Poll of the Day > The Dark Tower currently has 19% on RT

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Nineteen... Pretty fitting imo.

That's disappointing. I didn't have much hope that it would be good after seeing the trailer, but this kills what was left.
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I lost all hope the second I saw the trailer
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GunslingerGunsl posted...

Nineteen... Pretty fitting imo.

Fuck. That's both funny and super disappointing.

FrozenBananas posted...

I lost all hope the second I saw the trailer

Basically this.

Hearing other people shitting on it is just sort of gratifying in a way, because it kind of confirms that I wasn't just taking crazy pills when it looked like garbage to me, because a lot of other people seem to agree.

Though I'm waiting to see how long it takes before people start spinning this and blaming the movie's (presumed) failure on casting Idris Elba as a white character who is supposed to look like a young Clint Eastwood, because mumble mumble racism something (in spite of nearly every critic saying he was about the only redeeming feature IN the movie).

Then again, I also lay about 50-50 odds that it will be a huge success regardless, because stupid people lap shit up all the time, and it's entirely possible that even massive negative word of mouth won't stop a major opening weekend (at least) from happening.


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knivesX2004 posted...

GunslingerGunsl posted...

Nineteen... Pretty fitting imo.

Fuck. That's both funny and super disappointing.

Right? It almost makes me feel oddly better about it.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

FrozenBananas posted...

I lost all hope the second I saw the trailer

Basically this.

Hearing other people shitting on it is just sort of gratifying in a way, because it kind of confirms that I wasn't just taking crazy pills when it looked like garbage to me, because a lot of other people seem to agree.

Though I'm waiting to see how long it takes before people start spinning this and blaming the movie's (presumed) failure on casting Idris Elba as a white character who is supposed to look like a young Clint Eastwood, because mumble mumble racism something (in spite of nearly every critic saying he was about the only redeeming feature IN the movie).

Then again, I also lay about 50-50 odds that it will be a huge success regardless, because stupid people lap shit up all the time, and it's entirely possible that even massive negative word of mouth won't stop a major opening weekend (at least) from happening.

I enjoyed it. It wasn't the greatest movie, but I was entertained and did not find myself bored. I went in with low expectations and trying not to compare it to the books, and came out glad that I saw it. Maybe see the movie before acting like you know it is crap?

I hate that today we automatically just start trashing movies/books before they are even out and act like we know. Maybe you will watch it and hate it, and that is fine. Maybe you have no interest in seeing it in the first place, that is fine too. I just find it irritating that people think they can make an informed opinion on something they have actually not seen or read.

Speaking of Idris Elba, if you have issues with the movie, I don't see how he can be it. He was really good. I don't think acting is the issue with the movie, it is just kind of rushed and they tried to put a bit too much from a large series into one movie. Overall though, I think it is entertaining if you kind of think of it like a fan fiction take on a Stephen King story.

Archgoat posted...

Maybe see the movie before acting like you know it is crap?

I hate that today we automatically just start trashing movies/books before they are even out and act like we know.

I just find it irritating that people think they can make an informed opinion on something they have actually not seen or read.

To be fair, when a movie has been in development hell for years, and then when it finally comes out the trailer that is meant to sell it as a must-see film makes it look absolutely terrible, and then critical reviews start pouring in and its approval rating is bottoming out in the teens, pretty much every single sign is pointing at it being a huge turd.

Is it possible for a movie to overcome all of that and still manage to be good? Sure. But it's also incredibly unlikely.

And in a world where we're being constantly bombarded all year long by massive blockbuster movies, and there are thousands of hours of quality film, shows, games, or other forms of entertainment available almost instantaneously on a whim, a lot of people are no longer willing to waste a few hours and spend $10+ to go see a movie in an actual movie theater if all signs are pointing to it being crap.

20 years ago "See it for yourself before you make any judgments!" might have been a valid argument, but it isn't now, and it really hasn't been for years.

Like it or not, in a world of functionally infinite entertainment options, any movie needs to do everything in its power to win you over long before the time comes to put your money down to see it.



Archgoat posted...

Speaking of Idris Elba, if you have issues with the movie, I don't see how he can be it. He was really good.

That was my point. Even the reviews that say the movie was terrible all tend to say that he was doing good job in it.

But we're just coming off of the Ghostbusters remake, where loads of people went "Man, that movie is terrible because it is poorly written and not funny," and then people defending the movie went "You're only saying that because it was an all-female cast, you sexist!" So I'm curious to see if The Dark Tower crashes and burns hard, if there's going to be an upswell of "You're only saying it's terrible because they cast a black man in the lead role, you racist!", solely because the Internet thrives on outrage culture and persecution narratives no matter how illogical or unsupported they might be.


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Oh I didn't even notice you posted P.O.. I basically agree with you. I'm not one to let other people choose what I like and don't like, so critic ratings don't mean THAT much to me. I still cancelled my tickets for opening night based on the reviews because I judged my money to be better spent on something else that I wanted to do that night. I will still see it maybe this week or next to judge it for myself. I still can't wait to see IT. (The other Stephen King movie)

GunslingerGunsl posted...

Oh I didn't even notice you posted P.O.

;_;


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Archgoat posted...

Maybe see the movie before acting like you know it is crap?

I hate that today we automatically just start trashing movies/books before they are even out and act like we know.

I just find it irritating that people think they can make an informed opinion on something they have actually not seen or read.

To be fair, when a movie has been in development hell for years, and then when it finally comes out the trailer that is meant to sell it as a must-see film makes it look absolutely terrible, and then critical reviews start pouring in and its approval rating is bottoming out in the teens, pretty much every single sign is pointing at it being a huge turd.

Is it possible for a movie to overcome all of that and still manage to be good? Sure. But it's also incredibly unlikely.

And in a world where we're being constantly bombarded all year long by massive blockbuster movies, and there are thousands of hours of quality film, shows, games, or other forms of entertainment available almost instantaneously on a whim, a lot of people are no longer willing to waste a few hours and spend $10+ to go see a movie in an actual movie theater if all signs are pointing to it being crap.

20 years ago "See it for yourself before you make any judgments!" might have been a valid argument, but it isn't now, and it really hasn't been for years.

Like it or not, in a world of functionally infinite entertainment options, any movie needs to do everything in its power to win you over long before the time comes to put your money down to see it.

Sorry to raise this from the dead, but you kind of missed my point. I understand why you may not want to go see a movie that has gotten bad reviews and rumors of behind the scenes issues. I skip a lot of movies like that too, if I didn't have interest in the Dark Tower before, most likely would of skipped this as well.

My point is that people talk trash on something they didn't see. So, they don't want to go see it and waste their time, but they spend their time spewing hate about it on the internet. Seems so pointless to me.

When Batman vs Superman came out, it got terrible reviews and I thought it did not look good from the previews, so I chose to not waste my time and money and go see it. That is it, I did not get on a message board and talk about how it failed and it was crap. I have no problem with some skipping a movie, or even saying I don't have any interest in seeing. It just bothers me when people talk about a movie like they have already seen it because other people said they did not like it.

really wish we just got a shitty movie buy accurate adaptation. I could settle for that.
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