Current Events > UK: Compulsory Age Checks On Online Pornography Set To Start April 2018

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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40630582

A nine-month countdown to the introduction of compulsory age checks on online pornography seen from the UK has begun.

The April 2018 goal to protect under-18s was revealed as digital minister Matt Hancock signed the commencement order for the Digital Economy Act, which introduces the requirement.

But details as to how the scheme will work have yet to be finalised.

Experts who advised ministers said the targeted date seemed "unrealistic".

The act also sets out other new laws including punishing the use of bots to snatch up scores of concert tickets, and mandating the provision of subtitles on catch-up TV.

The age-check requirement applies to any website or other online platform that provides pornography "on a commercial basis" to people in the UK.

It allows a regulator to fine any business that refuses to comply and to ask third-party payment services to withdraw support.

The watchdog will also be able to force internet providers to block access to non-compliant services.

Ministers have suggested one of several ways this might work would be for pornographic sites to demand credit card details before providing any access, since in the UK consumers typically have to be over 18 to have a card of their own.

Maybe they'll do it like how they do in S. Korea with online gaming, where you need to provide your social security number
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lmfao what a joke country

The act also sets out other new laws including punishing the use of bots to snatch up scores of concert tickets, and mandating the provision of subtitles on catch-up TV.

Well at least that's a positive. Maybe. Probably not.
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Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here
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Under-18s must be protected from their own puberty!

In other news, use of free vpns in UK skyrocketed this April
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god save the queen
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pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

Yeah we'd rather have the Orange Turd in office than your fascist nanny government lmfao

Fuck the Tories. I'm not sure even the current Labour party would do this if in power, although their record on technological matters / civil liberties hasn't been great recently either.

I've been over all the negatives and potential question marks concerning this law before, e.g. what exactly "on a commercial basis" means, how non-porn sites that contain such material (e.g. reddit) probably wouldn't be included (which defeats the purpose really), why no-one with any sense should enter their CC details on a potentially dodgy porno site (and the dangers of doing so), how criminals will try to snare people (e.g. technologically illiterate kids pinching their parents' CC and using it), how they can compel sites beyond our borders (blocking has its own pitfalls), etc.

luigi13579 posted...

Fuck the Tories. I'm not sure even the current Labour party would do this if in power, although their record on technological matters / civil liberties hasn't been great recently either.

I've been over all the negatives and potential question marks concerning this law before, e.g. what exactly "on a commercial basis" means, how non-porn sites that contain such material (e.g. reddit) probably wouldn't be included (which defeats the purpose really), why no-one with any sense should enter their CC details on a potentially dodgy porno site (and the dangers of doing so), how criminals will try to snare people, how they can compel sites beyond our borders (blocking has its own pitfalls), etc.

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

Transcendentia posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

Yeah we'd rather have the Orange Turd in office than your fascist nanny government lmfao

Shall we stop comparing shit to vomit, it's boring
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Transcendentia posted...

luigi13579 posted...

Fuck the Tories. I'm not sure even the current Labour party would do this if in power, although their record on technological matters / civil liberties hasn't been great recently either.

I've been over all the negatives and potential question marks concerning this law before, e.g. what exactly "on a commercial basis" means, how non-porn sites that contain such material (e.g. reddit) probably wouldn't be included (which defeats the purpose really), why no-one with any sense should enter their CC details on a potentially dodgy porno site (and the dangers of doing so), how criminals will try to snare people, how they can compel sites beyond our borders (blocking has its own pitfalls), etc.

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

You seem really angry. Are you Ok? Maybe get some fresh air...
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Transcendentia posted...

luigi13579 posted...

Fuck the Tories. I'm not sure even the current Labour party would do this if in power, although their record on technological matters / civil liberties hasn't been great recently either.

I've been over all the negatives and potential question marks concerning this law before, e.g. what exactly "on a commercial basis" means, how non-porn sites that contain such material (e.g. reddit) probably wouldn't be included (which defeats the purpose really), why no-one with any sense should enter their CC details on a potentially dodgy porno site (and the dangers of doing so), how criminals will try to snare people, how they can compel sites beyond our borders (blocking has its own pitfalls), etc.

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

Well the big one is how fucking screwed in the ass we're going to be when brexit happens and everyone suddenly stops trading with the UK on any equal basis
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pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

Yeah we'd rather have the Orange Turd in office than your fascist nanny government lmfao

Shall we stop comparing shit to vomit, it's boring

Uh it's okay to admit that your country fucked up big time, bro. No need to deflect by bringing up the Orange Orangutan. You should just admit your country is on a very slippery slope towards absolute fascist authoritarianism and start doing something about it besides shitposting about CE being puritanical lmao.

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

luigi13579 posted...

Fuck the Tories. I'm not sure even the current Labour party would do this if in power, although their record on technological matters / civil liberties hasn't been great recently either.

I've been over all the negatives and potential question marks concerning this law before, e.g. what exactly "on a commercial basis" means, how non-porn sites that contain such material (e.g. reddit) probably wouldn't be included (which defeats the purpose really), why no-one with any sense should enter their CC details on a potentially dodgy porno site (and the dangers of doing so), how criminals will try to snare people, how they can compel sites beyond our borders (blocking has its own pitfalls), etc.

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

Well the big one is how fucking screwed in the ass we're going to be when brexit happens and everyone suddenly stops trading with the UK on any equal basis

All of Europe is fucked due to how everyone bought into the EU's strong-arm tactics. You reap what you sow.

Transcendentia posted...

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

This: https://ar.al/notes/decrypting-amber-rudd/

Rudd: Real people often prefer ease of use and a multitude of features to perfect, unbreakable security. So this is not about asking the companies to break encryption or create so called “back doors”. Who uses WhatsApp because it is end-to-end encrypted, rather than because it is an incredibly user-friendly and cheap way of staying in touch with friends and family? Companies are constantly making trade-offs between security and “usability”, and it is here where our experts believe opportunities may lie.

Rudd: So, there are options. But they rely on mature conversations between the tech companies and Government – and they must be confidential.

So basically, putting pressure on companies like Facebook (and their WhatsApp service) to silently drop end-to-end encryption.

Transcendentia posted...

Uh it's okay to admit that your country fucked up big time, bro. No need to deflect by bringing up the Orange Orangutan. You should just admit your country is on a very slippery slope towards absolute fascist authoritarianism and start doing something about it besides shitposting about CE being puritanical lmao.

When did I not admit this is a fuck up, tell me where and when

I was just calling you out on acting superior when you literally have literally the most embarrassing person on the planet as your commander in chief, we're all doing a very shit job with our republics right now
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luigi13579 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

This: https://ar.al/notes/decrypting-amber-rudd/

Rudd: Real people often prefer ease of use and a multitude of features to perfect, unbreakable security. So this is not about asking the companies to break encryption or create so called “back doors”. Who uses WhatsApp because it is end-to-end encrypted, rather than because it is an incredibly user-friendly and cheap way of staying in touch with friends and family? Companies are constantly making trade-offs between security and “usability”, and it is here where our experts believe opportunities may lie.

Rudd: So, there are options. But they rely on mature conversations between the tech companies and Government – and they must be confidential.

So basically, putting pressure on companies like Facebook (and their WhatsApp service) to silently drop end-to-end encryption.

Holy fuck

Jesus fuck "they must be confidential"

This shit will end when Gen Z grows up right
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pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

Uh it's okay to admit that your country fucked up big time, bro. No need to deflect by bringing up the Orange Orangutan. You should just admit your country is on a very slippery slope towards absolute fascist authoritarianism and start doing something about it besides shitposting about CE being puritanical lmao.

When did I not admit this is a fuck up, tell me where and when

I was just calling you out on acting superior when you literally have literally the most embarrassing person on the planet as your commander in chief, we're all doing a very shit job with our republics right now

We have the Orange Turd, but at least we don't have fascist nanny's banning pornography lmfao

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

Uh it's okay to admit that your country fucked up big time, bro. No need to deflect by bringing up the Orange Orangutan. You should just admit your country is on a very slippery slope towards absolute fascist authoritarianism and start doing something about it besides shitposting about CE being puritanical lmao.

When did I not admit this is a fuck up, tell me where and when

I was just calling you out on acting superior when you literally have literally the most embarrassing person on the planet as your commander in chief, we're all doing a very shit job with our republics right now

Well, to be fair, that embarrassing person is likely going to be gone in less than 4 years. How long will it take for this and brexit to be reversed?
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GiftedACIII posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

Uh it's okay to admit that your country fucked up big time, bro. No need to deflect by bringing up the Orange Orangutan. You should just admit your country is on a very slippery slope towards absolute fascist authoritarianism and start doing something about it besides shitposting about CE being puritanical lmao.

When did I not admit this is a fuck up, tell me where and when

I was just calling you out on acting superior when you literally have literally the most embarrassing person on the planet as your commander in chief, we're all doing a very shit job with our republics right now

Well, to be fair, that embarrassing person is likely going to be gone in less than 4 years. How long will it take for this and brexit to be reversed?

Dude, the fascist nanny government in the UK is going to be there until the UK is no longer there. It's over for them.

They should do this for CE
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armandro posted...

They should do this for CE

:(
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"Are you younger than 18?"

>Yes
>No

"This is foolproof, I'm a genius!"
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Those poor poor teenagers.
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pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

luigi13579 posted...

Fuck the Tories. I'm not sure even the current Labour party would do this if in power, although their record on technological matters / civil liberties hasn't been great recently either.

I've been over all the negatives and potential question marks concerning this law before, e.g. what exactly "on a commercial basis" means, how non-porn sites that contain such material (e.g. reddit) probably wouldn't be included (which defeats the purpose really), why no-one with any sense should enter their CC details on a potentially dodgy porno site (and the dangers of doing so), how criminals will try to snare people, how they can compel sites beyond our borders (blocking has its own pitfalls), etc.

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

Well the big one is how fucking screwed in the ass we're going to be when brexit happens and everyone suddenly stops trading with the UK on any equal basis

Lol, "Everyone will stop trading with the UK!". No, they won't. Still can't believe people actually fell for the fearmongering campaign.
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Samaellives91 posted...

Lol, "Everyone will stop trading with the UK!". No, they won't. Still can't believe people actually fell for the fearmongering campaign.

I didn't say they'd stop trading. I'm saying we're going to get screwed with tariffs.
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Transcendentia posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

Uh it's okay to admit that your country fucked up big time, bro. No need to deflect by bringing up the Orange Orangutan. You should just admit your country is on a very slippery slope towards absolute fascist authoritarianism and start doing something about it besides shitposting about CE being puritanical lmao.

When did I not admit this is a fuck up, tell me where and when

I was just calling you out on acting superior when you literally have literally the most embarrassing person on the planet as your commander in chief, we're all doing a very shit job with our republics right now

Well, to be fair, that embarrassing person is likely going to be gone in less than 4 years. How long will it take for this and brexit to be reversed?

Dude, the fascist nanny government in the UK is going to be there until the UK is no longer there. It's over for them.

Canada is pretty like this too

What's dumb is that isps are already required to block porn unless the customer requests otherwise. Any children who will be blocked from accessing porn by this is only able to access it because their parents have (delibrately or otherwise) allowed them access to it.

JE19426 posted...

What's dumb is that isps are already required to block porn unless the customer requests otherwise. Any children who will be blocked from accessing porn by this is only able to access it because their parents have (delibrately or otherwise) allowed them access to it.

This. It's a weird and redundant commitment that doesn't really benefit anything
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Anisoptera posted...

But details as to how the scheme will work have yet to be finalised.

Because it fucking can't. They would literally need to hire a person for every minor to follow them around and stop them if they tried to visit a porn site.

Hancock

luigi13579 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

This: https://ar.al/notes/decrypting-amber-rudd/

Rudd: Real people often prefer ease of use and a multitude of features to perfect, unbreakable security. So this is not about asking the companies to break encryption or create so called “back doors”. Who uses WhatsApp because it is end-to-end encrypted, rather than because it is an incredibly user-friendly and cheap way of staying in touch with friends and family? Companies are constantly making trade-offs between security and “usability”, and it is here where our experts believe opportunities may lie.

Rudd: So, there are options. But they rely on mature conversations between the tech companies and Government – and they must be confidential.

So basically, putting pressure on companies like Facebook (and their WhatsApp service) to silently drop end-to-end encryption.

It's so bizarre to have politicians pushing for the removal of end-to-end encryption when a near unanimity of tech and security experts agree that that is a ridiculous and dangerous thing to do for everyone. I guess appearing tough on terror is more important than protecting their citizens finances, identity, and lives.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

luigi13579 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

And yet your government still went ahead and did it. What's next for the fascist nanny's in charge there?

This: https://ar.al/notes/decrypting-amber-rudd/

Rudd: Real people often prefer ease of use and a multitude of features to perfect, unbreakable security. So this is not about asking the companies to break encryption or create so called “back doors”. Who uses WhatsApp because it is end-to-end encrypted, rather than because it is an incredibly user-friendly and cheap way of staying in touch with friends and family? Companies are constantly making trade-offs between security and “usability”, and it is here where our experts believe opportunities may lie.

Rudd: So, there are options. But they rely on mature conversations between the tech companies and Government – and they must be confidential.

So basically, putting pressure on companies like Facebook (and their WhatsApp service) to silently drop end-to-end encryption.

It's so bizarre to have politicians pushing for the removal of end-to-end encryption when a near unanimity of tech and security experts agree that that is a ridiculous and dangerous thing to do for everyone. I guess appearing tough on terror is more important than protecting their citizens finances, identity, and lives.

Ironically, the sort of crime that would encourage would be the sort of crime that could fund and potentially empower terrorism more.

Well I'm glad to be an American

Where at least I know I'm free
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Transcendentia posted...

Yeah we'd rather have the Orange Turd

This is a big part of the problem.
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pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

At least we can look at porn without having to verify to the government that we are doing it.
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--kresnik-- posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

At least we can look at porn without having to verify to the government that we are doing it.

Yeah, they just use espionage agencies to secretly track your every move in case that furry porn you are into leads to a major break in the War on Terror.

BootyGif posted...

Hancock

?

Such a joke country.
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Dash_Harber posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

At least we can look at porn without having to verify to the government that we are doing it.

Yeah, they just use espionage agencies to secretly track your every move in case that furry porn you are into leads to a major break in the War on Terror.

Unlike the UK where they don't even bother to use espionage, they just blatantly have cameras covering every inch of the public space.
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pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

you are a trump hating loser that cant accept reality and live in your own personal hell
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TimePharaoh posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

At least we can look at porn without having to verify to the government that we are doing it.

Yeah, they just use espionage agencies to secretly track your every move in case that furry porn you are into leads to a major break in the War on Terror.

Unlike the UK where they don't even bother to use espionage, they just blatantly have cameras covering every inch of the public space.

Warned
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LepartialJury posted...

TimePharaoh posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Transcendentia posted...

lmfao what a joke country

You have President Donald Trump, let's not throw stones from glass houses here

At least we can look at porn without having to verify to the government that we are doing it.

Yeah, they just use espionage agencies to secretly track your every move in case that furry porn you are into leads to a major break in the War on Terror.

Unlike the UK where they don't even bother to use espionage, they just blatantly have cameras covering every inch of the public space.

Warned

for posting the truth
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Transcendentia posted...

"on a commercial basis"

so it wouldn't affect free streaming sites right? I don't see the problem then.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

so it wouldn't affect free streaming sites right? I don't see the problem then.

I imagine the government will argue ""a commercial basis" means "for profit" and therefore applies to any free streaming site with ads".