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Mackorov 08/05/17 9:14:57 AM #1:	Approve or disapprove? I approve of it I disapprove of it View Results Would you like it if the law gave the same punishments back to criminals on whatever acts of cruelty they do? For example, if a criminal is convicted of some really inhumane torture to the victim, the criminal should be given the exact same inhumane torture treatment. If someone is convicted of rape, the person should get punished by getting raped in return (by some ugly ** of course). If someone is convicted of murder, the person should be killed in the same fashion as he/she killed the victim. and so on... And all this ontop of this, the criminal is still also sentenced to a jail term. Think it'd be more fair? <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884222701] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote> Approve or disapprove? I approve of it I disapprove of it View Results Would you like it if the law gave the same punishments back to criminals on whatever acts of cruelty they do? For example, if a criminal is convicted of some really inhumane torture to the victim, the criminal should be given the exact same inhumane torture treatment. If someone is convicted of rape, the person should get punished by getting raped in return (by some ugly ** of course). If someone is convicted of murder, the person should be killed in the same fashion as he/she killed the victim. and so on... And all this ontop of this, the criminal is still also sentenced to a jail term. Think it'd be more fair?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 08/05/17 9:15:57 AM #2:	An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is my fetish --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:884222725] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is my fetish</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 08/05/17 9:22:50 AM #3:	How would that work for drug related crimes? Or prostitution. Traffic violations like speeding. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:884222921] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>How would that work for drug related crimes? Or prostitution. Traffic violations like speeding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 08/05/17 9:25:45 AM #4:	uwnim posted... How would that work for drug related crimes? Or prostitution. Traffic violations like speeding. Do all that harder --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:884222996] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>How would that work for drug related crimes? Or prostitution. Traffic violations like speeding.</quote> Do all that harder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murayomi 08/05/17 9:26:54 AM #5:	So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo. --- .0721 \| "Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom." <cite>Murayomi posted [p:884223029] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 08/05/17 9:27:28 AM #6:	uwnim posted... How would that work for drug related crimes? Or prostitution. Traffic violations like speeding. of course it can't apply to all kinds of crimes. Such crimes like those don't really have a direct victim to compensate for anyway. I'm talking about the more serious crimes. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884223047] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>How would that work for drug related crimes? Or prostitution. Traffic violations like speeding.</quote> of course it can't apply to all kinds of crimes. Such crimes like those don't really have a direct victim to compensate for anyway. I'm talking about the more serious crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 08/05/17 9:29:01 AM #9:	Murayomi posted... So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo. This already happens tbh --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:884223094] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Murayomi posted...</cite> <quote>So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo.</quote> This already happens tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murayomi 08/05/17 9:29:55 AM #10:	Mackorov posted... Murayomi posted... So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo. why not? The guy being raped deserves to get raped. An eye for an eye. But what about the guy who rapes the rapist. You're just letting him commit a crime without any consequences. --- .0721 \| "Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom." <cite>Murayomi posted [p:884223121] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Murayomi posted...</cite> <quote>So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo.</quote> why not? The guy being raped deserves to get raped. An eye for an eye.</quote> But what about the guy who rapes the rapist. You're just letting him commit a crime without any consequences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murayomi 08/05/17 9:30:32 AM #11:	Irony posted... Murayomi posted... So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo. This already happens tbh Sadly. --- .0721 \| "Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom." <cite>Murayomi posted [p:884223143] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Murayomi posted...</cite> <quote>So, if a criminal rapes someone, someone else gets to rape this criminal without any consequences? That's fucked up yo.</quote> This already happens tbh</quote> Sadly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 08/05/17 9:30:42 AM #12:	Why are people against this idea? It's the fairest in my opinion. It avoids punishments given to criminals that are too light, and at the same time avoids punishments given to criminals that are too heavy. What it gives is the EXACT punishment back to criminals as their very crimes. It also would prevent the many, many screwed up cases of some minor criminals being sentenced for punishments worse than some major criminals and vice versa. It would be, by all means, very justified. Unethical of course, is another thing. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884223146] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>Why are people against this idea? It's the fairest in my opinion. It avoids punishments given to criminals that are too light, and at the same time avoids punishments given to criminals that are too heavy. What it gives is the EXACT punishment back to criminals as their very crimes. It also would prevent the many, many screwed up cases of some minor criminals being sentenced for punishments worse than some major criminals and vice versa. It would be, by all means, very justified. Unethical of course, is another thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 08/05/17 9:33:23 AM #13:	you people are fucked up --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:884223229] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>you people are fucked up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 08/05/17 9:33:50 AM #14:	Choco posted... you people are fucked up Reported --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:884223245] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Choco posted...</cite> <quote>you people are fucked up</quote> Reported</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkdamental 08/05/17 9:35:12 AM #15:	To me, that idea would be the epitome of justice -- even if it's the kind of justice that makes us squeamish, and you would have to question whether the person who willingly carries out such punishments under protection of the law is any less of a sociopath than the person who perpetrates similar horrors ouside of it. But definitely, it seems to me that being inconvenienced by five years in prison before being released and then having a line drawn under your crime, when you've disfigured or crippled someone for the rest of their entire life -- that isn't justice; it's hawking a contemptuous gob of spittle into the face of justice. It's an example of the state valuing the life and feelings of the criminal far above those of their victim, who once again comes bottom of the list of priorities. "That isn't justice, that's revenge." False dichotomy. Justice is about justice for the victim. It's about balance in the moral order, and the principle of "an eye for an eye" exemplifies that balance perfectly. Don't you dare take it upon yourself to insist on clemency or forgiveness when you're not the wronged party; you don't have that right. I'd point out that I'm a liberal, by the way. This may astonish conservatives (and, I suspect, more than a few liberals), but it isn't necessary to be pro-crime to be one. --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 <cite>Funkdamental posted [p:884223279] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>To me, that idea would be the epitome of justice -- even if it's the kind of justice that makes us squeamish, and you would have to question whether the person who willingly carries out such punishments under protection of the law is any less of a sociopath than the person who perpetrates similar horrors ouside of it. But definitely, it seems to me that being inconvenienced by five years in prison before being released and then having a line drawn under your crime, when you've disfigured or crippled someone for the rest of their entire life -- that isn't justice; it's hawking a contemptuous gob of spittle into the face of justice. It's an example of the state valuing the life and feelings of the criminal far above those of their victim, who once again comes bottom of the list of priorities. "That isn't justice, that's revenge." False dichotomy. Justice is about justice for the victim. It's about balance in the moral order, and the principle of "an eye for an eye" exemplifies that balance perfectly. Don't you dare take it upon yourself to insist on clemency or forgiveness when you're not the wronged party; you don't have that right. I'd point out that I'm a liberal, by the way. This may astonish conservatives (and, I suspect, more than a few liberals), but it isn't necessary to be pro-crime to be one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mernardi 08/05/17 9:37:09 AM #17:	Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then? --- -The Admin <cite>Mernardi posted [p:884223338] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 08/05/17 9:38:31 AM #18:	-Gavirulax- posted... Mackorov posted... Why are people against this idea? It's the fairest in my opinion. It avoids punishments given to criminals that are too light, and at the same time avoids punishments given to criminals that are too heavy. In the case of something like rape, you're asking someone else to rape a rapist - who would be responsible for handing out this punishment? Obviously the idea is unfeasible, though somewhat imposed in countries like Iran. that's like asking who carries out executions of death row prisoners? Who hangs prisoners sentenced to death? Who tortures and interrogates war criminals and terrorists? There's always someone up for it. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884223376] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people against this idea? It's the fairest in my opinion. It avoids punishments given to criminals that are too light, and at the same time avoids punishments given to criminals that are too heavy. </quote> In the case of something like rape, you're asking someone else to rape a rapist - who would be responsible for handing out this punishment? Obviously the idea is unfeasible, though somewhat imposed in countries like Iran.</quote> that's like asking who carries out executions of death row prisoners? Who hangs prisoners sentenced to death? Who tortures and interrogates war criminals and terrorists? There's always someone up for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 08/05/17 9:40:37 AM #20:	Funkdamental posted... To me, that idea would be the epitome of justice -- even if it's the kind of justice that makes us squeamish, and you would have to question whether the person who willingly carries out such punishments under protection of the law is any less of a sociopath than the person who perpetrates similar horrors ouside of it. But definitely, it seems to me that being inconvenienced by five years in prison before being released and then having a line drawn under your crime, when you've disfigured or crippled someone for the rest of their entire life -- that isn't justice; it's hawking a contemptuous gob of spittle into the face of justice. It's an example of the state valuing the life and feelings of the criminal far above those of their victim, who once again comes bottom of the list of priorities. "That isn't justice, that's revenge." False dichotomy. Justice is about justice for the victim. It's about balance in the moral order, and the principle of "an eye for an eye" exemplifies that balance perfectly. Don't you dare take it upon yourself to insist on clemency or forgiveness when you're not the wronged party; you don't have that right. I'd point out that I'm a liberal, by the way. This may astonish conservatives (and, I suspect, more than a few liberals), but it isn't necessary to be pro-crime to be one. you, I like you. <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884223433] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkdamental posted...</cite> <quote>To me, that idea would be the epitome of justice -- even if it's the kind of justice that makes us squeamish, and you would have to question whether the person who willingly carries out such punishments under protection of the law is any less of a sociopath than the person who perpetrates similar horrors ouside of it. But definitely, it seems to me that being inconvenienced by five years in prison before being released and then having a line drawn under your crime, when you've disfigured or crippled someone for the rest of their entire life -- that isn't justice; it's hawking a contemptuous gob of spittle into the face of justice. It's an example of the state valuing the life and feelings of the criminal far above those of their victim, who once again comes bottom of the list of priorities. "That isn't justice, that's revenge." False dichotomy. Justice is about justice for the victim. It's about balance in the moral order, and the principle of "an eye for an eye" exemplifies that balance perfectly. Don't you dare take it upon yourself to insist on clemency or forgiveness when you're not the wronged party; you don't have that right. I'd point out that I'm a liberal, by the way. This may astonish conservatives (and, I suspect, more than a few liberals), but it isn't necessary to be pro-crime to be one.</quote> you, I like you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 08/05/17 9:42:06 AM #21:	Choco posted... you people are fucked up --- "The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma http://steamcommunity.com/id/Garioshi/wishlist <cite>Garioshi posted [p:884223466] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Choco posted...</cite> <quote>you people are fucked up</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mernardi 08/05/17 9:42:24 AM #22:	Mackorov posted... Mernardi posted... Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then? too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more "Oh well. We raped an innocent man! Who cares" As if I couldn't tell this was a troll thread from the jump. --- -The Admin <cite>Mernardi posted [p:884223471] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then?</quote> too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more</quote> "Oh well. We raped an innocent man! Who cares" As if I couldn't tell this was a troll thread from the jump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mackorov 08/05/17 9:45:00 AM #23:	Mernardi posted... Mackorov posted... Mernardi posted... Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then? too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more "Oh well. We raped an innocent man! Who cares" As if I couldn't tell this was a troll thread from the jump. No justice system is perfect, so you just see if the benefits outweighs the cons. And sure does here, unless you're saying the cases of innocents being convicted make up 90% of criminal cases or something <cite>Mackorov posted [p:884223542] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then?</quote> too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more</quote> "Oh well. We raped an innocent man! Who cares" As if I couldn't tell this was a troll thread from the jump.</quote> No justice system is perfect, so you just see if the benefits outweighs the cons. And sure does here, unless you're saying the cases of innocents being convicted make up 90% of criminal cases or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 08/05/17 9:53:06 AM #24:	Even for your rape example, it's easy to tweak the parameters of the crime to make the punishment not really a punishment for the perpetrator --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:884223773] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>Even for your rape example, it's easy to tweak the parameters of the crime to make the punishment not really a punishment for the perpetrator</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CircleOfManias 08/05/17 9:55:28 AM #25:	Mackorov posted... Mernardi posted... Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then? too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more It's better for a hundred guilty to walk free than it is for one innocent to be punished. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:884223852] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then?</quote> too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more</quote> It's better for a hundred guilty to walk free than it is for one innocent to be punished.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 08/05/17 10:00:14 AM #26:	No. I think people who commit horrible crimes do deserve to have the same done to them but I wouldn't want the people that are wrongly convicted to endure such things. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:884224009] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>No. I think people who commit horrible crimes do deserve to have the same done to them but I wouldn't want the people that are wrongly convicted to endure such things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 08/05/17 10:01:41 AM #27:	it's all hunky dory till a homeless guy robs your house --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan http://i.imgur.com/5Ta28.jpg <cite>bevan306 posted [p:884224052] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>it's all hunky dory till a homeless guy robs your house</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/05/17 10:21:15 AM #28:	It's all Hammurabi up in this topic. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:884224625] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>It's all Hammurabi up in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 08/05/17 10:49:37 AM #29:	Absolutely not. There's a reason why no advanced society engages in that type of tribalism bullshit --- http://i.imgur.com/eZa6Wos.png <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:884225594] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely not. There's a reason why no advanced society engages in that type of tribalism bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaVeNII7 08/05/17 11:06:24 AM #30:	CircleOfManias posted... Mackorov posted... Mernardi posted... Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then? too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more It's better for a hundred guilty to walk free than it is for one innocent to be punished. No...no it isn't. Those hundred guilty individuals are going to go out and cause problems for much, much more than just one person. bevan306 posted... it's all hunky dory till a homeless guy robs your house Hope he's no too attached to that cardboard box. --- PSN/Steam: HaVeNII7 <cite>HaVeNII7 posted [p:884226177] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>CircleOfManias posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then?</quote> too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more</quote> It's better for a hundred guilty to walk free than it is for one innocent to be punished.</quote> No...no it isn't. Those hundred guilty individuals are going to go out and cause problems for much, much more than just one person. <cite>bevan306 posted...</cite> <quote>it's all hunky dory till a homeless guy robs your house</quote> Hope he's no too attached to that cardboard box.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 08/05/17 11:07:25 AM #31:	HaVeNII7 posted... No...no it isn't. Those hundred guilty individuals are going to go out and cause problems for much, much more than just one person. "I am okay with wrongly convicting and punishing people." --- "The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma http://steamcommunity.com/id/Garioshi/wishlist <cite>Garioshi posted [p:884226216] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>HaVeNII7 posted...</cite> <quote>No...no it isn't. Those hundred guilty individuals are going to go out and cause problems for much, much more than just one person. </quote> "I am okay with wrongly convicting and punishing people."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 08/05/17 11:10:26 AM #32:	I'd leave it as an option, then If they choose conventional sentencing over the act they did, it adds an extra layer of guilt and thought to what they've done --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:884226313] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>I'd leave it as an option, then If they choose conventional sentencing over the act they did, it adds an extra layer of guilt and thought to what they've done</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordZangetsu_LZ 08/05/17 11:27:58 AM #33:	Mackorov posted... Mernardi posted... Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then? too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more rellly..... --- "The Bible has noble poetry in it... and some good morals and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies." -Mark Twain <cite>LordZangetsu_LZ posted [p:884226964] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mackorov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>Then you find out the "criminal" that got raped actually was innocent. What then?</quote> too bad then. Not like it's any better than some guy spending half his life in prison for a crime he didn't commit, which btw there's plenty of. Or you can just compensate him with more</quote> rellly.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Typhon 08/05/17 11:30:46 AM #34:	Idk, but our current system isn't justice. Say someone breaks into your home and beats you half to death. They catch him, convict him, and imprison him. His "punishment"? Free food, free housing, free climate control, free clothing, etc. Your "justice"? Working to pay taxes for those things that he gets for free. Now he might be living with a higher quality of life than you are. <cite>Typhon posted [p:884227095] in Would you ... [t:75639930]...</cite> <quote>Idk, but our current system isn't justice. Say someone breaks into your home and beats you half to death. They catch him, convict him, and imprison him. His "punishment"? Free food, free housing, free climate control, free clothing, etc. Your "justice"? Working to pay taxes for those things that he gets for free. Now he might be living with a higher quality of life than you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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