Poll of the Day > Trumps signs bill approving new sanctions against Russia.

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WastelandCowboy 08/02/17 11:14:45 PM #1:	http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/02/politics/donald-trump-russia-sanctions-bill/index.html Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump signed into law Wednesday morning legislation that levies new sanctions against Russia and restricts Trump's own ability to ease sanctions in place against Moscow. The bill is one of the first major pieces of legislation that was sent to Trump's desk, and it represents a rebuke of the President by giving Congress new veto power to block him from removing Russia sanctions. The White House announced the signing shortly after 11 a.m. ET, saying the bill includes "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions" that "purport to displace the President's exclusive constitutional authority to recognize foreign governments, including their territorial bounds." Russia has reacted strongly to the bill's signing, saying it showed a "fully-fledged trade war (has been) declared against Russia" and that "the Trump administration demonstrated complete impotence, in the most humiliating manner, transferring executive powers to Congress." In a statement, Trump expressed his own doubts about the legislation: "The bill remains seriously flawed -- particularly because it encroaches on the executive branch's authority to negotiate." "Congress could not even negotiate a health care bill after seven years of talking. By limiting the executive's flexibility, this bill makes it harder for the United States to strike good deals for the American people, and will drive China, Russia, and North Korea much closer together," he said in a statement. He ended the statement by saying: "I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress." Even before Trump signed the bill, the measure prompted Russian President Vladimir Putin to retaliate against the US over the new sanctions, which Congress levied over alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US election, as well as Russia's annexation of Crimea and aggression in Syria. In a Facebook post Wednesday, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said any hope of improved relations between Washington and the Kremlin had "ended," adding he thought Trump was an "incompetent player (who) must be eliminated." Medvedev predicted future relations between Russia and the US "will be extremely tense, regardless of the Congress line up or the personality of the President," and threatened to escalate the matter to international courts. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:884087341] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/02/politics/donald-trump-russia-sanctions-bill/index.html <quote>Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump signed into law Wednesday morning legislation that levies new sanctions against Russia and restricts Trump's own ability to ease sanctions in place against Moscow. The bill is one of the first major pieces of legislation that was sent to Trump's desk, and it represents a rebuke of the President by giving Congress new veto power to block him from removing Russia sanctions. The White House announced the signing shortly after 11 a.m. ET, saying the bill includes "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions" that "purport to displace the President's exclusive constitutional authority to recognize foreign governments, including their territorial bounds." Russia has reacted strongly to the bill's signing, saying it showed a "fully-fledged trade war (has been) declared against Russia" and that "the Trump administration demonstrated complete impotence, in the most humiliating manner, transferring executive powers to Congress." In a statement, Trump expressed his own doubts about the legislation: "The bill remains seriously flawed -- particularly because it encroaches on the executive branch's authority to negotiate." "Congress could not even negotiate a health care bill after seven years of talking. By limiting the executive's flexibility, this bill makes it harder for the United States to strike good deals for the American people, and will drive China, Russia, and North Korea much closer together," he said in a statement. He ended the statement by saying: "I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress." Even before Trump signed the bill, the measure prompted Russian President Vladimir Putin to retaliate against the US over the new sanctions, which Congress levied over alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US election, as well as Russia's annexation of Crimea and aggression in Syria. In a Facebook post Wednesday, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said any hope of improved relations between Washington and the Kremlin had "ended," adding he thought Trump was an "incompetent player (who) must be eliminated." Medvedev predicted future relations between Russia and the US "will be extremely tense, regardless of the Congress line up or the personality of the President," and threatened to escalate the matter to international courts. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/02/17 11:15:57 PM #2:	Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:884087404] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/02/17 11:16:05 PM #3:	The new sanctions bill hits Russia's energy and defense sectors, and also includes fresh sanctions against Iran and North Korea. It comes amid increasing tension between the US and Russia, dating back to the last days of the Barack Obama administration, when the then President ordered the seizure of two Russian compounds in New York and Maryland in response to alleged election meddling by Moscow. Since the new sanctions were mooted, Russia has responded by ordering the US to cut staff at its diplomatic missions in the country by 755 employees, as well as seizing two US diplomatic properties. In a statement Wednesday, Russia's Foreign Ministry said it "reserves the right to other countermeasures" in response to the new sanctions. The measure was signed into law after it passed with overwhelming margins in both the House and Senate -- which made the threat of a presidential veto a non-starter -- but it was not an easy road to Trump's desk. After the Senate passed the sanctions on Iran and Russia 98-2, the bill languished in the House for more than a month amid a series of procedural fights. Then the House added North Korean sanctions before passing the measure 419-3, effectively forcing the Senate to swallow the new sanctions in order to get the legislation over the finish line before Congress left for its August congressional recess. The House and Senate struck a deal to make some changes to the bill at the urging of a host of US industries and European countries, but Congress did not consider making the change that the White House wanted: removing the congressional review on Russia sanctions from the bill. White House officials lobbied to weaken the section giving Congress a veto on the easing of sanctions, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warned Congress the administration should have "flexibility" to negotiate with Russia and improve relations. But key Republican and Democratic lawmakers said that weakening congressional review was not on the table when they were finalizing the legislation. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker, who initially was hesitant to pass a Russia sanctions bill before he was a key driver to get it done in July, said he has spoken to the President about the review process to try to ease the White House's concerns. Corker said that Congress would only veto an attempt to lessen sanctions on Russia if the administration took an "egregious" step to try to remove sanctions. "I've walked the President through the process of how congressional review works," Corker said. "The administration -- knowing that unless it's way out of bounds -- likely they have the flexibility to do what they need to do." Corker noted that Trump has refused to believe his intelligence leaders that Russia interfered with the election, and said that may have helped push Congress to get the bill done quickly. "I do think that the lack of strong statements in that regard probably effected the outcome," he said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4iX5D9Z64 <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:884087411] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><quote>The new sanctions bill hits Russia's energy and defense sectors, and also includes fresh sanctions against Iran and North Korea. It comes amid increasing tension between the US and Russia, dating back to the last days of the Barack Obama administration, when the then President ordered the seizure of two Russian compounds in New York and Maryland in response to alleged election meddling by Moscow. Since the new sanctions were mooted, Russia has responded by ordering the US to cut staff at its diplomatic missions in the country by 755 employees, as well as seizing two US diplomatic properties. In a statement Wednesday, Russia's Foreign Ministry said it "reserves the right to other countermeasures" in response to the new sanctions. The measure was signed into law after it passed with overwhelming margins in both the House and Senate -- which made the threat of a presidential veto a non-starter -- but it was not an easy road to Trump's desk. After the Senate passed the sanctions on Iran and Russia 98-2, the bill languished in the House for more than a month amid a series of procedural fights. Then the House added North Korean sanctions before passing the measure 419-3, effectively forcing the Senate to swallow the new sanctions in order to get the legislation over the finish line before Congress left for its August congressional recess. The House and Senate struck a deal to make some changes to the bill at the urging of a host of US industries and European countries, but Congress did not consider making the change that the White House wanted: removing the congressional review on Russia sanctions from the bill. White House officials lobbied to weaken the section giving Congress a veto on the easing of sanctions, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warned Congress the administration should have "flexibility" to negotiate with Russia and improve relations. But key Republican and Democratic lawmakers said that weakening congressional review was not on the table when they were finalizing the legislation. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker, who initially was hesitant to pass a Russia sanctions bill before he was a key driver to get it done in July, said he has spoken to the President about the review process to try to ease the White House's concerns. Corker said that Congress would only veto an attempt to lessen sanctions on Russia if the administration took an "egregious" step to try to remove sanctions. "I've walked the President through the process of how congressional review works," Corker said. "The administration -- knowing that unless it's way out of bounds -- likely they have the flexibility to do what they need to do." Corker noted that Trump has refused to believe his intelligence leaders that Russia interfered with the election, and said that may have helped push Congress to get the bill done quickly. "I do think that the lack of strong statements in that regard probably effected the outcome," he said.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4iX5D9Z64</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/03/17 1:32:03 AM #4:	bump <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:884093396] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kungfu Kenobi 08/03/17 1:37:16 AM #5:	Lokarin posted... Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh. --- This album is not available to the public. Even if it were, you wouldn't wanna listen to it! <cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted [p:884093588] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 08/03/17 1:58:57 AM #6:	Kungfu Kenobi posted... Lokarin posted... Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh. No, I think he was talking about the part where the conservatives - after years of criticizing Obama and Hillary for seeking warmer relations with Russia (anyone remember the literal Reset Button?) - and decades of distrusting them in general suddenly decided that they were a really cool country and that we should be best pals just because Trump says so. Curiously, I haven't heard any of them talk about this new sanctions bill. I guess they must not have seen it yet. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:884094290] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh.</quote> No, I think he was talking about the part where the conservatives - after years of criticizing Obama and Hillary for seeking warmer relations with Russia (anyone remember the literal Reset Button?) - and decades of distrusting them in general suddenly decided that they were a really cool country and that we should be best pals just because Trump says so. Curiously, I haven't heard any of them talk about this new sanctions bill. I guess they must not have seen it yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj4supervegeta 08/03/17 3:28:11 AM #7:	Lokarin posted... Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? no i don't really. i remember her saying shit about no fly zones tho, and people speculating that her approach to russia could lead to a war. i also remember people saying (and still currently saying) that trump is somehow tied to russia, and that he would do what they say. i think the exact term i heard before was "trump is putins cock holster." --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe <cite>ssj4supervegeta posted [p:884096658] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> no i don't really. i remember her saying shit about no fly zones tho, and people speculating that her approach to russia could lead to a war. i also remember people saying (and still currently saying) that trump is somehow tied to russia, and that he would do what they say. i think the exact term i heard before was "trump is putins cock holster."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/03/17 3:49:19 AM #8:	Lokarin posted... Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? Yeah, this is seven flavors of stupid. darkknight109 posted... Kungfu Kenobi posted... Lokarin posted... Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh. No, I think he was talking about the part where the conservatives - after years of criticizing Obama and Hillary for seeking warmer relations with Russia (anyone remember the literal Reset Button?) - and decades of distrusting them in general suddenly decided that they were a really cool country and that we should be best pals just because Trump says so. Curiously, I haven't heard any of them talk about this new sanctions bill. I guess they must not have seen it yet. Except Obama and Hillary were the harshest Russia critics following Crimea, something that only Romney seemed to see coming -- and was mocked for it by Obama. Meanwhile, in the real world, we NEED Russia if we're to ever stem Islamic terror. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:884097085] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> Yeah, this is seven flavors of stupid. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh.</quote> No, I think he was talking about the part where the conservatives - after years of criticizing Obama and Hillary for seeking warmer relations with Russia (anyone remember the literal Reset Button?) - and decades of distrusting them in general suddenly decided that they were a really cool country and that we should be best pals just because Trump says so. Curiously, I haven't heard any of them talk about this new sanctions bill. I guess they must not have seen it yet.</quote> Except Obama and Hillary were the harshest Russia critics following Crimea, something that only Romney seemed to see coming -- and was mocked for it by Obama. Meanwhile, in the real world, we NEED Russia if we're to ever stem Islamic terror.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 08/03/17 4:07:50 AM #9:	Zeus posted... Except Obama and Hillary were the harshest Russia critics following Crimea, something that only Romney seemed to see coming -- and was mocked for it by Obama. I will freely admit that Romney was right on that particular note and Obama was wrong. I also don't mind admitting that I thought Obama was correct at the time, largely because I hadn't been paying attention when the Georgia war happened and because Putin didn't seem to have gone full-blown authoritarian strongman back then. Zeus posted... Meanwhile, in the real world, we NEED Russia if we're to ever stem Islamic terror. And what do you think Russia can do that the US can't? Seriously, Russia has a GDP less than one tenth of the US. Hell, Canada has more money to throw around than Russia does. If you're relying on Russia to bail you out, you're screwed (for several reasons). --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:884097445] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Except Obama and Hillary were the harshest Russia critics following Crimea, something that only Romney seemed to see coming -- and was mocked for it by Obama.</quote> I will freely admit that Romney was right on that particular note and Obama was wrong. I also don't mind admitting that I thought Obama was correct at the time, largely because I hadn't been paying attention when the Georgia war happened and because Putin didn't seem to have gone full-blown authoritarian strongman back then. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> Meanwhile, in the real world, we NEED Russia if we're to ever stem Islamic terror.</quote> And what do you think Russia can do that the US can't? Seriously, Russia has a GDP less than one tenth of the US. Hell, Canada has more money to throw around than Russia does. If you're relying on Russia to bail you out, you're screwed (for several reasons).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/03/17 5:15:27 AM #10:	the kremlin is a d* we gave him a chance they want to ban VPN's in russia amoung other things like pretend gay bashing isn't a serious problem there f* russia --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5f3i8alJvl-eEpsSEx1cENUekU/view <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:884098767] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>the kremlin is a d* we gave him a chance they want to ban VPN's in russia amoung other things like pretend gay bashing isn't a serious problem there f* russia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/03/17 6:03:46 AM #11:	He should take advice from this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhSzGp7-OiY --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:884099672] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>He should take advice from this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhSzGp7-OiY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 08/03/17 6:49:33 AM #12:	What a hypocrite. Again. And again. Putin's way cooler than Trump, and he just blew any chance of an invite to the famous Kremlin sleepovers. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:884100576] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>What a hypocrite. Again. And again. Putin's way cooler than Trump, and he just blew any chance of an invite to the famous Kremlin sleepovers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 08/08/17 3:08:44 AM #13:	I thought he and Putin were best friends! --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:884385412] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote>I thought he and Putin were best friends!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/08/17 3:25:04 AM #14:	Kungfu Kenobi posted... Lokarin posted... Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know? You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh. Yeah, right. Hillary was ready to start a literal nuclear war with Russia. I know she signed in the war in the middle east, but that wouldn't have been very good for her re-election. Also, funny how Trump was hacked into office by the Russians given how much they hate each other. Maybe it was a ploy by the same Democratic party that likes to fund cooky Conservative candidates in other countries headed by our cool basket-ball playing former president. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:884385840] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, y'know that thing that everyone was against Hillary for? Y'know... aggravating Russia? Y'know?</quote> You mean that thing that would lead to literal war with Russia instead of using economic sanctions? That thing? Take off, eh.</quote> Yeah, right. Hillary was ready to start a literal nuclear war with Russia. I know she signed in the war in the middle east, but that wouldn't have been very good for her re-election. Also, funny how Trump was hacked into office by the Russians given how much they hate each other. Maybe it was a ploy by the same Democratic party that likes to fund cooky Conservative candidates in other countries headed by our cool basket-ball playing former president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/08/17 4:13:56 AM #15:	Zeus posted... Yeah, this is seven flavors of stupid. Speaking of the flavor of stupidity— what does Donald taste like? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:884387016] in Trumps sig... [t:75632465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, this is seven flavors of stupid. </quote> Speaking of the flavor of stupidity— what does Donald taste like?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > Trumps signs bill approving new sanctions against Russia.