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The Admiral
08/03/17 3:01:47 PM
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-guilty-coercing-boyfriend-kill-himself-text-could-get-light-n788856

A family member of a Massachusetts teen who took his own life after being coerced via text messages from his girlfriend wants the woman to spend decades behind bars.

Michelle Carter, 20, could be sentenced on Thursday to little or no prison time for her role in the July 2014 suicide of 18-year-old Conrad Roy III. She was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in June.

Carter faces up to 20 years in prison after prosecutors successfully painted the then 17-year-old as an attention-hungry teen, who craved playing the role of the grief-stricken girlfriend.

"I don’t believe she can be helped. I don’t believe she could even give one single f--- about what she’s done," Roy's aunt Kim Bozzi wrote in a statement to Bristol County Juvenile Court Judge Lawrence Moniz. "I believe she should be kept far away from society. No Disney trips, graduations or proms she can bask in. Take away the spotlight that she so desperately craves. Twenty years may seem extreme but it is still twenty more than Conrad will ever have."

During the hearing, Roy's family spoke through tears, explaining how Carter's actions had impacted each of them, as they spoke before Moniz.

"Michelle Carter exploited my son's weakness and used him as a pawn ... the fact that my son was convinced to kill himself makes the pain harder. Where was her humanity? In what world was this behavior acceptable?" Conrad Roy Jr., Roy's father, told a packed courtroom on Thursday. He said Carter showed no remorse.

Prosecutors asked Moniz to sentence Carter to 7 to 12 years in prison. The defense asked for probation.


Was always in the air about how I felt on this one, but I will be curious to see what her sentence is.
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DevsBro
08/03/17 3:03:49 PM
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I mean saying stuff shouldn't be a crime but this one posts a pretty good counterargument that's difficult to deal with.
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teepan95
08/03/17 3:04:36 PM
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Probation is too light imo. Undecided if jail time is really suitable.
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hyperpowder
08/03/17 3:06:31 PM
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Man that girl is so weird looking. Like she is losing her hair and painted her eyebrows.

She turned ugly as sin, guess that's her true punishment
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08/03/17 3:06:49 PM
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Eat More Beef
08/03/17 3:07:14 PM
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I'd say a mandatory year in a psych ward because she clearly does need help, and jail won't do that.

After the year, they should evaluate of she needs more time, then probationary check-ups and stuff.
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Darkman124
08/03/17 3:07:24 PM
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Jail time is suitable.
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NeoShadowhen
08/03/17 3:08:08 PM
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Two and a half years.
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08/03/17 3:08:28 PM
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08/03/17 3:09:58 PM
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Are there any precedents regarding this kind of trial? It's kind of like something on law and order.
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EverDownward
08/03/17 3:11:25 PM
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She deserves prison time. Maybe not life, but she absolutely needs to be punished.
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frogman_295
08/03/17 3:13:56 PM
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lolllll dumb bitch. she should definitely be behind bars for a while.
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Tezlok
08/03/17 3:14:30 PM
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I hate this girl she is fucked up
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Revocation68
08/03/17 3:15:15 PM
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2.5 years? Makes me sick. Should be more.....fucking worthless bitch
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/03/17 3:16:43 PM
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Shes a Crappy person but this getting prison time is a joke.

Unless she's some sort of superhuman with mind control it was still his choice.

If you're dating a girl who says she'll kill herself if you break up with her and you say go head and walk out are you deserving of prison time when she does?
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GAMER_X
08/03/17 3:17:35 PM
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LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.
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markconigliaro
08/03/17 3:19:31 PM
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I just read that she got 15 months.

Too little IMO.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/03/17 3:28:21 PM
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GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


You should go kill the president (actually please don't because I don't want to be charged with murder when they find out I told you to.
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GAMER_X
08/03/17 3:30:50 PM
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markconigliaro posted...
I just read that she got 15 months.

Too little IMO.


WOWWWWWW. That is just as bad or worse than that white guy with rich parents that raped a girl and got like 3 months jail time and social media freaked out about it (and rightfully so)

Our justice system is completely broken and shot out. As long as you have deep pockets you can get away with literally goddamn anything. Hope to god karma swings back on her and completely destroys her life. Honestly if you're complicit in someones death you should be put in something like a sex offender registry just so everyone that looks you up can tell you to fuck off if you try to buy a house or apply for a job. Taking another human life or helping a hell of alot is categorically bar none an unspeakable unforgivable thing. Unbelievable shes getting a slap on the wrist when they have all the texts and see how fucking awful she was.
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NihilistTurian
08/03/17 3:31:16 PM
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Kind of a shame, but what could you possibly charge her with?

At most you could only order her to seek mental help, but even thats' a stretch under the law.
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Tezlok
08/03/17 3:34:36 PM
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Shes a Crappy person but this getting prison time is a joke.

Unless she's some sort of superhuman with mind control it was still his choice.

If you're dating a girl who says she'll kill herself if you break up with her and you say go head and walk out are you deserving of prison time when she does?

Not the same thing. This girl went out of her way to encourage him to do it. He was going to back out and she talked him back into it. She manipulated a vulnerable mind
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GAMER_X
08/03/17 3:35:44 PM
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


You should go kill the president (actually please don't because I don't want to be charged with murder when they find out I told you to.


Not even kidding when i say this, and i know you're obviously kidding, but uh the entire internets backbone goes through the CIA and certain word strings get filtered and flagged, so uh......hope ya don't get a visit from the party van? Saying what you just said is kinda a big no no, regardless of it being a joke. They investigate anything and everything remotely tied to the notion of the subject you just proposed.
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Sada_Pop
08/03/17 3:37:37 PM
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GAMER_X posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


You should go kill the president (actually please don't because I don't want to be charged with murder when they find out I told you to.


Not even kidding when i say this, and i know you're obviously kidding, but uh the entire internets backbone goes through the CIA and certain word strings get filtered and flagged, so uh......hope ya don't get a visit from the party van? Saying what you just said is kinda a big no no, regardless of it being a joke. They investigate anything and everything remotely tied to the notion of the subject you just proposed.


Tin foil hat. Black helicopters.
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Revocation68
08/03/17 3:38:14 PM
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GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


Also if it were a male there would be no mercy shown. Double standard bullshit in this country. Suicide is no fucking joke. It destroys families and it haunts you forever. That worthless POS got away red handed as far as I'm concerned. "awww shes just a young confused girl awww" I'm sick of shit like this
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Offworlder1
08/03/17 3:42:27 PM
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She encouraged and egged this guy on to kill himself, she wanted him to die by his own hand, she deserved hard time not probation, community service or some weak ass BS, 10 years in jail(a real jail) minimum.

There is also the fact she pretended to be a "grieving girlfriend" which shows she is pretending to feel bad, she knew what she was doing egging him on and then acting like she was sad later.

Her actions show she DOES NOT REGRET what she did, that she put on an act to look innocent (she is guilty as fuck for encouraging suicide), and is trying to get a slap on the wrist.
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GAMER_X
08/03/17 4:06:52 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
GAMER_X posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


You should go kill the president (actually please don't because I don't want to be charged with murder when they find out I told you to.


Not even kidding when i say this, and i know you're obviously kidding, but uh the entire internets backbone goes through the CIA and certain word strings get filtered and flagged, so uh......hope ya don't get a visit from the party van? Saying what you just said is kinda a big no no, regardless of it being a joke. They investigate anything and everything remotely tied to the notion of the subject you just proposed.


Tin foil hat. Black helicopters.


No tin foil man, not even kidding the alphabet agencies tasked with monitoring this kinda talk on the channels they have full access to (phone, internet mostly) investigate every instance that declares or suggests the idea of killing the president. I'm like the first guy to say i am all for 100% free speech and anti censorship, but its a no contest thing i would think and hope everyone knows, talking about or suggesting killing the president is just not something someone with a working brain does on the internet. Unless you want a visit from some suits and a nice long interrogation on why you said what you said. They don't take that kind of thing even remotely lightly and treat every instance seriously and look into it as such. There's no conspiracy about it, its an established system of security for the leader of a country, regardless of your opinion of who it currently is.
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 4:08:08 PM
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Fuck that attention seeking bitch.

I'm so super upset about how she was so desperate for attention that she literally got a man to kill himselr to go play pity me, that I won't give her the attention of being famous by knowing her name.
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Gimmick
08/03/17 4:08:20 PM
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


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Ammonitida
08/03/17 4:11:50 PM
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She's an evil woman who suffers from a dangerous case of Munchausen by proxy. She used his suicide to draw attention to herself. She's a danger to any child she would have.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/03/17 4:14:58 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
GAMER_X posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
GAMER_X posted...
LOL idk why CE has such a lax opinion of this girl, anyone thats followed the story knows there was a point where the boyfriend was having second thoughts and didn't want to go through with it, the girlfriend WENT OUT OF HER WAY to forcefully talk him into going through with it. I had also heard/read she was going to set up fundraisers after he died ( i guess to pocket the money or something). Fund raiser aside, she's a complete and total psycho ass sociopath with no moral compass. She was his goddamn girlfriend for crying out loud!!

From what i read she could get up to 20 years, and thats what she should get MINIMUM. She used her position as someone this guy trusted and listened to, to talk him into ending his own life when she could of just as easily stopped him and saw that he got help. She might as well of killed him herself. If this is how her mind works at her current age, she has no place in society and should be removed from it. Its pathetic that we have such a shitty perception on the value of a human life in this country. She was 100% complicit in his death, and needs to have the book fired at her at mach 6 by a rail gun, no contest.


You should go kill the president (actually please don't because I don't want to be charged with murder when they find out I told you to.


Not even kidding when i say this, and i know you're obviously kidding, but uh the entire internets backbone goes through the CIA and certain word strings get filtered and flagged, so uh......hope ya don't get a visit from the party van? Saying what you just said is kinda a big no no, regardless of it being a joke. They investigate anything and everything remotely tied to the notion of the subject you just proposed.


Tin foil hat. Black helicopters.


I mean I think some low level person probably had this pop up and then immediately dismissed it.

Im sure there are programs running searching for things like that.
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OpheliaAdenade
08/03/17 4:17:56 PM
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She just made a mistake. :/ Should that ruin her entire life?
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Ammonitida
08/03/17 4:20:58 PM
#32:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
She just made a mistake. :/ Should that ruin her entire life?


She directly contributed to the suicide of a man thanks to her Munchausen syndrome. This is a very dangerous disorder that frequently compels women to abuse the people closest to them. Next on her victim list will probably be her children if she has any.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
08/03/17 4:21:50 PM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
She just made a mistake. :/ Should that ruin her entire life?

lol this guy.

"Dylann Roof just made a mistake :/. Should that ruin his entire life?"

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OpheliaAdenade
08/03/17 4:23:50 PM
#34:


Ammonitida posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
She just made a mistake. :/ Should that ruin her entire life?


She directly contributed to the suicide of a man thanks to her Munchausen syndrome. This is a very dangerous disorder that frequently compels women to abuse the people closest to them. Next on her victim list will probably be her children if she has any.


Okay? Everyone makes mistakes. I doubt her boyfriend would want people looking down on her for her munchausen syndrome.
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SageHarpuia
08/03/17 4:24:53 PM
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Considering the circumstances everyone involved was at fault for that incident, but she had the most blood on her hands.
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Yaridovich
08/03/17 4:25:15 PM
#36:


That chick looks like if Helena Bonham Carter and Tiffany (Pennsyltucky) from Orange is the New Black did the fusion dance and a sick monkey jumped in at the last second
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DezCaughtIt
08/03/17 4:26:14 PM
#37:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
She just made a mistake. :/ Should that ruin her entire life?

She encouraged her boyfriend to off himself because she wanted the attention of being the grieving girlfriend. She was well aware of what she was doing.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/03/17 4:28:28 PM
#38:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Shes a Crappy person but this getting prison time is a joke.

Unless she's some sort of superhuman with mind control it was still his choice.

If you're dating a girl who says she'll kill herself if you break up with her and you say go head and walk out are you deserving of prison time when she does?


There's more to it than that. He got out of the vehicle and didn't want to go through with it. She then talked him into getting back into the vehicle and doing it. It was negligence at the very least.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/03/17 4:29:42 PM
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Jail won't "fix" her problem. She deserves time in a mental institution to help with her syndrome.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/03/17 4:31:19 PM
#40:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
She just made a mistake. :/ Should that ruin her entire life?


A mistake would have been if he had threatened to kill himself and she ignored it and brushed it off and then it happened. She did far more than that.
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08/03/17 6:03:46 PM
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OpheliaAdenade
08/03/17 6:07:14 PM
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Listen, we all make poor decisions sometimes. We're all human. You take a look at this girl and tell me she's really that evil. She doesn't look evil at all. She looks like she could be prom queen.

I don't buy it.
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Ammonitida
08/03/17 6:23:16 PM
#44:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Listen, we all make poor decisions sometimes. We're all human. You take a look at this girl and tell me she's really that evil. She doesn't look evil at all. She looks like she could be prom queen.

I don't buy it.


Too obvious there.
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Irony
08/03/17 6:39:20 PM
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Needed more jail time
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/03/17 6:51:30 PM
#46:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Listen, we all make poor decisions sometimes. We're all human. You take a look at this girl and tell me she's really that evil. She doesn't look evil at all. She looks like she could be prom queen.

I don't buy it.


I already criticized people for using the "sentencing should be based on how attractive/nice people look" in another topic. I don't feel like doing it again. Apologies if you were being sarcastic. I'm tired.
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Raikuro
08/03/17 6:53:17 PM
#47:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
You take a look at this girl and tell me she's really that evil.

Try actually reading the texts she sent her boyfriend and still think that.
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Mike_Stanton
08/03/17 6:55:09 PM
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So if someone on CE tells me (Butters) to kill myself should they be convicted of attempted manslaughter? She didn't commit a crime...her man ultimately made the choice on his own.
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Yaridovich
08/03/17 6:55:50 PM
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OpheliaAdenade
08/03/17 6:57:10 PM
#50:


I will say she needs to invest in some bangs. Too much forehead action going on there. Her shirt is pretty though, I love floral prints.
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