etc

then you look up Syndergaard and he is a guy who's been in the MLB (a sports league that is only popular in the US) for two years and had a good season last year.

so using basic reasoning here we can assume that sheeran has a little bit of a wider audience than a mets pitcher lol

By that logic, why isn't Donald J Trump just talking to himself in a commentary corner window throughout every single episode?
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Mernardi
08/08/17 2:45:38 PM
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Literally who is Ed Sheeran?
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J E S U S
08/08/17 2:46:01 PM
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I had no idea who ed Sheehan was
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 2:46:22 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
TC has become the equivalent of a little kid plugging his ears and saying "I know you are but what am I?"


This is true...

If you honestly think people have a better chance of knowing some pitcher from a baseball team over a popular singer known throughout the UK/US (i hesitate to say worldwide) then you need a reality check.

You shouldn't need a source for such a thing, you would have to be a troll or someone reveling in their ignorance to claim such a thing.

P.S. I only know who Ed Sheeran is because he made an appearance in GoT and apparently it was a big deal.
I have no idea who this other guy you are mentioning is other then he is a pitcher
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thompsontalker7
08/08/17 2:47:34 PM
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Never understood all this buttrage at the cameo. People act like he was made into a story-crucial character or something.
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I Like Toast
08/08/17 2:48:08 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...

By that logic, why isn't Donald J Trump just talking to himself in a commentary corner window throughout every single episode

Logic wasn't used once in the quoted post
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 2:49:14 PM
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Maybe the TC just isn't very intelligent and lacks common sense? That would be the only explanation for his ignorance.
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:50:12 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
You shouldn't need a source for such a thing, you would have to be a troll or someone reveling in their ignorance to claim such a thing.

This is what people who use the bible as a source to prove god exists say
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 2:51:41 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
You shouldn't need a source for such a thing, you would have to be a troll or someone reveling in their ignorance to claim such a thing.

This is what people who use the bible as a source to prove god exists say

As far as TC is concerned Faith = common sense
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 2:52:16 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
You shouldn't need a source for such a thing, you would have to be a troll or someone reveling in their ignorance to claim such a thing.

This is what people who use the bible as a source to prove god exists say

As far as TC is concerned Faith = common sense

As far as I'm concerned, I want to see something before blindly believing whatever is shoved down my throat
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ZombiePelican
08/08/17 2:52:21 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people know who Ed Sheeran is. It is only natural Ed Sheeran would get more screen time.

Had no idea who he was before this whole kerfuffle started
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thompsontalker7
08/08/17 2:54:56 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people know who Ed Sheeran is. It is only natural Ed Sheeran would get more screen time.

Had no idea who he was before this whole kerfuffle started


You never heard Thinking Out Loud or Shape of You anywhere in the last few years? I highly doubt that
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 2:55:40 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
As far as I'm concerned, I want to see something before blindly believing whatever is shoved down my throat

I am sorry you are unable to comprehend the difference between the fame of a random US baseball pitcher vs a internationally known singer.

Best of luck to you, your life must be hard.
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salandrews
08/08/17 2:56:23 PM
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I think the cameo scene itself want bad. About time we met some soldiers who aren't mean or evil.
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ZombiePelican
08/08/17 2:57:58 PM
#30:


thompsontalker7 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people know who Ed Sheeran is. It is only natural Ed Sheeran would get more screen time.

Had no idea who he was before this whole kerfuffle started


You never heard Thinking Out Loud or Shape of You anywhere in the last few years? I highly doubt that

I don't listen to pop, hang around people that listen to pop, or listen to Top 40 radio.

I'm into underground metal and punk
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thompsontalker7
08/08/17 2:59:21 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people know who Ed Sheeran is. It is only natural Ed Sheeran would get more screen time.

Had no idea who he was before this whole kerfuffle started


You never heard Thinking Out Loud or Shape of You anywhere in the last few years? I highly doubt that

I don't listen to pop, hang around people that listen to pop, or listen to Top 40 radio.

I'm into underground metal and punk


Well I figured as much, but if you went out in public anywhere it was all over the place this year and last.

I didn't really have much reason to like him either, but he's a legit good singer and decent rapper
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Broseph_Stalin
08/08/17 3:00:10 PM
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Most of you are well into your 20s its time to stop thinking being a weird hermit makes you cool.
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Ilishe
08/08/17 3:01:53 PM
#33:


People actually never heard of Ed Sheeran?

Mindblowing. Or maybe not...a lot of the users here live under rocks.
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 3:03:01 PM
#34:


Ilishe posted...
People actually never heard of Ed Sheeran?

Mindblowing. Or maybe not...a lot of the users here live under rocks.

I am sure I have heard his songs and his name in passing before the GoT cameo, but I had no idea that he was some famous singer until I saw the outrage.
But just because I might have heard his songs in passing before doesn't mean I knew the title or connected said songs to Ed Sheeran.
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UrCa1988
08/08/17 3:03:14 PM
#35:


Literally the only way you'll have never heard Shape of You is to live in a cave ordering all your living essentials through Amazon and then not answering the door when the deliveryman knocks because you might accidentally hear it coming out of the speakers of his truck.
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I Like Toast
08/08/17 3:03:40 PM
#36:


ZombiePelican posted...

I don't listen to pop or hang around people


Ftfy
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Mormaurd
08/08/17 3:06:08 PM
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I've probably heard his stuff in stores, but never knew his name since I don't tune in to top 40 or pop radio stations.
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3rd_Best_Master
08/08/17 3:09:39 PM
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Mormaurd posted...
I've probably heard his stuff in stores, but never knew his name since I don't tune in to top 40 or pop radio stations.

This
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NeoShadowhen
08/08/17 3:10:45 PM
#39:


ZombiePelican posted...
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Most people know who Ed Sheeran is. It is only natural Ed Sheeran would get more screen time.

Had no idea who he was before this whole kerfuffle started


You're just trying to sound cool!!
I'm not less cool because I know who he is!!!
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 3:14:22 PM
#40:


0rN26ng

dsz0hZu

Sports: 60.5b in 2014. ONLY NORTH AMERICA.

Music: 15b in 2014. GLOBALLY.

So, since 15 is basically 1/4th of 60.5, let's look at it this way. For every one person who is a "music fan" (a.k.a a casual listener - recognizes big names and songs but isn't an expert by any means), there are four "sports fans" (a.k.a a casual observer - recognizes big names and teams but isn't an expert by any means).

Now, one thing you people seem to be forgetting is this - Noah Syndergaard is not just "some pitcher." His blonde flowing hair has earned him the nickname, "Thor." He is a personality in the baseball world and is located in the second-biggest baseball market in the country (I assume LA is first).

I just asked six of my co-workers (ages 24, 25, 25, 31, 42, 44) who Noah Syndergaard was. Two responses of "Mets pitcher," one response of "MLB pitcher," and one response of "baseball player, right?" Other two had no idea.

I also asked them about Ed Sheeran. Three knew he did music, three did not know the name. But the important thing to note is that nobody specifically knew his niche or genre, whereas two of them knew exactly the position and team of Syndergaard.

I understand that a website called "GameFAQs" does not necessarily reflect a crowd of people who are adept at sports. It's not that farfetch'd to assume that many of the people here hear "sports" and zone out because it's foreign to them. Secondly, music and gaming go hand in hand these days, what with people grinding in MMOs and whatnot. So you have to take that bias into account.

Finally, the last multiplier is the screen time. Ed Sheeran was the centerpiece of a 3 minute scene. Syndergaard was in there for one second (and that's being generous, it was more like 0.75 seconds).

So, with those multipliers, it is very safe to say that Syndergaard had a much more reasonable cameo than Ed Sheeran did.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/08/17 3:16:47 PM
#41:


lmao ^
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3rd_Best_Master
08/08/17 3:17:45 PM
#42:


I just don't understand how any of you people can take this shit this seriously.
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 3:19:12 PM
#43:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
lmao ^

3rd_Best_Master posted...
I just don't understand how any of you people can take this shit this seriously.

>Provides legitimate stats and supporting evidence
>Rejects it outright and cries troll
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thompsontalker7
08/08/17 3:19:50 PM
#44:


UrCa1988 posted...
Literally the only way you'll have never heard Shape of You is to live in a cave ordering all your living essentials through Amazon and then not answering the door when the deliveryman knocks because you might accidentally hear it coming out of the speakers of his truck.


Pretty much. Same with Thinking Out Loud. That shit won a Grammy for best song, and you're trying to say you never heard of it?
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KainWind
08/08/17 3:19:58 PM
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Is that even a cameo? I know exactly what he looks like and I never would have noticed him in that scene.
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Dustin1280
08/08/17 3:20:30 PM
#46:


SPORTS industry =/= BASEBALL, more ignorance

As the calendar year nears its end, the league can report that gross revenues for 2016 are approaching an incredible $10 billion.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2016/12/05/mlb-sees-record-revenues-approaching-10-billion-for-2016/#6516fade7088
https://www.statista.com/statistics/193466/total-league-revenue-of-the-mlb-since-2005/

The global recorded music industry grew $1.1 billion in 2016 to reach $16.1 billion—the largest growth its seen in over 15 years.
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/global-recorded-music-industry-reached-16-1bn-2016-7-yoy/
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Ilishe
08/08/17 3:20:30 PM
#47:


What the fuck is baseball anyway
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 3:22:13 PM
#48:


Dustin1280 posted...
SPORTS industry =/= BASEBALL more ignorance

MUSIC industry =/= POP music more ignorance
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Mernardi
08/08/17 3:23:03 PM
#49:


Ilishe posted...
What the fuck is baseball anyway

Idk. Never heard of it.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/08/17 3:23:27 PM
#50:


Muffinz0rz posted...
>Provides legitimate stats and supporting evidence

Muffinz0rz posted...
Now, one thing you people seem to be forgetting is this - Noah Syndergaard is not just "some pitcher." His blonde flowing hair has earned him the nickname, "Thor."

Muffinz0rz posted...
I just asked six of my co-workers (ages 24, 25, 25, 31, 42, 44) who Noah Syndergaard was
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/17 3:26:00 PM
#51:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
>Provides legitimate stats and supporting evidence

Muffinz0rz posted...
Now, one thing you people seem to be forgetting is this - Noah Syndergaard is not just "some pitcher." His blonde flowing hair has earned him the nickname, "Thor."

Muffinz0rz posted...
I just asked six of my co-workers (ages 24, 25, 25, 31, 42, 44) who Noah Syndergaard was

And?
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