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superXY 08/02/17 4:30:26 PM #1:	Not in your face about it, and it's not his entire persona. Done with grace. --- The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. <cite>superXY posted [p:884064845] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Not in your face about it, and it's not his entire persona. Done with grace.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/02/17 4:32:08 PM #2:	I got really confused because I thought of Bill from Left 4 Dead instead for some reason --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:884064945] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>I got really confused because I thought of Bill from Left 4 Dead instead for some reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BMXJouster 08/02/17 4:33:04 PM #3:	I think Arcade Gannon was done really well in Fallout: New Vegas. --- Diners, Drive-Ins, & Dives "One embarrassing clown's quest for the ultimate case of diarrhea." <cite>BMXJouster posted [p:884065006] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>I think Arcade Gannon was done really well in Fallout: New Vegas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 08/02/17 4:34:02 PM #4:	Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle? --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:884065080] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 08/02/17 4:35:18 PM #5:	john marsten from red dead is how you do a gay character correctly in a video game --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:884065145] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>john marsten from red dead is how you do a gay character correctly in a video game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R0ttedHorror 08/02/17 4:35:50 PM #6:	Wario was more graceful --- http://i.imgur.com/unCbAUq.jpg <cite>R0ttedHorror posted [p:884065184] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Wario was more graceful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/02/17 4:36:37 PM #7:	superXY posted... Not in your face about it, and it's not his entire persona. Done with grace. Yeah, I love how graceful it was. flays a goat alive --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:884065227] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>superXY posted...</cite> <quote>Not in your face about it, and it's not his entire persona. Done with grace.</quote> Yeah, I love how graceful it was. flays a goat alive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 08/02/17 4:39:33 PM #8:	I didn't even pick up the subtle cues when I played through the first time. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:884065392] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>I didn't even pick up the subtle cues when I played through the first time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/02/17 4:40:44 PM #9:	Blue_Inigo posted... Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle? Because cishet people are fragile and live in echo chambers. Real snowflakes if you ask me. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:884065465] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle?</quote> Because cishet people are fragile and live in echo chambers. Real snowflakes if you ask me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thompsontalker7 08/02/17 4:42:35 PM #10:	Jacob Frye from Ass Creed Syndicate is also a good (bi) example. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? <cite>thompsontalker7 posted [p:884065565] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Jacob Frye from Ass Creed Syndicate is also a good (bi) example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 08/02/17 4:44:12 PM #11:	Blue_Inigo posted... Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle? Usually when a video game character is that openly a horn dog he/she is usually a target of redicule to both the other characters and the players. --- I used to be a gamefaq poster like you until I took an arrow to my face. <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:884065648] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle?</quote> Usually when a video game character is that openly a horn dog he/she is usually a target of redicule to both the other characters and the players.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 08/02/17 9:24:42 PM #12:	Soren from Fire Emblem --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:884081161] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Soren from Fire Emblem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 08/02/17 9:46:52 PM #13:	Didn't even know he was gay. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:884082517] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Didn't even know he was gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/02/17 9:49:52 PM #14:	Luigi is probably the best representation of a gay character in gaming. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:884082712] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Luigi is probably the best representation of a gay character in gaming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Behaviorism 08/02/17 9:52:20 PM #15:	thompsontalker7 posted... Jacob Frye from Ass Creed Syndicate is also a good (bi) example. How was he bi? --- "Why is a picture of a woman standing on the left side necessary in an ad about high speed Internet and computers?" - xyphilia <cite>Behaviorism posted [p:884082852] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>thompsontalker7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jacob Frye from Ass Creed Syndicate is also a good (bi) example.</quote> How was he bi?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 08/02/17 9:54:52 PM #16:	Blue_Inigo posted... Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle? a lot of people that write video games are very untalented writers and use a person's homosexuality as a sort of substitute for a personality. you cant really do that with straight characters --- A Green Butter Alt(TM) http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:884082994] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle?</quote> a lot of people that write video games are very untalented writers and use a person's homosexuality as a sort of substitute for a personality. you cant really do that with straight characters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thompsontalker7 08/02/17 11:50:12 PM #17:	Behaviorism posted... thompsontalker7 posted... Jacob Frye from Ass Creed Syndicate is also a good (bi) example. How was he bi? His interactions with one of the male villains was flirty af and the devs later confirmed it. ~~You eventually play as his granddaughter~~ though so I'm sure they didn't make it stick --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? <cite>thompsontalker7 posted [p:884089222] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Behaviorism posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thompsontalker7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jacob Frye from Ass Creed Syndicate is also a good (bi) example.</quote> How was he bi?</quote> His interactions with one of the male villains was flirty af and the devs later confirmed it. You eventually play as his granddaughter though so I'm sure they didn't make it stick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/03/17 2:09:35 AM #18:	GiftedACIII posted... Soren from Fire Emblem Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:884094648] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Soren from Fire Emblem</quote> Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtVandelay 08/03/17 2:12:09 AM #19:	gunplagirl posted... GiftedACIII posted... Soren from Fire Emblem Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike. --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting <cite>ArtVandelay posted [p:884094712] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Soren from Fire Emblem</quote> Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game</quote> uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/03/17 2:12:53 AM #20:	I think there are several ways to do a gay character right in a video game. That's one way yeah. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884094737] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>I think there are several ways to do a gay character right in a video game. That's one way yeah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 08/03/17 2:13:29 AM #21:	A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. --- http://i.imgur.com/5YOf4dJ.mp4 <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:884094753] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/03/17 2:13:49 AM #22:	superXY posted... "I'm okay with homosexuals in the media, but only if they don't talk about it, and never do anything homosexual on screen" <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:884094763] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>superXY posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm okay with homosexuals in the media, but only if they don't talk about it, and never do anything homosexual on screen"</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 08/03/17 2:14:32 AM #23:	Cookie Bag posted... A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. So.....only like 2 games have bad been with it...but thanks <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:884094791] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.</quote> So.....only like 2 games have bad been with it...but thanks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 08/03/17 2:14:58 AM #24:	It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:884094804] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 08/03/17 2:15:35 AM #25:	CruelBuffalo posted... Cookie Bag posted... A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. So.....only like 2 games have bad been with it...but thanks A lot of games are like "blah blah blah oh right i'm also gay but i see you never asked but ill tell you anyways" when they try to do gay characters and it's honestly pathetic. --- http://i.imgur.com/IcNRfCv.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:884094822] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.</quote> So.....only like 2 games have bad been with it...but thanks</quote> A lot of games are like "blah blah blah oh right i'm also gay but i see you never asked but ill tell you anyways" when they try to do gay characters and it's honestly pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/03/17 2:15:47 AM #26:	LordFarquad1312 posted... It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason. Why does there need to be a reason? Bill didn't really need a reason. He's just gay. Cookie Bag posted... A lot of games are like "blah blah blah oh right i'm also gay but i see you never asked but ill tell you anyways" when they try to do gay characters and it's honestly pathetic. Like? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884094834] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote>It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason.</quote> Why does there need to be a reason? Bill didn't really need a reason. He's just gay. <cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of games are like "blah blah blah oh right i'm also gay but i see you never asked but ill tell you anyways" when they try to do gay characters and it's honestly pathetic.</quote> Like?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/03/17 2:15:59 AM #27:	LordFarquad1312 posted... It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason. So gay people need a reason to exist? --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:884094840] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote>It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason.</quote> So gay people need a reason to exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 08/03/17 2:18:30 AM #28:	gunplagirl posted... LordFarquad1312 posted... It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason. So gay people need a reason to exist? No but every plot centric character to a story should have a reason to exist, gay or not. Also good job comparing real life to fiction there. --- https://imgtc.com/i/s97T1Zj.png <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:884094915] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote>It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason.</quote> So gay people need a reason to exist?</quote> No but every plot centric character to a story should have a reason to exist, gay or not. Also good job comparing real life to fiction there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/03/17 2:19:06 AM #29:	ArtVandelay posted... gunplagirl posted... GiftedACIII posted... Soren from Fire Emblem Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike. And ike's response to being reunited in a non-carried over file really hints at the ending with ranulf. And the way they talk in their support conversations in both games are way more obvious that ike likes him, too, when compared to soren. You're right that soren is into ike. Just, I'm pretty sure ike and ranulf are a thing. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:884094929] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArtVandelay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Soren from Fire Emblem</quote> Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game</quote> uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike.</quote> And ike's response to being reunited in a non-carried over file really hints at the ending with ranulf. And the way they talk in their support conversations in both games are way more obvious that ike likes him, too, when compared to soren. You're right that soren is into ike. Just, I'm pretty sure ike and ranulf are a thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 08/03/17 2:20:01 AM #30:	gunplagirl posted... So gay people need a reason to exist? I mean, there was absolutely no indication that Dumbledore was gay in the books. It feels like she just made him gay after the fact. Not that I'm against him being gay. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:884094962] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>So gay people need a reason to exist?</quote> I mean, there was absolutely no indication that Dumbledore was gay in the books. It feels like she just made him gay after the fact. Not that I'm against him being gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/03/17 2:20:49 AM #31:	LordFarquad1312 posted... gunplagirl posted... So gay people need a reason to exist? I mean, there was absolutely no indication that Dumbledore was gay in the books. It feels like she just made it after the fact. Not that I'm against him being gay. Ah I get what you mean now. Yeah it should at least be something you find out within the story itself and not added later. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884094984] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>So gay people need a reason to exist?</quote> I mean, there was absolutely no indication that Dumbledore was gay in the books. It feels like she just made it after the fact. Not that I'm against him being gay.</quote> Ah I get what you mean now. Yeah it should at least be something you find out within the story itself and not added later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/03/17 2:21:20 AM #32:	Cookie Bag posted... No but every plot centric character to a story should have a reason to exist, gay or not. Why does this never come up when a super model-esque woman is cast purely for sex appeal? Seriously, characters have non-plot related characteristics. Yet, somehow, it's only when a character is gay that everything about everyone needs to be directly related to the plot. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:884095001] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>No but every plot centric character to a story should have a reason to exist, gay or not.</quote> Why does this never come up when a super model-esque woman is cast purely for sex appeal? Seriously, characters have non-plot related characteristics. Yet, somehow, it's only when a character is gay that everything about everyone needs to be directly related to the plot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 08/03/17 2:25:46 AM #34:	Cookie Bag posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Cookie Bag posted... A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. So.....only like 2 games have bad been with it...but thanks A lot of games are like "blah blah blah oh right i'm also gay but i see you never asked but ill tell you anyways" when they try to do gay characters and it's honestly pathetic. Examples <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:884095122] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>A well written gay character is one that wont have the game throwing that he/she's gay at your face every possible turn tbh, everything else is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.</quote> So.....only like 2 games have bad been with it...but thanks</quote> A lot of games are like "blah blah blah oh right i'm also gay but i see you never asked but ill tell you anyways" when they try to do gay characters and it's honestly pathetic.</quote> Examples</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/03/17 2:30:43 AM #35:	Cookie Bag posted... gunplagirl posted... LordFarquad1312 posted... It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason. So gay people need a reason to exist? No but every plot centric character to a story should have a reason to exist, gay or not. Also good job comparing real life to fiction there. Did you know that a person can be discovered to be gay after the fact? Hell, the fact it wasn't central to his personality should please you. Then again, you probably also think gay people should hide it in real life. I'm sure you hate Oscar Wilde because he was so notorious for his sexuality --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:884095239] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote>It depends. Don't make a gay token character, but also, don't pull a JK Rowling and make a character gay for no reason.</quote> So gay people need a reason to exist?</quote> No but every plot centric character to a story should have a reason to exist, gay or not. Also good job comparing real life to fiction there.</quote> Did you know that a person can be discovered to be gay after the fact? Hell, the fact it wasn't central to his personality should please you. Then again, you probably also think gay people should hide it in real life. I'm sure you hate Oscar Wilde because he was so notorious for his sexuality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iron-Tarkus 08/03/17 2:38:10 AM #36:	gunplagirl posted... ArtVandelay posted... gunplagirl posted... GiftedACIII posted... Soren from Fire Emblem Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike. And ike's response to being reunited in a non-carried over file really hints at the ending with ranulf. And the way they talk in their support conversations in both games are way more obvious that ike likes him, too, when compared to soren. You're right that soren is into ike. Just, I'm pretty sure ike and ranulf are a thing. Didn't realize Ike was a furry smh --- So I stabbed him and took his humanity. <cite>Iron-Tarkus posted [p:884095420] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ArtVandelay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Soren from Fire Emblem</quote> Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game</quote> uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike.</quote> And ike's response to being reunited in a non-carried over file really hints at the ending with ranulf. And the way they talk in their support conversations in both games are way more obvious that ike likes him, too, when compared to soren. You're right that soren is into ike. Just, I'm pretty sure ike and ranulf are a thing.</quote> Didn't realize Ike was a furry smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/03/17 2:49:19 AM #37:	Iron-Tarkus posted... gunplagirl posted... ArtVandelay posted... gunplagirl posted... GiftedACIII posted... Soren from Fire Emblem Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike. And ike's response to being reunited in a non-carried over file really hints at the ending with ranulf. And the way they talk in their support conversations in both games are way more obvious that ike likes him, too, when compared to soren. You're right that soren is into ike. Just, I'm pretty sure ike and ranulf are a thing. Didn't realize Ike was a furry smh That or he's blue da bu di da bu di --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:884095670] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iron-Tarkus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ArtVandelay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Soren from Fire Emblem</quote> Ranulf is almost certainly the canon partner, at least for the first game</quote> uh, what? Soren only has eyes for Ike.</quote> And ike's response to being reunited in a non-carried over file really hints at the ending with ranulf. And the way they talk in their support conversations in both games are way more obvious that ike likes him, too, when compared to soren. You're right that soren is into ike. Just, I'm pretty sure ike and ranulf are a thing.</quote> Didn't realize Ike was a furry smh</quote> That or he's blue da bu di da bu di</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuzzylittlbunny 08/03/17 2:57:04 AM #38:	https://youtu.be/R42Pr6u4d9c?t=24s :3 --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya high five! <cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted [p:884095867] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/R42Pr6u4d9c?t=24s :3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duwstai 08/03/17 4:23:42 AM #39:	Agreed TC it was very well done. Made it more meaningful. His anguish over ~~his dead partner~~ was very heartfelt. --- balls <cite>Duwstai posted [p:884097777] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Agreed TC it was very well done. Made it more meaningful. His anguish over his dead partner was very heartfelt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superXY 08/03/17 9:30:24 AM #40:	Dash_Harber posted... superXY posted... "I'm okay with homosexuals in the media, but only if they don't talk about it, and never do anything homosexual on screen" I'm gay, dumbass. --- The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. <cite>superXY posted [p:884104895] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>superXY posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm okay with homosexuals in the media, but only if they don't talk about it, and never do anything homosexual on screen"</quote></quote> I'm gay, dumbass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 08/03/17 9:43:47 AM #41:	I'm pretty sure Dumbledore sexuality was hinted at in the books too. :v He had an unrequited crush on Griwendwal (sp?). It is just that since he's an old man wizard who runs a magic school, his sexuality never comes up. I mean, why would it? --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:884105404] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure Dumbledore sexuality was hinted at in the books too. :v He had an unrequited crush on Griwendwal (sp?). It is just that since he's an old man wizard who runs a magic school, his sexuality never comes up. I mean, why would it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 08/03/17 10:47:11 AM #42:	Blue_Inigo posted... Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle? Like Kratos in God of War, where you repeatedly press triangle to plow a chick Or straight characters kissing, including numerous romantic subplots or "a winner is you" screen where Peach and Mario's face smash together with little hearts fluttering up ~ Really the only way to make a "good" gay character is also to make them one of the main characters. Side characters don't get enough screen time for development so they're 2D out of the gate. That said, I like Lala Escargo out of P5. Literally an overweight drag queen bartender, with a fake name and everything. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/855636840744980480/PSQ7g-sQ.jpg --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:884107978] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle?</quote> Like Kratos in God of War, where you repeatedly press triangle to plow a chick Or straight characters kissing, including numerous romantic subplots or "a winner is you" screen where Peach and Mario's face smash together with little hearts fluttering up ~ Really the only way to make a "good" gay character is also to make them one of the main characters. Side characters don't get enough screen time for development so they're 2D out of the gate. That said, I like Lala Escargo out of P5. Literally an overweight drag queen bartender, with a fake name and everything. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/855636840744980480/PSQ7g-sQ.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/03/17 11:41:16 AM #43:	superXY posted... Dash_Harber posted... superXY posted... "I'm okay with homosexuals in the media, but only if they don't talk about it, and never do anything homosexual on screen" I'm gay, dumbass. That doesn't mean you can't be a jerk about it. Seriously, no one has provided any examples of characters that do what you said they do. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:884110402] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>superXY posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>superXY posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm okay with homosexuals in the media, but only if they don't talk about it, and never do anything homosexual on screen"</quote></quote> I'm gay, dumbass.</quote> That doesn't mean you can't be a jerk about it. Seriously, no one has provided any examples of characters that do what you said they do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 08/03/17 11:50:23 AM #44:	Bill was nuanced and sincere, yes. But why are we always packaging our gayness for the consumption of straight people? Let's get some queens in these games who are here to snatch wigs, slay bussy, and smite evil. You don't have to be gay to appreciate a bad bitch. People love to hate on Dorian and Iron Bull from DA:I, but those character decisions took balls. And Bioware only took them because they knew their fanbase would have their back. There are so many pluralities of gay and queer expression that struggle to even reach the silver screen, so I know to be realistic. Still, I want to see us take more risks here. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:884110791] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Bill was nuanced and sincere, yes. But why are we always packaging our gayness for the consumption of straight people? Let's get some queens in these games who are here to snatch wigs, slay bussy, and smite evil. You don't have to be gay to appreciate a bad bitch. People love to hate on Dorian and Iron Bull from DA:I, but those character decisions took balls. And Bioware only took them because they knew their fanbase would have their back. There are so many pluralities of gay and queer expression that struggle to even reach the silver screen, so I know to be realistic. Still, I want to see us take more risks here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/03/17 11:52:08 AM #45:	Blue_Inigo posted... Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle? This reminded me of that show Chozen. The show itself was "eh" but one of the biggest reasons people complained about it was because the main character was openly gay and spent almost every episode hitting on, harrassing and fucking other men. So viewers had issues with that. And I'm like, dude, the show came on literally right after Archer. Another character who does pretty much the exact same thing but with women. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:884110884] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Why is it ok for a straight dude to be in your face about wanting to bang people but gays must always be subtle?</quote> This reminded me of that show Chozen. The show itself was "eh" but one of the biggest reasons people complained about it was because the main character was openly gay and spent almost every episode hitting on, harrassing and fucking other men. So viewers had issues with that. And I'm like, dude, the show came on literally right after Archer. Another character who does pretty much the exact same thing but with women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/03/17 11:53:24 AM #46:	hollow_shrine posted... People love to hate on Dorian and Iron Bull from DA:I Do you mean the characters themselves or their relationship? --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:884110954] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>People love to hate on Dorian and Iron Bull from DA:I</quote> Do you mean the characters themselves or their relationship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 08/03/17 11:58:43 AM #47:	UnholyMudcrab posted... hollow_shrine posted... People love to hate on Dorian and Iron Bull from DA:I Do you mean the characters themselves or their relationship? The characters. I can't imagine anyone who liked their relationship didn't already like the the characters, or that anyone who disliked any aspect of them didn't also dislike their pairing later in the plot. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:884111158] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>People love to hate on Dorian and Iron Bull from DA:I</quote> Do you mean the characters themselves or their relationship?</quote> The characters. I can't imagine anyone who liked their relationship didn't already like the the characters, or that anyone who disliked any aspect of them didn't also dislike their pairing later in the plot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 08/03/17 11:58:56 AM #48:	Dash_Harber posted... Seriously, no one has provided any examples of characters that do what you said they do. As in "It's fine that they're gay and all, but do they need to behave like a straight person would in an identical scenario?" (aka, why is THIS IN MY FAAAACE) In 1989, a full 11 years before the first scripted/televised gay kiss on Dawson's Creek, two gay men woke up together in Thirtysomething. But they didn't touch lips, so censors were okay with that, and all that it implied, even if it caused dismay to more conservative audiences. In the warped mind of the censor, two men kissing and actually showing affection was reserved for sticky back rooms in video rental stores. But two men waking up in post-coital bliss was fun for the whole family. http://www.newnownext.com/today-is-the-anniversary-of-thirtysomethings-strangers-episode/11/2007/ --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:884111172] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Seriously, no one has provided any examples of characters that do what you said they do.</quote> As in "It's fine that they're gay and all, but do they need to behave like a straight person would in an identical scenario?" (aka, why is THIS IN MY FAAAACE) In 1989, a full 11 years before the first scripted/televised gay kiss on Dawson's Creek, two gay men woke up together in Thirtysomething. But they didn't touch lips, so censors were okay with that, and all that it implied, even if it caused dismay to more conservative audiences. In the warped mind of the censor, two men kissing and actually showing affection was reserved for sticky back rooms in video rental stores. But two men waking up in post-coital bliss was fun for the whole family. http://www.newnownext.com/today-is-the-anniversary-of-thirtysomethings-strangers-episode/11/2007/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sojy 08/03/17 12:00:14 PM #49:	I didn't notice that he was gay and then I didn't get the joke Ellie made referencing him being gay. I also didn't catch that Ellie was gay. These interactive movies man. <cite>Sojy posted [p:884111243] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>I didn't notice that he was gay and then I didn't get the joke Ellie made referencing him being gay. I also didn't catch that Ellie was gay. These interactive movies man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 08/03/17 12:00:21 PM #50:	Kitt posted... This reminded me of that show Chozen. The show itself was "eh" but one of the biggest reasons people complained about it was because the main character was openly gay and spent almost every episode hitting on, harrassing and fucking other men. So viewers had issues with that. And I'm like, dude, the show came on literally right after Archer. Another character who does pretty much the exact same thing but with women. It wasn't that he was openly gay. He acted how straight people like to think gay people act, where they're all aggro, loud, and invasive. It wasn't a show for gay people. It was a show about gay people for straight people. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:884111252] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>This reminded me of that show Chozen. The show itself was "eh" but one of the biggest reasons people complained about it was because the main character was openly gay and spent almost every episode hitting on, harrassing and fucking other men. So viewers had issues with that. And I'm like, dude, the show came on literally right after Archer. Another character who does pretty much the exact same thing but with women.</quote> It wasn't that he was openly gay. He acted how straight people like to think gay people act, where they're all aggro, loud, and invasive. It wasn't a show for gay people. It was a show about gay people for straight people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 08/03/17 12:01:05 PM #51:	Olivier from trails in the sky is bi at least --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:884111290] in Bill from ... [t:75631261]...</cite> <quote>Olivier from trails in the sky is bi at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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