Current Events > Remember when Milo Yiannopolous said his book flopping was fake news?

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Darmik
08/07/17 2:29:29 AM
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By now, you may have heard reports claiming we only sold 18,000 copies of Dangerous and that our 100,000 copies claim is exaggerated. I’m happy to report that this is fake news

“It’s true that the major booksellers only managed to ship out 18,000 copies to retail customers by the list cutoff. But that’s because they didn’t order enough ahead of time, and have been scrambling to play catchup ever since."

“The real news is that we’ve received wholesale orders and direct orders of such magnitude that our entire stock of 105,000 books is already accounted for.”


Well lets see how he's doing a month later

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/nielsen/HardcoverNonfiction.html
54,656 copies sold

lol. Look at all those book stores scrambling.
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Milo_Yiannopous
08/07/17 2:30:33 AM
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Has anyone here read the book? It's actually pretty good.
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Schwarber
08/07/17 2:31:40 AM
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Yeah, there were a couple people on here saying that.
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LightningAce11
08/07/17 2:31:44 AM
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Milo fell off hard. Good riddance.
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foreveraIone
08/07/17 2:32:33 AM
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Who?
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stevethewindow
08/07/17 2:37:20 AM
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Milo is a twit.

Arrogant and his debate technique was talking about how much black cock he had... stupid silly immature man. Who just talks some statistics
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JE19426
08/07/17 2:39:02 AM
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Milo_Yiannopous posted...
Has anyone here read the book? It's actually pretty good.


Sorry Milo, you're going need to try harder in order to get me to buy your book.
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TheVipaGTS
08/07/17 2:40:02 AM
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how this dumbass ever gained fame i'll never understand. glad his 15 mins are up.
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Milkman5
08/07/17 2:43:45 AM
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doesn't this support what Milo said?

People were reporting his book only sold 18k and only ~150 in the UK


but this is well over that figure and closer to his 100k claim. Isn't it possible all the orders haven't been fulfilled yet?
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Bio1590
08/07/17 2:44:52 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
how this dumbass ever gained fame i'll never understand. glad his 15 mins are up.

He spoon-fed low-intelligence Americans exactly what they wanted to hear. He came to the one country where his bullshit could actually work.
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yusiko
08/07/17 2:45:36 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
how this dumbass ever gained fame i'll never understand. glad his 15 mins are up.



he was a minority for the alt right to hold up as evidence they werent bigoted
see we arent homophobic because this gay guy hates gay people as much as we do
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Bio1590
08/07/17 2:47:36 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
doesn't this support what Milo said?

People were reporting his book only sold 18k and only ~150 in the UK


but this is well over that figure and closer to his 100k claim. Isn't it possible all the orders haven't been fulfilled yet?

He was quoting wholesale ordered copies which is highly misleading because wholesale orders aren't sales, and typically when it comes to books whatever doesn't sell is sent back to the publisher.

Also the original sales figures are from mid-July, the book has been out for over a month now.
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Milkman5
08/07/17 2:48:09 AM
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I think it's more like the left calls everyone who is a cis white hetero male a nazi.

And it's harder to call a woman, a black person, or a gay man a Nazi white nationalist homophobe so people on the right tend to cling to those of the protected classes in the eyes of the left
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Lightsasori
08/07/17 2:49:26 AM
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Even though I agree with a lot what Milo has to say, he's basically the equivalent of an edgelord. He only does certain things to get a reaction and banks on it.

With that said, I think college SJW's need to learn more from this, because Milo wasn't taken down from stopping him speak, he was taken down by allowing his idiotic mouth to talk. So let stupid people speak because eventually it will bite them in the ass.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:02:30 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
doesn't this support what Milo said?

People were reporting his book only sold 18k and only ~150 in the UK


but this is well over that figure and closer to his 100k claim. Isn't it possible all the orders haven't been fulfilled yet?


Those reports were accurate because they were his debut sales. His retort was that he sold 100k to wholesalers and they can't keep up with demand.

And yet a month later he's only sold half of the figure he said he'd already sold. Ironically by bragging about it he's likely admitted he printed too many copies.
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Esrac
08/07/17 3:14:49 AM
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Apparently it was #1 on Amazon and #2 NYT Best non-fiction seller. I guess that counts for something.

Also, there were those videos of people going to Barnes and Noble and other book stores and finding that were sold out. Then when they try to request an order of the book, the clerk tells them the system physically wouldn't let them order more copies and that they'd never seen that happen before. So, I don't know what's up with that.

Milkman5 posted...
I think it's more like the left calls everyone who is a cis white hetero male a nazi.

And it's harder to call a woman, a black person, or a gay man a Nazi white nationalist homophobe so people on the right tend to cling to those of the protected classes in the eyes of the left


I don't know. Milo being a gay Jew didn't stop some people on this forum from calling him a Nazi.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:16:27 AM
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Esrac posted...
Apparently it was #1 on Amazon and #2 NYT Best non-fiction seller. I guess that counts for something.


It was when it sold 18,000. If you aren't overshadowed by another book I don't think it means much to hit that ranking.
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Esrac
08/07/17 3:18:06 AM
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Darmik posted...
Esrac posted...
Apparently it was #1 on Amazon and #2 NYT Best non-fiction seller. I guess that counts for something.


It was when it sold 18,000. If you aren't overshadowed by another book I don't think it means much to hit that ranking.


I don't know how many books you have to sell to hit those milestones. Or if they count physical and digital too.

I'm sure the book is entertaining, but unless they release an audiobook, I doubt I'd buy a copy.
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Crazyman93
08/07/17 3:19:32 AM
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Darmik posted...
lol. Look at all those book stores scrambling.

In all fairness, it's possible that they DID underestimate demand early on, and overcompensated afterwards, resulting in a ton of excess product.
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:20:15 AM
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Not bad for a book that wasn't even sold in stores and not published by any major publisher.
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Bio1590
08/07/17 3:22:04 AM
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NYT is like 9k in the fitst week to hit the list.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:22:06 AM
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Esrac posted...
I don't know how many books you have to sell to hit those milestones.


A book this week made #1 on the non-fiction ranking by selling 12,000
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:23:02 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Not bad for a book that wasn't even sold in stores and not published by any major publisher.


It's pretty bad if they printed over 100k copies.
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Esrac
08/07/17 3:23:48 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
NYT is like 9k in the fitst week to hit the list.


Makes it seem like people aren't buying many books.
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:24:04 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Not bad for a book that wasn't even sold in stores and not published by any major publisher.


It's pretty bad if they printed over 100k copies.

Assuming they never sell them all.
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Bio1590
08/07/17 3:24:09 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Not bad for a book that wasn't even sold in stores and not published by any major publisher.

What? The first part is 100% bullshit.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:25:13 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Not bad for a book that wasn't even sold in stores and not published by any major publisher.


It's pretty bad if they printed over 100k copies.

Assuming they never sell them all.


Well he only sold 6,000k last week and it's just gonna keep going down
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MemeDaddy
08/07/17 3:26:12 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how this dumbass ever gained fame i'll never understand. glad his 15 mins are up.

He spoon-fed low-intelligence Americans exactly what they wanted to hear. He came to the one country where his bullshit could actually work.

100% would have worked in Australia
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:26:17 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Not bad for a book that wasn't even sold in stores and not published by any major publisher.


It's pretty bad if they printed over 100k copies.

Assuming they never sell them all.


Well he only sold 6,000k last week and it's just gonna keep going down

Maybe true, but it was only a few days ago B&N finally decided to order physical copies.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:29:10 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Maybe true, but it was only a few days ago B&N finally decided to order physical copies.


You mean last week?
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Gafemage
08/07/17 3:30:32 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
how this dumbass ever gained fame i'll never understand. glad his 15 mins are up.

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Bio1590
08/07/17 3:30:51 AM
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Yeah B&N only ordered physical copies "a few days ago" meanwhile it's already listed at 35% off the cover price on their website and there is no shipping delay meaning they've had them for more than a few days.
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Crazyman93
08/07/17 3:30:58 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Maybe true, but it was only a few days ago B&N finally decided to order physical copies.


You mean last week?

It's Monday. Last week WAS a few days ago.
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:31:08 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Maybe true, but it was only a few days ago B&N finally decided to order physical copies.


You mean last week?

Which was a few days ago
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:33:02 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Maybe true, but it was only a few days ago B&N finally decided to order physical copies.


You mean last week?

Which was a few days ago


Which would be included in these sales figures then?
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Bio1590
08/07/17 3:34:20 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Yeah B&N only ordered physical copies "a few days ago" meanwhile it's already listed at 35% off the cover price on their website and there is no shipping delay meaning they've had them for more than a few days.

Lmfao just looked at this and B&N has had physical copies the entire time they just had to be purchased online or order to be sent to a store.

There goes Mal lying again.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:35:54 AM
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Oh that's Mal? Because he told me he'd eat crow if it hadn't sold 100k by the end of July.
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Lorenzo_2003
08/07/17 3:44:50 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how this dumbass ever gained fame i'll never understand. glad his 15 mins are up.

He spoon-fed low-intelligence Americans exactly what they wanted to hear. He came to the one country where his bullshit could actually work.


He speaks English and is gay. Do you think he could have given popular speeches in Russia?
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:49:56 AM
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Darmik posted...
Oh that's Mal? Because he told me he'd eat crow if it hadn't sold 100k by the end of July.

Did I not just do that?

He also sold way more than your prediction, IIRC
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cjsdowg
08/07/17 3:50:55 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
I think it's more like the left calls everyone who is a cis white hetero male a nazi.

And it's harder to call a woman, a black person, or a gay man a Nazi white nationalist homophobe so people on the right tend to cling to those of the protected classes in the eyes of the left


You know there are members of every group who hate there own , not saying this is true for the Milo just say. But it irks me that people on the right find the few black/gay/whatever people that agree with and act like their voices should be heard over the huge amounts of the those groups who say just the opposite . Hell if I were a dishonest person. I would start a youtube page were I complained about the left and black people and watch my sub count go up like crazy.
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:52:06 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Lmfao just looked at this and B&N has had physical copies the entire time they just had to be purchased online or order to be sent to a store.

In other words, B&N had no physical copies.
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Darmik
08/07/17 3:54:49 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Oh that's Mal? Because he told me he'd eat crow if it hadn't sold 100k by the end of July.

Did I not just do that?

He also sold way more than your prediction, IIRC


I didn't make any prediction. You were in denial he only sold 18,000 his first week because it charted. I never said that would be lifetime.

I don't think he'll make the 100k sales without deep discounts though.
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Bio1590
08/07/17 3:55:15 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Lmfao just looked at this and B&N has had physical copies the entire time they just had to be purchased online or order to be sent to a store.

In other words, B&N had no physical copies.

Lmfao are you trying to redefine what the word "physical" means because you got called on your bullshit?

You could literally get a copy to phyically hold in your hands from B&N.
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Sephiroth1288
08/07/17 3:56:24 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Lmfao are you trying to redefine what the word "physical" means because you got called on your bulls***?

I'm rather certain that just about everyone understands "physical copy" to mean a copy that you can find in-store.
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Bio1590
08/07/17 11:57:54 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Lmfao are you trying to redefine what the word "physical" means because you got called on your bulls***?

I'm rather certain that just about everyone understands "physical copy" to mean a copy that you can find in-store.

Lmfao stop with your bullshit. Just admit you were talking out of your ass.

"Physical copy" is literally a copy that you can hold in your hands. It's physical, it's there. It doesn't matter how you obtain it.
"Digital copy" is a copy that only exists digitally. There is no physical disc or book for you to hold.

If you buy games from Amazon or Best Buy's website and they ship you a copy where there's a disc that goes into your console, you are saying that doesn't qualify as a physical copy.
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ultimate reaver
08/07/17 12:01:47 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Lmfao are you trying to redefine what the word "physical" means because you got called on your bulls***?

I'm rather certain that just about everyone understands "physical copy" to mean a copy that you can find in-store.


"physical copies" of any media refer to those made with physical materials and not digitally produced. In the case of books a physical copy would be a print book, whether you order it or purchase it online. Nonphysical would be an ebook or pdf
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Esrac
08/07/17 12:40:29 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Lmfao are you trying to redefine what the word "physical" means because you got called on your bulls***?

I'm rather certain that just about everyone understands "physical copy" to mean a copy that you can find in-store.


Not quite. Everyone understands that to mean a copy made from physical components: paper pages, ink, etc. If they don't have any in-store, they're just out of stock at that time.

And, apparently, Barnes and Noble chose not to keep the book in stock at any stores. There are a few videos out there of people going into the store for it and the clerk being unable to order copies for the store. Whatever mechanism they usually use to order books to the store is engaged specifically for Dangerous and they'd never seen that before.

The implication of the videos seem to be that some at B&N objects to the book and it's author and is trying to hurt sales by making it more difficult to buy a copy. That said, who knows how much of it is Righties putting on a show.
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