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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:07:24 AM
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Joe Rogan
Sam Harris
Jordan Peterson
Ben Shapiro
Dave Rubin


Let's make a list.
I think Colbert is the most popular Political Commentator in America atm
and the dude talks like he is completely brain-dead
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averagejoel
08/07/17 8:11:01 AM
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Matt Bruenig
Felix Beiderman
Chelsea Manning

*reads op*

ah, a troll topic

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foreveraIone
08/07/17 8:11:39 AM
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Oh god they all suck
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:19:30 AM
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averagejoel posted...
Matt Bruenig
Felix Beiderman
Chelsea Manning


what the fuck....
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Vicious_Dios
08/07/17 8:23:30 AM
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Comedy Central Stephen Colbert
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averagejoel
08/07/17 8:24:10 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Matt Bruenig
Felix Beiderman
Chelsea Manning


what the fuck....

I said the same thing when I read your list
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:26:45 AM
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averagejoel posted...
I said the same thing when I read your list


why's that?
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averagejoel
08/07/17 8:32:29 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
I said the same thing when I read your list


why's that?

Because Joe Rogan is a dumbass, Sam Harris is a white supremacist, Jordan Peterson (assuming you're talking about the University of Toronto prof) makes like $30 000 a month for refusing to learn new words, and Ben Shapiro got his start with Breitbart

not sure who the last guy is, but I'm guessing he's in a similar vein
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TheoryzC
08/07/17 8:36:32 AM
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Joe Rogan? Lol c'mon, son
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Doom_Art
08/07/17 8:38:33 AM
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What an absolutely awful list.


Do you just not like Colbert because him saying bad things about Trump hurts your fee fees?
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Lonestar2000
08/07/17 8:40:19 AM
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Why dies Colbert make you so butthurt TC?
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:41:24 AM
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averagejoel posted...
Sam Harris is a white supremacist


what?

averagejoel posted...
not sure who the last guy is, but I'm guessing he's in a similar vein


He's an ex-Young Turk
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:41:55 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
Joe Rogan? Lol c'mon, son


Joe Rogan is dope. Best podcaster/interviewer in the game
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HypnoCoosh
08/07/17 8:42:21 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
Ben Shapiro


Literally owns anyone who even tries to debate him.
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Doom_Art
08/07/17 8:43:21 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
Joe Rogan is dope. Best podcaster/interviewer in the game

Teenagers, libertarians, and potheads like Rogan,

which is fine.

He's a mediocre interviewer at best though
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:43:21 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
What an absolutely awful list.


Do you just not like Colbert because him saying bad things about Trump hurts your fee fees?


No, I don't like him because he's stupid. Like he makes no real commentary, his only purpose is for liberals to completely shut off their brains and listen to him call the guy they hate a cheeto for 80 millionth time
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HypnoCoosh
08/07/17 8:44:54 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Why dies Colbert make you so butthurt TC?


Because him and John Oliver and Trevor Noah all have the same shitty shitck i.e. make juvenile and poor taste Trump insults for 90% of their show. No substance.
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Doom_Art
08/07/17 8:46:24 AM
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Do you actually watch Colbert, Oliver, and Trevor Noah TC?

Actually I won't defend Noah. I don't find him funny.

Anyway, back to my point, have you actually watched any of their shows for an extended length of time?
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TheoryzC
08/07/17 8:49:45 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
TheoryzC posted...
Joe Rogan? Lol c'mon, son


Joe Rogan is dope. Best podcaster/interviewer in the game

I mean agree but that doesn't make his a good political commentator. He'll tell you himself that he doesn't know shit and he has people on that are a trillion times better
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:53:42 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Do you actually watch Colbert, Oliver, and Trevor Noah TC?

Actually I won't defend Noah. I don't find him funny.

Anyway, back to my point, have you actually watched any of their shows for an extended length of time?


Yes, I watch almost every Colbert episode, and watch Trevor Noah occasionally.
I find it funny you don't find Noah funny when Colbert and Noah use the exact same jokes (and I can point to examples, but you can just look to episodes of theirs that fall on the same day)

I actually don't hate Noah, it may be the accent, but he doesn't come off as pathetic and moronic as Colbert.


I almost never watch John Oliver, but I dislike him as well (for different reasons than Colbert)
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Milkman5
08/07/17 8:56:15 AM
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TheoryzC posted...

I mean agree but that doesn't make his a good political commentator. He'll tell you himself that he doesn't know s*** and he has people on that are a trillion times better


Yeah, and I like that about him. That's he's upfront with what he is and what he knows.
Meanwhile Colbert comes off as dumber than Joe Rogan, yet likes the smell of his own shit way too much.

Same reason I like Bill Burr. Says what he knows and what he doesn't and makes an observation based on that
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Doom_Art
08/07/17 8:56:32 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
Yes, I watch almost every Colbert episode

Okay then I'm wondering why you're accusing him of that when as someone who watches every episode it should be clear he does other shit besides shit talk Trump.

Milkman5 posted...
I almost never watch John Oliver, but I dislike him as well (for different reasons than Colbert)

Why?
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Milkman5
08/07/17 9:07:27 AM
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Doom_Art posted...

Why?


I feel like a lot of what he says on his show is more him looking for an some observation to make a piece around than him making a genuine observation.
He had this bit where he was like "Why is this still a thing?"
and it became obvious fast that Oliver and his writers were actively seeking for things to put in the program and not making the program because they didn't understand why they were still a thing.
And as a result, his segment on it would just be moronic. Like he asked why pageants were still a thing (because people want to do them?) or why Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition was a thing when porn exists (as if people don't enjoy deeding to that stuff or that Kate Upton would appear in porn? Like what the fuck is he even saying here)?

Then I feel like he intentionally does possibly ethically bankrupt things,
where he only says things to further a political goal and not that the things he says are right, but that the outcome of his propaganda will be right.

Where he actively lied about Jill Stein and also tried to shame voters from Gary Johnson because his intention was to steer votes towards Hillary.

Then the whole refugee crisis thing where he went on and on about how there is no potential security risks and we all know John Oliver doesn't believe that....
Or how he tried to convince American Audiences Brexit was the worst thing ever, just because he said so... like that whole piece was just non-nonsensical.


Then the other issue I have is that he's not even American and he lectures Americans how they are idiots when it comes to American politics. It would be pretty absurd if I moved to Australia for example, and tried to claim that they are all morons and I know more about their country and their politics than the people who live there, but I suppose this could be applied to any foreign political commentator

and then you might say, well why don't I apply that to Trevor Noah


which I can explain, but it's not that convincing. Mostly the nature of how Noah got the job in the first place makes me feel like it's not important who is was or where he was from.
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Milkman5
08/07/17 9:11:15 AM
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Also John Oliver is one of those guys who uses that comedian cop-out shit.

Where he spouts out his ideals, but when challenged he says he's just a comedian even though the majority of his audience, which is millions, hears about the stuff he talks about for the first time (from him)
Like, he is a used as a real news source and he doesn't want to accept or acknowledge that

and he uses this as a shield to criticize other journalists while retaining that he can't be criticized because he makes the rules basically.
idk, it's just stupid. I can go more in depth on why this is stupid, but you get the idea.
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averagejoel
08/07/17 9:53:23 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Sam Harris is a white supremacist


what?

Sam Harris is the islamophobic atheist dude, right? I might have mixed up names, but if it's who I'm thinking of then yeah, he's absolutely a white supremacist
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foreveraIone
08/07/17 9:54:56 AM
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averagejoel posted...
Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Sam Harris is a white supremacist


what?

Sam Harris is the islamophobic atheist dude, right? I might have mixed up names, but if it's who I'm thinking of then yeah, he's absolutely a white supremacist

Explain it before just accusing it.
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averagejoel
08/07/17 10:00:31 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
averagejoel posted...
Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Sam Harris is a white supremacist


what?

Sam Harris is the islamophobic atheist dude, right? I might have mixed up names, but if it's who I'm thinking of then yeah, he's absolutely a white supremacist

Explain it before just accusing it.

this article gives a pretty good overview and cites its sources

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/fullimage/decf4548-bf61-4c5a-b638-967f4239eec7/fedd0656-f463-4fa4-bd3d-f8c9dad7018d
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Darkman124
08/07/17 10:01:44 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
criticize other journalists


alex jones is not a journalist
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foreveraIone
08/07/17 10:04:56 AM
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averagejoel posted...
foreveraIone posted...
averagejoel posted...
Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Sam Harris is a white supremacist


what?

Sam Harris is the islamophobic atheist dude, right? I might have mixed up names, but if it's who I'm thinking of then yeah, he's absolutely a white supremacist

Explain it before just accusing it.

this article gives a pretty good overview and cites its sources

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/fullimage/decf4548-bf61-4c5a-b638-967f4239eec7/fedd0656-f463-4fa4-bd3d-f8c9dad7018d

Thats a picture not an article.

I remember he had a conversation with that Bell Curve guy. Did he say something bad there?
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averagejoel
08/07/17 10:10:19 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreveraIone posted...
averagejoel posted...
Milkman5 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Sam Harris is a white supremacist


what?

Sam Harris is the islamophobic atheist dude, right? I might have mixed up names, but if it's who I'm thinking of then yeah, he's absolutely a white supremacist

Explain it before just accusing it.

this article gives a pretty good overview and cites its sources

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/fullimage/decf4548-bf61-4c5a-b638-967f4239eec7/fedd0656-f463-4fa4-bd3d-f8c9dad7018d

Thats a picture not an article.

oops. I'm on my phone and it's hard to copy/paste things
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.alaraby.co.uk/english/amp/comment/2017/7/12/new-atheisms-move-from-islamophobia-to-white-nationalism
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averagejoel
08/07/17 10:15:00 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
I remember he had a conversation with that Bell Curve guy. Did he say something bad there?

well for one, he accepted that debunked racist drivel as fact
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Milkman5
08/07/17 2:31:14 PM
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how much of a deluded leftist drone do you have to be to think Sam Harris is a white nationalist.

You read some shitty article that called him one so you beleive it? lmao
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Milkman5
08/07/17 2:35:02 PM
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damn, that article is rich. It implies Dave Rubin is a white nationalist because he invited Tomi Lahren on his show.
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 2:35:33 PM
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Even Stephen Crowder is funnier than Colbert nowadays
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Smashingpmkns
08/07/17 2:42:17 PM
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The only person I can stand on your list is Sam Harris. Dunno how people think he's a white supremacist. He's basically a Bill Maher liberal. Maybe because he's not a fan of Islam.
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Milkman5
08/07/17 2:49:53 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
So basically only commentators TC agrees with are "good commentators."

What a stunning revelation.


the people I listed don't even believe in the same things, how could I possibly agree with all of them?
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 2:50:04 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
The only person I can stand on your list is Sam Harris. Dunno how people think he's a white supremacist. He's basically a Bill Maher liberal. Maybe because he's not a fan of Islam.

Yep. Any criticism of Islam makes you a white supremacist to these people.

Perhaps they should stop listening to terrorist sympathizers like Linda Sarsour.
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Milkman5
08/07/17 2:53:14 PM
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They think he's a white nationalist because he's Atheist

the whole article is about how Atheists are White Nationalists because they don't like Islam


the left is super committed to this Islamophobia shit

but in defense of liberals, that news site is called the "new arab" and 50% of the articles on its frontpage are about Israel and how it's a plague on this earth lmao

so I wouldn't use that a serious representation of liberal opinions
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Smashingpmkns
08/07/17 4:04:04 PM
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Dunno I'm an ultra bleeding heart liberal atheist and I think all religions are dumb as shit. Islam included. Don't think the average person of faith should be treated different than any other though
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Antifar
08/07/17 4:06:31 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Matt Bruenig
Felix Beiderman
Chelsea Manning

*reads op*

ah, a troll topic

*leaves*

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Antifar
08/07/17 4:07:39 PM
#44:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Even Stephen Crowder is funnier than Colbert nowadays

Stephen Crowder is very funny, but not on purpose
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CruelBuffalo
08/07/17 4:08:47 PM
#45:


Milkman5 posted...
TheoryzC posted...
Joe Rogan? Lol c'mon, son


Joe Rogan is dope. Best podcaster/interviewer in the game

If you take political opinions from joe rogan you are incredibly basic lol
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Questionmarktarius
08/07/17 4:09:02 PM
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Mark Levin.
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ImaAskAQuestion
08/07/17 4:11:24 PM
#47:


Colbert is there for comedy and does it damn well.

My favorite though is Bill Maher. He's a very, very fair liberal who pretty much shares my views in most regards. He even interviews conservatives for serious, face to face talks about their beliefs and while he gets loud sometimes, he typically keeps his cool. I like the guy a lot.

I advise liberals to follow Maher more than any others. Get the non-biased view when he talks side against side, rather than liberals fraternizing with liberals and conservatives "steve bannoning" each other.
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Hexenherz
08/07/17 4:11:39 PM
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Not reading this whole topic but Colbert has writers who write his material, so to call him a "political commentator" is a bit of a stretch.
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--kresnik--
08/07/17 4:12:12 PM
#49:


All of them.
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Milkman5
08/07/17 4:24:02 PM
#50:


Hexenherz posted...
Not reading this whole topic but Colbert has writers who write his material, so to call him a "political commentator" is a bit of a stretch.


that applies to every liberal commentator

Samantha Bee, Noah, Oliver, Colbert, Wilmore etc
all have an extensive team of writers.
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