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boxington
08/01/17 7:14:09 PM
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...was when it turned out that Liquid Ocelot used a combo of hypnosis and nanomachines to take on the Liquid persona.

but not long before that, you find out something similar happened with Screaming Mantis and Psycho Mantis.

the thing is, though, the game made it feel as if Psycho Mantis' actual spirit lived on in Screaming Mantis, while Liquid's persona was just psychological/technological manipulation.

still a great game, IMO, but that part bothered me.
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TheDarkCircle
08/01/17 7:17:09 PM
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MGS is a mess
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boxington
08/01/17 8:14:08 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
MGS is a mess

I guess that it and I have something in common, then
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DarthAragorn
08/01/17 8:16:53 PM
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Also everything to do with Zero

Which was then made even worse by MGSV
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St0rmFury
08/01/17 8:17:36 PM
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Nanomachines, son.
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boxington
08/01/17 8:18:13 PM
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MGSV helped redeem Zero from what happened in MGS4, tbh.
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solosnake
08/01/17 8:18:38 PM
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MGS4 is garbage, just pretend like it doesnt exist
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boxington
08/01/17 8:22:32 PM
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solosnake posted...
MGS4 is garbage

gotta disagree
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boxington
08/01/17 9:23:16 PM
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kuwab0
08/01/17 10:15:29 PM
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AlisLandale
08/01/17 10:17:43 PM
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MGS4 acted like it was ashamed of the campiness of the earlier games while going the campiest the series has ever been.
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boxington
08/01/17 10:28:24 PM
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^ how?

kuwab0 posted...
Poor Cam Clarke wasn't in 4

indeed.
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boxington
08/01/17 11:05:33 PM
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Darmik
08/01/17 11:07:09 PM
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Wasn't there also some cliffhanger (The Patriots are from 100 years ago!) that lead to absolutely nothing?
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boxington
08/01/17 11:09:59 PM
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apocalyptic_4
08/01/17 11:10:39 PM
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The explanation for Vamp was the most disappointing tbh.

After that reveal I was ready to drop the game but I kept going.
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boxington
08/01/17 11:12:22 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
The explanation for Vamp was the most disappointing tbh.

After that reveal I was ready to drop the game but I kept going.

I mean, I understand why, but I wasn't a fan as to why everything spectacular had some explanation steeped in technology.

that's why the Screaming Mantis/Psycho Mantis thing stood out.
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Darmik
08/01/17 11:14:22 PM
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boxington posted...
^ you haven't played MGS3 or 4?


It seemed like it was some groundbreaking revelation but they weren't really relevant to anything were they? It was just Snake's squad in MGS3 for some reason which was pretty dumb.
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boxington
08/01/17 11:22:07 PM
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Darmik posted...
boxington posted...
^ you haven't played MGS3 or 4?


It seemed like it was some groundbreaking revelation but they weren't really relevant to anything were they? It was just Snake's squad in MGS3 for some reason which was pretty dumb.

I guess.

it made the world feel a lot smaller, at least.
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