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LordTrinen 08/06/17 4:53:40 PM #1:	I watched "Citizen Kane" recently. In the movie Kane attempts to run for Governor. That hope came to a halt when his rival publicized a sex scandal about him. There is a scene that shows the people at Kane’s newspaper debating which headline they should publish the day after the election. One declares Kane’s victory while the other rages about his defeat. Because of the scandal, they have to publish the latter. I also remember seeing the end of another movie where a woman is on trial for murder. The day of the verdict, a truck is waiting outside the courthouse loaded with unreleased newspapers, half declaring the woman guilty and the other half not guilty. The newsboy in the truck was waiting for a signal from someone in the courthouse to know which papers to start handing out. I imagine most forms of media do stuff like this, especially when it comes to elections. Whether it be newspapers or websites or magazines they prepare two sets of articles, one for each candidate. Maybe they’ll leave some spots blank so they can express certain last minute details but once the results are declared they are ready to spring into action. But think back to the months leading up to the 2016 election. There was this incredible air of certainty that Hillary Clinton was DEFINITELY going to win. Nine out of ten polls said so. All the news outlets that were constantly ragging on Trump and praising Clinton said so. Even many Trump supporters gloomily admitted that Clinton was likely going to win. A Trump victory seemed completely outside the realm of possibility. I wonder how many news outlets bought into this certainty? How many believed their own press so much that they spent all their time preparing articles declaring a Clinton victory that they spent little or no time preparing any Trump victory material? I suspect Newsweek is one such periodical that might have done this. I read an article about how they printed up a lot of magazines with Clinton’s picture on the cover with the headline “Madame President”. Inside was a lengthy article detailing Clinton’s rise to the presidency. They were certainly prepared for the Clinton victory as they had already distributed these magazines to newsstands and such. Naturally they were all recalled but one newsstand did mistakenly put them out. A guy bought one and is keeping it since it may be worth a lot of money one day. Newsweek was ready for the Clinton victory…but what I haven’t been able to find is how quickly Trump magazines hit the shelves after it. Did they genuinely have some ready or did they have to do a rush print job? November 9th, 2016. A day the entire world seemed to grind to a halt. Everywhere you went, people were in utter shock. Then when the initial shock wore off, the nation split between cheers of celebration and howls of despair. The same seemed to happen across the entire world from what I read. I spoke to someone who watched the results as they came in election day (I didn’t). I don’t remember which network they said they were watching but it was one that was very pro-Clinton (which was about all of them). They said that as the evening dragged on, it became more and more apparent that the newscasters were panicking. Each time Trump won a new state they were like, “It’s no big deal! These other states are more important and Clinton is SURE to win them.” But she didn’t. They recounted to me the reaction of one newscaster as he discussed certain swing states and how the guy was emphasizing that NO ONE had ever won all of them in a single election before. The way he said it, it was like he was trying to convince himself that a complete impossibility had occurred. All in all, for better or worse, November 9th 2016 was a truly fascinating day to watch. <cite>LordTrinen posted [p:884297444] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>I watched "Citizen Kane" recently. In the movie Kane attempts to run for Governor. That hope came to a halt when his rival publicized a sex scandal about him. There is a scene that shows the people at Kane’s newspaper debating which headline they should publish the day after the election. One declares Kane’s victory while the other rages about his defeat. Because of the scandal, they have to publish the latter. I also remember seeing the end of another movie where a woman is on trial for murder. The day of the verdict, a truck is waiting outside the courthouse loaded with unreleased newspapers, half declaring the woman guilty and the other half not guilty. The newsboy in the truck was waiting for a signal from someone in the courthouse to know which papers to start handing out. I imagine most forms of media do stuff like this, especially when it comes to elections. Whether it be newspapers or websites or magazines they prepare two sets of articles, one for each candidate. Maybe they’ll leave some spots blank so they can express certain last minute details but once the results are declared they are ready to spring into action. But think back to the months leading up to the 2016 election. There was this incredible air of certainty that Hillary Clinton was DEFINITELY going to win. Nine out of ten polls said so. All the news outlets that were constantly ragging on Trump and praising Clinton said so. Even many Trump supporters gloomily admitted that Clinton was likely going to win. A Trump victory seemed completely outside the realm of possibility. I wonder how many news outlets bought into this certainty? How many believed their own press so much that they spent all their time preparing articles declaring a Clinton victory that they spent little or no time preparing any Trump victory material? I suspect Newsweek is one such periodical that might have done this. I read an article about how they printed up a lot of magazines with Clinton’s picture on the cover with the headline “Madame President”. Inside was a lengthy article detailing Clinton’s rise to the presidency. They were certainly prepared for the Clinton victory as they had already distributed these magazines to newsstands and such. Naturally they were all recalled but one newsstand did mistakenly put them out. A guy bought one and is keeping it since it may be worth a lot of money one day. Newsweek was ready for the Clinton victory…but what I haven’t been able to find is how quickly Trump magazines hit the shelves after it. Did they genuinely have some ready or did they have to do a rush print job? November 9th, 2016. A day the entire world seemed to grind to a halt. Everywhere you went, people were in utter shock. Then when the initial shock wore off, the nation split between cheers of celebration and howls of despair. The same seemed to happen across the entire world from what I read. I spoke to someone who watched the results as they came in election day (I didn’t). I don’t remember which network they said they were watching but it was one that was very pro-Clinton (which was about all of them). They said that as the evening dragged on, it became more and more apparent that the newscasters were panicking. Each time Trump won a new state they were like, “It’s no big deal! These other states are more important and Clinton is SURE to win them.” But she didn’t. They recounted to me the reaction of one newscaster as he discussed certain swing states and how the guy was emphasizing that NO ONE had ever won all of them in a single election before. The way he said it, it was like he was trying to convince himself that a complete impossibility had occurred. All in all, for better or worse, November 9th 2016 was a truly fascinating day to watch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoldRupee 08/06/17 4:55:14 PM #2:	tl;dr --- http://i.imgur.com/3QCCxuu.jpg <cite>GoldRupee posted [p:884297511] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 08/06/17 4:55:18 PM #3:	They weren't, I was watching CBS when it happened and they even went so far as to let a black guy accuse it on all of his supporters being racist bullies --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:884297514] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>They weren't, I was watching CBS when it happened and they even went so far as to let a black guy accuse it on all of his supporters being racist bullies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thecoolgu 08/06/17 4:55:39 PM #4:	It blew the media away, that's for sure. --- (Insert situational remark here) <cite>thecoolgu posted [p:884297525] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>It blew the media away, that's for sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/06/17 4:56:03 PM #5:	there is no such thing as trump and there is no such thing as the media --- "I can i i everything else," Bob reportedly said. Alice replied: "Balls have zero to me to me to me..." (Facebook AIs talking to each other) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:884297539] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>there is no such thing as trump and there is no such thing as the media</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/06/17 4:56:38 PM #6:	Even Trump wasn't prepared to win that election. He was already preparing to contest it with his constant cries of the election being rigged. It's probably also why the GOP didn't bother coming up with a healthcare plan, they were all set to dig in their heels and oppose Hillary. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:884297571] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>Even Trump wasn't prepared to win that election. He was already preparing to contest it with his constant cries of the election being rigged. It's probably also why the GOP didn't bother coming up with a healthcare plan, they were all set to dig in their heels and oppose Hillary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordTrinen 08/06/17 4:56:52 PM #7:	GoldRupee posted... tl;dr Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother? <cite>LordTrinen posted [p:884297578] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldRupee posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr</quote> Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--kresnik-- 08/06/17 4:58:38 PM #8:	This makes me wonder how many "Hillary won" cakes and balloons went straight in the trash because people believe when CNN said her chances of victory were 96%. --- Trump 2020 <cite>--kresnik-- posted [p:884297651] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>This makes me wonder how many "Hillary won" cakes and balloons went straight in the trash because people believe when CNN said her chances of victory were 96%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 08/06/17 5:01:38 PM #9:	--- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:884297778] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 08/06/17 5:03:14 PM #10:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-RtCtD-p7E They weren't --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:884297866] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-RtCtD-p7E They weren't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDarkCircle 08/06/17 5:04:48 PM #11:	LordTrinen posted... GoldRupee posted... tl;dr Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother? Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win. <cite>TheDarkCircle posted [p:884297955] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordTrinen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldRupee posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr</quote> Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother?</quote> Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 08/06/17 5:05:03 PM #12:	Nov 9th was a hella fun day to be on the internet just to see everyone's reactions. The whole day was fucking hilarious from both sides --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:884297974] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>Nov 9th was a hella fun day to be on the internet just to see everyone's reactions. The whole day was fucking hilarious from both sides</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 08/06/17 5:06:01 PM #13:	The media's readiness is irrelevant. The key is that America was ready for Trump. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice #BLM <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:884298015] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote>The media's readiness is irrelevant. The key is that America was ready for Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordTrinen 08/06/17 5:11:12 PM #14:	TheDarkCircle posted... LordTrinen posted... GoldRupee posted... tl;dr Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother? Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win. You would think. But after posting this I got extra curious about the Newsweek thing and did extra research. If what I read is correct, the Trump victory magazine did not reach stores until the week after. This says to me that Newsweek didn't even have them printed. Still having trouble verifying this though. Tropicalwood posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-RtCtD-p7E They weren't This is also very fascinating. The media tables have probably never been this empty following an election. Crazy. <cite>LordTrinen posted [p:884298265] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheDarkCircle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordTrinen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldRupee posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr</quote> Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother?</quote> Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win.</quote> You would think. But after posting this I got extra curious about the Newsweek thing and did extra research. If what I read is correct, the Trump victory magazine did not reach stores until the week after. This says to me that Newsweek didn't even have them printed. Still having trouble verifying this though. <cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-RtCtD-p7E They weren't</quote> This is also very fascinating. The media tables have probably never been this empty following an election. Crazy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDarkCircle 08/06/17 5:24:04 PM #15:	LordTrinen posted... TheDarkCircle posted... LordTrinen posted... GoldRupee posted... tl;dr Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother? Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win. You would think. But after posting this I got extra curious about the Newsweek thing and did extra research. If what I read is correct, the Trump victory magazine did not reach stores until the week after. This says to me that Newsweek didn't even have them printed. Still having trouble verifying this though. I dunno if that's true or not. Could be, even if it is I think that has more do to with the incurred costs of shipping and printing, and the fact that unsold magazines for the unused version would be a sunk cost. Waiting to see who won and then going to print makes sense, that doesn't mean they didn't have both outcomes ready to go though. <cite>TheDarkCircle posted [p:884298851] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordTrinen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheDarkCircle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordTrinen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldRupee posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr</quote> Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother?</quote> Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win.</quote> You would think. But after posting this I got extra curious about the Newsweek thing and did extra research. If what I read is correct, the Trump victory magazine did not reach stores until the week after. This says to me that Newsweek didn't even have them printed. Still having trouble verifying this though. </quote> I dunno if that's true or not. Could be, even if it is I think that has more do to with the incurred costs of shipping and printing, and the fact that unsold magazines for the unused version would be a sunk cost. Waiting to see who won and then going to print makes sense, that doesn't mean they didn't have both outcomes ready to go though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordTrinen 08/06/17 7:28:45 PM #16:	TheDarkCircle posted... LordTrinen posted... TheDarkCircle posted... LordTrinen posted... GoldRupee posted... tl;dr Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother? Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win. You would think. But after posting this I got extra curious about the Newsweek thing and did extra research. If what I read is correct, the Trump victory magazine did not reach stores until the week after. This says to me that Newsweek didn't even have them printed. Still having trouble verifying this though. I dunno if that's true or not. Could be, even if it is I think that has more do to with the incurred costs of shipping and printing, and the fact that unsold magazines for the unused version would be a sunk cost. Waiting to see who won and then going to print makes sense, that doesn't mean they didn't have both outcomes ready to go though. Normally you'd be right. But Newsweek shipped out the Clinton magazines before the verdicts even came in. They went out so fast that people started screaming fowl play, that Newsweek was colluding with Clinton in some fashion to help her win. Or so I read. They weren't prepared for that to be a sunk cost. Still having trouble confirming this but it does look like Newsweek did have plans for the Trump magazine. They just didn't bother to print any before the election. They certain did for Clinton and put forth the time and expense to have them shipped out in advance. NeonOctopus posted... Nov 9th was a hella fun day to be on the internet just to see everyone's reactions. The whole day was fucking hilarious from both sides Yep. Everything was bat-shit crazy. In hindsight I wish I had called in sick that day so I could sit back with a bowl of popcorn and watch the news and read internet articles. <cite>LordTrinen posted [p:884304723] in How prepar... [t:75644284]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheDarkCircle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordTrinen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheDarkCircle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordTrinen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldRupee posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr</quote> Magazines and such definitely had complete "Clinton Won!" articles ready to publish. The entire world seemed confident that this was definitely going to happen. Then Trump won. Did the newspapers also have any "Trump Won!" articles ready? Or were they so sure Clinton was going to win that they didn't bother?</quote> Of course they had both ready to go. After "Dewey Defeats Truman", all publications had both outcomes in some form ready to print. That said, most news media was not expecting a Trump win.</quote> You would think. But after posting this I got extra curious about the Newsweek thing and did extra research. If what I read is correct, the Trump victory magazine did not reach stores until the week after. This says to me that Newsweek didn't even have them printed. Still having trouble verifying this though. </quote> I dunno if that's true or not. Could be, even if it is I think that has more do to with the incurred costs of shipping and printing, and the fact that unsold magazines for the unused version would be a sunk cost. Waiting to see who won and then going to print makes sense, that doesn't mean they didn't have both outcomes ready to go though.</quote> Normally you'd be right. But Newsweek shipped out the Clinton magazines before the verdicts even came in. They went out so fast that people started screaming fowl play, that Newsweek was colluding with Clinton in some fashion to help her win. Or so I read. They weren't prepared for that to be a sunk cost. Still having trouble confirming this but it does look like Newsweek did have plans for the Trump magazine. They just didn't bother to print any before the election. They certain did for Clinton and put forth the time and expense to have them shipped out in advance. <cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Nov 9th was a hella fun day to be on the internet just to see everyone's reactions. The whole day was fucking hilarious from both sides</quote> Yep. Everything was bat-shit crazy. In hindsight I wish I had called in sick that day so I could sit back with a bowl of popcorn and watch the news and read internet articles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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