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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 4:39:27 PM
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Of course regressive liberals think the system failed when it resulted in a candidate they don't like and who hurts their feelings daily. Much easier to blame the electoral college than the millions of lazy fellow liberals who decided not to vote on Election Day.


Yeah who would have thought people in a democratic republic would complain when a president who won the democratic vote is not elected. It's insanity! Almost as if they actually mean it when they say elections should be democratic. Huh.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/05/17 4:39:36 PM
#52:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
You called Nazi's leftists and anti-gay.

Because they are leftists and anti-gay...

My bad.

I meant you said they weren't anti-gay.

They also weren't leftists rofl
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The Admiral
08/05/17 4:41:19 PM
#53:


ChainedRedone posted...
The Admiral posted...
Of course regressive liberals think the system failed when it resulted in a candidate they don't like and who hurts their feelings daily. Much easier to blame the electoral college than the millions of lazy fellow liberals who decided not to vote on Election Day.


Yeah who would have thought people in a democratic republic would complain when a president who won the democratic vote is not elected. It's insanity! Almost as if they actually mean it when they say elections should be democratic. Huh.


The US has never been a pure democracy. Not sure why'd you criticize anyone's ignorance of government and then use this kind of excuse.
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ArchiePeck
08/05/17 4:41:22 PM
#54:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
You called Nazi's leftists and anti-gay.

Because they are leftists and anti-gay...


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Damn_Underscore
08/05/17 4:41:33 PM
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The electoral college exists so a candidate can't just campaign in the biggest cities and states and win

Which is exactly what happened to Hillary Clinton. She ignored the midwest and lost because of it.
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Tmaster148
08/05/17 4:41:55 PM
#56:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Of course regressive liberals think the system failed when it resulted in a candidate they don't like and who hurts their feelings daily. Much easier to blame the electoral college than the millions of lazy fellow liberals who decided not to vote on Election Day.

Electoral college is stupid. Hillary didn't 100% lose because of it though. She lost because she failed to campaign the Rust Belt states along with multiple other grievances.

You can be critical against the system without blaming it for a loss.

Shut the fuck up.


Plus some people have hated the system before this election too. This isn't a new thing, it's just EC issues only ever get brought up after elections.
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Sephiroth1288
08/05/17 4:42:11 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
My bad.

I meant you said they weren't anti-gay.

Never said that

And they had more socialist policies than even Bernie Sanders lmao
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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 4:42:22 PM
#58:


The Admiral posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
The Admiral posted...
Of course regressive liberals think the system failed when it resulted in a candidate they don't like and who hurts their feelings daily. Much easier to blame the electoral college than the millions of lazy fellow liberals who decided not to vote on Election Day.


Yeah who would have thought people in a democratic republic would complain when a president who won the democratic vote is not elected. It's insanity! Almost as if they actually mean it when they say elections should be democratic. Huh.


The US has never been a pure democracy. Not sure why'd you criticize anyone's ignorance of government and then use this kind of excuse.


It's a democratic republic. No country in the world is a true democracy unless every statute is voted upon by the people. I bet you didn't know that though.
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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 4:43:38 PM
#60:


Damn_Underscore posted...
The electoral college exists so a candidate can't just campaign in the biggest cities and states and win

Which is exactly what happened to Hillary Clinton. She ignored the midwest and lost because of it.


Get this:

She ignored the Midwest because most considered it a sure win for Democrats. In other words, she didn't campaign there because of the electoral college. Mind blown, right?

And tell me, when was the last time someone seriously campaigned in a small state like Montana or Wyoming. According to you it makes candidates campaign in those states...right?
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sktgamer_13dude
08/05/17 4:48:43 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
My bad.

I meant you said they weren't anti-gay.

Never said that

And they had more socialist policies than even Bernie Sanders lmao

Yeah you did rofl.

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Damn_Underscore
08/05/17 4:51:25 PM
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So she lost the popular vote in the midwest... that doesn't help your argument

She won the popular vote thanks to big wins in California (4.2 million votes) and New York (1.7 million votes)

and Trump won most of upstate New York btw
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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 5:49:22 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
So she lost the popular vote in the midwest... that doesn't help your argument

She won the popular vote thanks to big wins in California (4.2 million votes) and New York (1.7 million votes)

and Trump won most of upstate New York btw


Okay. And that has literally no bearing on anything. Why is the popular vote in Michigan more important than California? What are you trying to say?
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Sephiroth1288
08/05/17 6:21:12 PM
#64:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
My bad.

I meant you said they weren't anti-gay.

Never said that

And they had more socialist policies than even Bernie Sanders lmao

Yeah you did rofl.

3uZaEKf_d

The reason you scrubs post just tgis segment is because they were trying to change the subject from racism to anti-gay and I called them on it.

This isn't HuffPo bro, you shouldn't be taking phrases lile that and inserting your own context onto them.
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Iodine
08/05/17 6:33:38 PM
#65:


Because voting regulations vary from state to state, moving to a popular vote disproportionately benefits the Democrats. It would be rather easy for Blue states to legitimately inflate voting tolls.
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Damn_Underscore
08/05/17 8:46:00 PM
#66:


ChainedRedone posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
So she lost the popular vote in the midwest... that doesn't help your argument

She won the popular vote thanks to big wins in California (4.2 million votes) and New York (1.7 million votes)

and Trump won most of upstate New York btw


Okay. And that has literally no bearing on anything. Why is the popular vote in Michigan more important than California? What are you trying to say?


To win the election, you have to win the popular vote in each state. Therefore Hillary lost the popular vote in the midwest

Hillary lost because she ignored everywhere but the big cities. The county voting map says it all

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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 9:32:03 PM
#67:


Iodine posted...
Because voting regulations vary from state to state, moving to a popular vote disproportionately benefits the Democrats. It would be rather easy for Blue states to legitimately inflate voting tolls.


Holy shit a democratic election disproportionately benefits the candidate with the most votes? You don't fucking say.

It's really amazing how you would only hear this complaint in America.
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Sephiroth1288
08/05/17 11:21:31 PM
#68:


ChainedRedone posted...
Holy s*** a democratic election disproportionately benefits the candidate with the most votes? You don't f***ing say.

Yeah, amazing what giving votes to illegals and felons can accomplish!
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Questionmarktarius
08/05/17 11:26:40 PM
#69:


iPhone_7 posted...
It was to prevent a demagogue from being elected if they won the popular vote, except it's exactly what helped Trump get elected. They didn't foresee that officials would lack a spine and vote along party lines anyways.

And this is twice now within 16 years that the electoral college has screwed over the Democrats. Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

Article 2 doesn't even mandate a popular vote, but lets the state legislatures each decide how to determine its electors.
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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 11:26:49 PM
#70:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Holy s*** a democratic election disproportionately benefits the candidate with the most votes? You don't f***ing say.

Yeah, amazing what giving votes to illegals and felons can accomplish!


2/10
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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 11:28:54 PM
#71:


Damn_Underscore posted...
To win the election, you have to win the popular vote in each state. Therefore Hillary lost the popular vote in the midwest

Hillary lost because she ignored everywhere but the big cities. The county voting map says it all


That is an awfully simplistic reasoning of why she lost the election. As I said, she ignored the midwest precisely because the EC exists, yet you are arguing the EC prevents that. When was the last time a small state like Wyoming was the centerpiece of a campaign?
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Iodine
08/05/17 11:30:22 PM
#72:


ChainedRedone posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Holy s*** a democratic election disproportionately benefits the candidate with the most votes? You don't f***ing say.

Yeah, amazing what giving votes to illegals and felons can accomplish!


2/10

illegals I sort of get, but what is wrong with felons voting?
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Iodine
08/05/17 11:31:09 PM
#73:


Well actually, Hillary lost because voter suppression dramatically reduced the black vote.
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Sephiroth1288
08/05/17 11:31:28 PM
#74:


Iodine posted...
illegals I sort of get, but what is wrong with felons voting?

Why would we want violent criminals to decide how the country is run
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Sephiroth1288
08/05/17 11:32:29 PM
#75:


Iodine posted...
Well actually, Hillary lost because voter suppression dramatically reduced the black vote.

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YourAlt
08/05/17 11:33:48 PM
#76:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
for its existence.

Pure democracy = tyranny of the majority

Without the EC, only the concerns of people living in population-dense coastal cities would matter and everyone else would get screwed.


Yeah. Tyranny from the minority is much preffered!
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ChainedRedone
08/05/17 11:37:49 PM
#77:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Iodine posted...
illegals I sort of get, but what is wrong with felons voting?

Why would we want violent criminals to decide how the country is run


Not all felonies are violent. Checkmate, atheist.
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Teen Girl Squad
08/06/17 12:02:13 AM
#78:


Serious, semi-tangental question, what rural rights are being ignored by urban population voters. I understand the poor economies they are dealing with but am not sure, outside of not subsidizing failing industry, their interests are and how they are not being addressed.
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YourAlt
08/06/17 12:03:44 AM
#79:


Teen Girl Squad posted...
Serious, semi-tangental question, what rural rights are being ignored by urban population voters. I understand the poor economies they are dealing with but am not sure, outside of not subsidizing failing industry, their interests are and how they are not being addressed.


That's because none are. It is a poor and invalid logic fail of the common Trumpette to make this argument.
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