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Capn Circus
08/01/17 8:14:15 PM
#102:


NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.

Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?

And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?

Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.


Are you talking about the heavy fall you took when Trump won the election?
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KarmaMuffin
08/01/17 8:18:45 PM
#103:


whitelytning posted...
Support trump and trash the Post all you want but putting your head in the sand about how the administration is actively trying to deceive us all is pathetic. They are lying to us all about information that either is or isn't important. Whether something happened or not, the fact that they can't tell us the truth is a problem no matter what political party you belong to.


They haven't stopped lying since they said he had the biggest inaugural crowd

Add in the constant firing and hiring of people and the daily leaks from inside, even if he didn't collude with Russia this administration is a disaster
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The Deadpool
08/01/17 8:19:01 PM
#104:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
You'd think that the full force of the mainstream media's investigatory journalism would have turned up something by now, right?


Like his Chief National Defense Advisor assuring a Russian diplomat that Trump would lift sanctions on Russia? Or multiple undisclosed meetings from members of his team? Or a secret meeting between his campaign and an agent of Putin spearheading the effort to get a law that hurts Putin overturned?

Is that the sort of thing you'd expect them to uncover? Like, enough stuff to get a special prosecutor to start an official investigation into the matter? And Congress to be doing their own investigation as well?

Is that the kind of thing you expect the media to do?
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:20:20 PM
#105:


Capn Circus posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.

Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?

And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?

Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.


Are you talking about the heavy fall you took when Trump won the election?

Still clinging to the one bright point of your sad, sad existence, I see. I would pity you if you werent such a venomous person.
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Capn Circus
08/01/17 8:20:49 PM
#106:


I don't always have access to the WAPO, but I'll let Trump's prior words sum up the article for me:

"The leaks are real, the news is fake"

Meaning it's another hyped up, highly speculative article based off a minuscule fact. And it's an article that likely mentions other hyped up, highly speculative "stories" from the recent past to paint a picture of Trump definitely colluding with Russian.

How right am I?
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:22:50 PM
#107:


Capn Circus posted...
I don't always have access to the WAPO, but I'll let Trump's prior words sum up the article for me:

"The leaks are real, the news is fake"

Meaning it's another hyped up, highly speculative article based off a minuscule fact. And it's an article that likely mentions other hyped up, highly speculative "stories" from the recent past to paint a picture of Trump definitely colluding with Russian.

How right am I?

About as right as you always are, which is to say, literally not at all.
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Sephiroth1288
08/01/17 8:23:31 PM
#108:


The Deadpool posted...

Like his Chief National Defense Advisor assuring a Russian diplomat that Trump would lift sanctions on Russia? Or multiple undisclosed meetings from members of his team? Or a secret meeting between his campaign and an agent of Putin spearheading the effort to get a law that hurts Putin overturned?

Wow, if a meeting is enough to convince you that wrongdoing had occurred then how come you were so violently supportive of Hillary in the Benghazi scandal?

The Deadpool posted...
Is that the sort of thing you'd expect them to uncover?

I would expect them to uncover something along the lines of "Here's an email in which Trump's team talks about interfering with the electoral process with a Russian official"

But the best you got is "They met with someone from Russia! Clearly they discussed committing crimes!"
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Darmik
08/01/17 8:23:49 PM
#109:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Uhh isn't the investigation still ongoing? It's not up to reporters to charge him.

But they have been desperately seeking evidence to impeach him for a year now and they still haven't got anything.

You'd think that the full force of the mainstream media's investigatory journalism would have turned up something by now, right?


Even if they have all they would do is report on it. It's not up to the media to impeach Trump.
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s0nicfan
08/01/17 8:24:27 PM
#110:


Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...

He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.

Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.


I refer you to my first post:
s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.


I'm just curious. If basically indisputable proof came out today that Trump colluded, how much time do you think it would take before indictment?


Oh, it'd take a while, but it's been 8 months. How much longer are you going to give them before maybe acknowledging they don't have a case?
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Capn Circus
08/01/17 8:24:32 PM
#111:


NadYobWoc posted...
Capn Circus posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.

Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?

And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?

Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.


Are you talking about the heavy fall you took when Trump won the election?

Still clinging to the one bright point of your sad, sad existence, I see. I would pity you if you werent such a venomous person.


You might be doing some projecting there. I'm not the one creating a bunch of alts on a message board still whining about Trump and Hillary losing the election.
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Sephiroth1288
08/01/17 8:24:42 PM
#112:


Darmik posted...
Even if they have all they would do is report on it.

So have they?
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:26:21 PM
#113:


s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...

He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.

Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.


I refer you to my first post:
s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.


I'm just curious. If basically indisputable proof came out today that Trump colluded, how much time do you think it would take before indictment?


Oh, it'd take a while, but it's been 8 months. How much longer are you going to give them before maybe acknowledging they don't have a case?

Yeah like how the watergate prosecutors gave up after a few months.
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Anteaterking
08/01/17 8:27:06 PM
#114:


s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...

He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.

Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.


I refer you to my first post:
s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.


I'm just curious. If basically indisputable proof came out today that Trump colluded, how much time do you think it would take before indictment?


Oh, it'd take a while, but it's been 8 months. How much longer are you going to give them before maybe acknowledging they don't have a case?


Why not just wait for the congressional investigations and Mueller's investigation to be done?
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:27:17 PM
#115:


Capn Circus posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Capn Circus posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.

Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?

And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?

Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.


Are you talking about the heavy fall you took when Trump won the election?

Still clinging to the one bright point of your sad, sad existence, I see. I would pity you if you werent such a venomous person.


You might be doing some projecting there. I'm not the one creating a bunch of alts on a message board still whining about Trump and Hillary losing the election.

This is my only account. Thr fact that you need to resort to pathetic gamefaqs status attacks speaks volumes.
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prince_leo
08/01/17 8:27:30 PM
#116:


what gets me about the lies is that often times they are either inconsequential or easily verified
like take for example the trans ban tweet. Trump said he talked to his generals, but literally no one knows who he's referring to. even the Pentagon is like "we don't have any record of this"

it's like during the campaign (and still now, really) where he'll make a point and then follow it up with "and I have people call me and tell me 'you know Donald you were so right about that' and so I know I'm right" where most likely there's no one calling him
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P4wn4g3
08/01/17 8:28:29 PM
#117:


Hey we can finally start the countdown on his presidency, lazy fuckers are finally getting to the meat of things.
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scar the 1
08/01/17 8:28:53 PM
#118:


Hey Mal, since our conversation drowned in the noise, let me highlight a particular segment of my earlier post about evidence:
scar the 1 posted...
At the other extreme is evidence that is merely consistent with an assertion but does not rule out other, contradictory assertions, as in circumstantial evidence.

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Keith_Valentine
08/01/17 8:29:28 PM
#119:


NadYobWoc posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...

He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.

Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.


I refer you to my first post:
s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.


I'm just curious. If basically indisputable proof came out today that Trump colluded, how much time do you think it would take before indictment?


Oh, it'd take a while, but it's been 8 months. How much longer are you going to give them before maybe acknowledging they don't have a case?

Yeah like how the watergate prosecutors gave up after a few months.


Watergate was weak. This Russia shit is weak.

Shut up and get stuff done.
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Capn Circus
08/01/17 8:29:33 PM
#120:


NadYobWoc posted...
Capn Circus posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Capn Circus posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.

Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?

And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?

Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.


Are you talking about the heavy fall you took when Trump won the election?

Still clinging to the one bright point of your sad, sad existence, I see. I would pity you if you werent such a venomous person.


You might be doing some projecting there. I'm not the one creating a bunch of alts on a message board still whining about Trump and Hillary losing the election.

This is my only account. Thr fact that you need to resort to pathetic gamefaqs status attacks speaks volumes.


Only account after all your others got banned? Or first time on GameFAQs? I don't buy it.
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s0nicfan
08/01/17 8:29:48 PM
#121:


Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...

He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.

Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.


I refer you to my first post:
s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.


I'm just curious. If basically indisputable proof came out today that Trump colluded, how much time do you think it would take before indictment?


Oh, it'd take a while, but it's been 8 months. How much longer are you going to give them before maybe acknowledging they don't have a case?


Why not just wait for the congressional investigations and Mueller's investigation to be done?


Does that apply to both presuming guilt AND innocence, or am i the only one expected to sit back and wait while the other side screeches "guilty" for 4 years?
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Sephiroth1288
08/01/17 8:31:00 PM
#122:


scar the 1 posted...
Hey Mal, since our conversation drowned in the noise, let me highlight a particular segment of my earlier post about evidence:

When people ask for evidence for something, they usually mean evidence that directly supports the assertion.

So does such evidence exist for the Russia conspiracy or not
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scar the 1
08/01/17 8:33:20 PM
#123:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Hey Mal, since our conversation drowned in the noise, let me highlight a particular segment of my earlier post about evidence:

When people ask for evidence for something, they usually mean evidence that directly supports the assertion.

So does such evidence exist for the Russia conspiracy or not

Oh I see, you'll move the goalposts? Wether evidence strong enough to lead to a conviction exists, we'll likely find out a lot later.
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chill02
08/01/17 8:33:35 PM
#124:


Sad!
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Darmik
08/01/17 8:36:17 PM
#125:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Even if they have all they would do is report on it.

So have they?


Yeah. Otherwise we wouldn't know anything about this meeting a year ago.
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MemeDaddy
08/01/17 8:39:12 PM
#126:


literally fake news
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The Deadpool
08/01/17 8:42:50 PM
#127:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wow, if a meeting is enough


Undisclosed meetings.

One of which involved directly undermining US sanctions.

But the important part is undisclosed.
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Sephiroth1288
08/01/17 8:46:04 PM
#128:


The Deadpool posted...
Undisclosed meetings.

One of which involved directly undermining US sanctions.

But the important part is undisclosed.

So therefore they were regarding rigging the election?

I hope you don't indulge in this kind of wishful thinking in all aspects of your life. Those sorts of people are really annoying.
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Darmik
08/01/17 8:46:58 PM
#129:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Undisclosed meetings.

One of which involved directly undermining US sanctions.

But the important part is undisclosed.

So therefore they were regarding rigging the election?

I hope you don't indulge in this kind of wishful thinking in all aspects of your life. Those sorts of people are really annoying.


Where did he say that?
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Kim Kusanagi
08/01/17 8:47:23 PM
#130:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Find us some smoke first, not meaningless crap like this.

This is lookin pretty smoky already.

The fact that you think it's meaningless does not make it so.

Telling your kid how to handle the press is not smoke.

Holy shit, if you people cared this much about possible coverups then Hillary would be in jail 10 years ago


But but bUT but but HILLARY!!!!!!!!
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Sephiroth1288
08/01/17 8:48:15 PM
#131:


Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Undisclosed meetings.

One of which involved directly undermining US sanctions.

But the important part is undisclosed.

So therefore they were regarding rigging the election?

I hope you don't indulge in this kind of wishful thinking in all aspects of your life. Those sorts of people are really annoying.


Where did he say that?

He brought it up after I asked for evidence for the Russia conspiracy, so you can't blame me for interpreting that to mean he thinks they're related.
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muchdran
08/01/17 8:50:56 PM
#132:


Did Russia make people vote for Trump?
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:51:20 PM
#133:


@Capn_Circus

I closed my last account, it was CowboyDan. And I dont care what you buy, you're a traitor who only deserves contempt and dismissal
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muchdran
08/01/17 8:51:25 PM
#134:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Find us some smoke first, not meaningless crap like this.

This is lookin pretty smoky already.

The fact that you think it's meaningless does not make it so.

Telling your kid how to handle the press is not smoke.

Holy shit, if you people cared this much about possible coverups then Hillary would be in jail 10 years ago


But but bUT but but HILLARY!!!!!!!!

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Darmik
08/01/17 8:52:29 PM
#135:


Let's go through the defense of this step by step
1. There was no Russian meeting. Fake news.
2. There was a meeting with a Russian but it wasn't important. Fake news.
3. There was a meeting with a Russian and Donald Trump Jr was there but it was about adoption not about anything shady. Fake news.
4. There was a meeting with a Russian and Donald Trump Jr was there and he admitted it wasn't about adoption but it wasn't illegal. It also has nothing to do with Donald Trump. Fake news.
5. There was a meeting with a Russian and Donald Trump Jr was there and he admitted it wasn't about adoption but it wasn't illegal and Donald Trump may have told him to lie about it but it wasn't illegal. Fake news.

I guess we're just gonna settle down on the "it's not illegal" until someone attempts to charge him with something.
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:53:42 PM
#136:


Darmik posted...
Let's go through the defense of this step by step
1. There was no Russian meeting. Fake news.
2. There was a meeting with a Russian but it wasn't important. Fake news.
3. There was a meeting with a Russian and Donald Trump Jr was there but it was about adoption not about anything shady. Fake news.
4. There was a meeting with a Russian and Donald Trump Jr was there and he admitted it wasn't about adoption but it wasn't illegal. It also has nothing to do with Donald Trump. Fake news.
5. There was a meeting with a Russian and Donald Trump Jr was there and he admitted it wasn't about adoption but it wasn't illegal and Donald Trump may have told him to lie about it but it wasn't illegal. Fake news.

I guess we're just gonna settle down on the "it's not illegal" until someone attempts to charge him with something.

These people are insane.
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muchdran
08/01/17 8:54:21 PM
#137:


This is why Trump will get another four years.
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:54:58 PM
#138:


muchdran posted...
This is why Trump will get another four years.

Meaningless words from a meaningless person.
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Sephiroth1288
08/01/17 8:57:20 PM
#139:


Darmik posted...
it wasn't illegal

^ This is literally the only part that matters.
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:58:23 PM
#140:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
it wasn't illegal

^ This is literally the only part that matters.

You traitors have incredibly low standards.
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NadYobWoc
08/01/17 8:59:35 PM
#141:


Regardless, Russian collusion wont likely be what brings Trump down. His finances will do that.
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Darmik
08/01/17 8:59:47 PM
#142:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
it wasn't illegal

^ This is literally the only part that matters.


So it only matters if he gets caught right?
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The Deadpool
08/01/17 9:09:40 PM
#143:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Undisclosed meetings.

One of which involved directly undermining US sanctions.

But the important part is undisclosed.

So therefore they were regarding rigging the election?


No. Therefore they deserve investigation.

As a rule of thumb, people tend not to hide innocuous things. Especially not in security clearance forms.
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FrenchCrunch
08/01/17 9:10:37 PM
#144:


@Giant_Aspirin if it's what you say I love it
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twitterfriends
08/01/17 9:22:30 PM
#145:


Dont go thinking Mike Pence is innocent either
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hockeybub89
08/01/17 9:25:00 PM
#146:


Trump obviously just orcehstrated this coverup to troll the mainstream media for a while and further expose their fake newsiness.

4D Chess! #MAGA
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The Deadpool
08/01/17 9:28:08 PM
#147:


My favorite part of the story is when Trump, publically, asks Russian hackers to hack Hillary's emails the day after Donald Trump Jr has a meeting with a Russian about dirt on Hillary.

But hey. No need to investigate further. Everything sounds normal here...
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muchdran
08/01/17 9:28:35 PM
#148:


NadYobWoc posted...
muchdran posted...
This is why Trump will get another four years.

Meaningless words from a meaningless person.

That's the best you have?
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muchdran
08/01/17 9:29:14 PM
#149:


The Deadpool posted...
My favorite part of the story is when Trump, publically, asks Russian hackers to hack Hillary's emails the day after Donald Trump Jr has a meeting with a Russian about dirt on Hillary.

But hey. No need to investigate further. Everything sounds normal here...

What was the quote?
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iPhone_7
08/01/17 9:41:47 PM
#150:


The Trump fiascoministration is pure entertainment, thank god they're incompetent at working togethor and preventing leaks.
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iPhone_7
08/01/17 9:44:13 PM
#151:


On July 27, Donald Trump created one of the most surreal moments of the presidential campaign, when he encouraged Russians to hack his opponent's email.

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you'll be able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said, speaking about Hillary Clinton's deleted emails from her private email account from her time as secretary of state. "I think you'll probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

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