Current Events > HBO wants to make a show about Da South winning da Civil War

(+) Yeah! (+)

the premise is cool and anyone offended by this is a joke human being
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I misread the poll and accidentally put no.
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I think a lot of the outrage is that this is going to be a very high profile show. It's like the spiritual sequel to Game of Thrones. Not in terms of story, but it's riding that show's coat tails because it's coming from the GoT creative team. So you can expect HBO to dump a ton of money into it. It's not like some Amazon Prime series that no one is watching. This train wreck of a show probably wiped 3 potentially good HBO shows off the budget.

And like I said in the other thread, people are tired of seeing a divided America. We spend all day with CNN vs Fox News and Republicans vs Democrats. Nobody wants to unwind with a dumb downed version of that on HBO. People tune into HBO to escape that shit.

BeyondWalls posted...

people are tired of seeing a divided America.

A show about alternate history is now "seeing a divided America"

Can you reach any harder?
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Slavery wouldn't still be happening. This show is going to be totally race baiting and nothing beyond that.


But shit the economy would be exploding like crazy only thing is literally every other UN country would wreck the US shit for being an advanced country wth slaves
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LittleRoyal posted...

Slavery wouldn't still be happening. This show is going to be totally race baiting and nothing beyond that.


But shit the economy would be exploding like crazy only thing is literally every other UN country would wreck the US shit for being an advanced country wth slaves

Like I said, did the rest of the world just drop off the map? Are we pretending that every other country in the world wouldn't have a trade embargo on the South? Was there an alien insect that destroyed all the cotton crops except in the Southern US? Why the fuck would anyone trade with the South for anything? The whole region would be embargoed to the point where the South was the poorest region on Earth. It wouldn't make financial sense to use slaves. Besides, what are these slaves doing, driving harvesters? Are we pretending that automation didn't happen too? This whole premise is so dumb.

Cheater87 posted...

I misread the poll and accidentally put no.

He does that.
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How often does he misread a poll?
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Still stupid. What would you have modern slaves do? "Johnson, go fetch me my fax!"
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Skywalker82 posted...

Still stupid. What would you have modern slaves do? "Johnson, go fetch me my fax!"

Because there's no job slaves would be doing today other than fetch faxes...
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Skywalker82 posted...

Still stupid. What would you have modern slaves do? "Johnson, go fetch me my fax!"

Gardening, shopping, cleaning, errands, etc.

Seriously guys, watch CSA, it was hilarious. The U.S. works hard to conquer the entire western hemisphere (including Mexico and the Caribbean), they side with Nazis in WWII, Soviets control Europe and places an embargo on the U.S., etc.
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Why are leftwingers upset about this? Seems like rightwingers should be upset about the idea that if nobody had forced them to stop they would still keep black people as slaves in the current year.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Why are leftwingers upset about this? Seems like rightwingers should be upset about the idea that if nobody had forced them to stop they would still keep black people as slaves in the current year.

Most people are not upset. Most can accept fiction as fiction.
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The only people bitching are the ones who wouldn't watch it anyway, so I hope they go all out
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creativerealms posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Why are leftwingers upset about this? Seems like rightwingers should be upset about the idea that if nobody had forced them to stop they would still keep black people as slaves in the current year.

Most people are not upset. Most can accept fiction as fiction.

This whole premise is dumb as multiple people mentioned.

The un would not allow a civilized country to have slaves. Even if America didn't come to their sense alone which they would have.

Plus let's face it the show is going to have black people being treated like trash and killed and half the whites people will have slaves


9% of white people owned slaves. And most of them didn't beat or hurt the slaves.

54% of freed black people owned slaves. Think they're gonna address that?
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Now I agree that had the confederate won chances are slavery still would have been abolished by now. Yet this is just a what if it could suck but I like what if stories so I want to see what they can do.
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LittleRoyal posted...

The un would not allow a civilized country to have slaves. Even if America didn't come to their sense alone which they would have.

You presume the UN still exists in a world where the south won the civil war. You also presume the US would be considered a civilized country. You also forget that real countries today still have slavery and the UN doesn't do shit about them.
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The confederate winning the civil war would probably only be one of many changes in this world.
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s0nicfan posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

The un would not allow a civilized country to have slaves. Even if America didn't come to their sense alone which they would have.

You presume the UN still exists in a world where the south won the civil war. You also presume the US would be considered a civilized country. You also forget that real countries today still have slavery and the UN doesn't do shit about them.

UNwould exist. US would be even more powerful but less moral
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LittleRoyal posted...

UNwould exist. US would be even more powerful but less moral

This. This is why they get upset. They don't know, or willingly don't understand, what fiction is. This is a 'what if' scenario of the creator's choosing....

You don't get to dictate how the world would be in this made up scenario.
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ZCheveyo posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

UNwould exist. US would be even more powerful but less moral

This. This is why they get upset. They don't know, or willingly don't understand, what fiction is. This is a 'what if' scenario of the creator's choosing....

You don't get to dictate how the world would be in this made up scenario.

TC said they only made one change.

So I'm following that change. If they want to change even more it's fine though dumb


And like I said only 9% of white people owned slaves. And people were getting less and less okay with it in the south too.
54% of freed black people owned slaves.
People rarely beat or injured slaves.


None of those will be accurately portrayed just watch. It will be some very race baiting nonsense.

If I'm wrong link this post and I'll call myself dumb.
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_Near_ posted...

Skywalker82 posted...

Still stupid. What would you have modern slaves do? "Johnson, go fetch me my fax!"

Gardening, shopping, cleaning, errands, etc.

"Johnson, grab me my dry cleaning and make sure you tip the lady this time!"

No body is going to finance a slave for $12,000 with no money down to tend rose bushes. Whats going to happen to all the Mexicans that do this stuff already in real life?

Actually this concept is pretty crazy. Would they have tv commercials like used car salesmen?

"Come on down to Wacky Will's Slave Lot. We got slaves at low low prices. We're practically giving them away. I'm making no money on these slaves, I'm almost a slave my self. We got the best slaves in Cooks County. Our slave will have you eating right with Vegan meals. Want more followers on INSTAGRAM, but don't want to hit the gym? No problem we have slaves in our inventory that will photoshop those pounds right off."
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Regressives need to calm the fuck down. Do they seriously think that the slavers are going to the heroes and that slavery will be glorified?

Get a grip.
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Skywalker82 posted...

"Come on down to Wacky Will's Slave Lot. We got slaves at low low prices. We're practically giving them away. I'm making no money on these slaves, I'm almost a slave my self. We got the best slaves in Cooks County. Our slave will have you eating right with Vegan meals. Want more followers on INSTAGRAM, but don't want to hit the gym? No problem we have slaves in our inventory that will photoshop those pounds right off."

Lmfao
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

I can't get behind such a ridiculous premise.

The south was never going to win. As Shelby Foote said the North fought with one arm behind their back, if it got bad they just had to remove the other arm.

If it got bad? You seem educated, was Antietam, Gettysburg, not bad enough for them to unloose the other arm?

I like Shelby, but I strongly disagree here. The Union was in serious peril at times; the extreme casualties led to public support for the war dwindling and many northerners wanting a truce (recognition of the CSA). They finally found a competent commander in Grant, and Sherman's ruthlessness, which finally won the war. The North sufferred from poor leadership throughout the war.
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gmanthebest posted...

Skywalker82 posted...

"Come on down to Wacky Will's Slave Lot. We got slaves at low low prices. We're practically giving them away. I'm making no money on these slaves, I'm almost a slave my self. We got the best slaves in Cooks County. Our slave will have you eating right with Vegan meals. Want more followers on INSTAGRAM, but don't want to hit the gym? No problem we have slaves in our inventory that will photoshop those pounds right off."

Lmfao

My sides

I don't see a problem. It would be like a what-if thing like Nazi modern day or something like that.
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Xelltrix posted...

I don't see a problem. It would be like a what-if thing like Nazi modern day or something like that.

Man in the High Castle looks pretty good. Too bad I don't have any way to watch it

Xelltrix posted...

I don't see a problem. It would be like a what-if thing like Nazi modern day or something like that.

That they'll portray it wrong. What happened was no good but don't lie about it.
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Why not? Always been a fan of alternate history media and you can't deny it's an interesting concept. Sure I'll watch it.

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

I can't get behind such a ridiculous premise.

The south was never going to win. As Shelby Foote said the North fought with one arm behind their back, if it got bad they just had to remove the other arm.

They will change how the war went to make it so that the south could have won. That is what alternate history is about. There is always a point in the timeline where something changes to allow the different history

A few idiots in the left =/= the whole left. Most of us have no problem with this. Stop labeling us with a couple loud SJWs.
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So, people that have a problem with this show, do you have a problem with this one too?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5980d6e2e4b02b36343e872d?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
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OrtegaTron posted...

So, people that have a problem with this show, do you have a problem with this one too?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5980d6e2e4b02b36343e872d?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Although you're not talking to me, I don't have a problem with either.
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OrtegaTron posted...

So, people that have a problem with this show, do you have a problem with this one too?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5980d6e2e4b02b36343e872d?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Lol freed slaves rapidly become the leaders of industry.


Idk about that plot point because they were just slaves like 10 minutes ago and not allowed a formal education
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LittleRoyal posted...

Xelltrix posted...

I don't see a problem. It would be like a what-if thing like Nazi modern day or something like that.

That they'll portray it wrong. What happened was no good but don't lie about it.

Huh?
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Yea don't see an issue with this. It could be interesting if it shows both sides and how they would have changed or adapted post-secession. All the people saying "the left is gonna riot over this!"...need to be careful though. I can't see type of show portraying the south in the best of light.

Xelltrix posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

Xelltrix posted...

I don't see a problem. It would be like a what-if thing like Nazi modern day or something like that.

That they'll portray it wrong. What happened was no good but don't lie about it.

Huh?

Slavery. It was not a good thing, but it wasn't literally beatings slaves, hanging them, every white person being racist.

I've said it already.
9% of whites owned slaves and most people didn't like it.
54% of freed blacks owned slaves

It was all about business. They made money from it so they liked it. They didn't hurt slaves because it was expensive. Economy was good, we weren't relying on others as much, because we got free labor. Very evil but very good for the government. We finally ended it and that's good.

If we never ended it we wouldn't get foreign trade, as much influence in UN and freed blacks would still own slaves AND those 9% of whites owning slaves wouldn't be popular people would hate it as public opinion was changing so much.

Idk what would happen with me. I'd probably be born in Vietnam and my parents would never come to America.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Yea don't see an issue with this. It could be interesting if it shows both sides and how they would have changed or adapted post-secession. All the people saying "the left is gonna riot over this!"...need to be careful though. I can't see type of show portraying the south in the best of light.

Yeah the rightwing south will go crazy if it gets made especially since the people that want it are the ones behind Game of Thrones. The show will be filled with torture and rape

Who cares its a TV show but people like this dude vvv

voldothegr8 posted...

I can already hear regressives lighting their torches and sharpening their pitchforks.

How unself aware of you to not realize that the only regressives are your sort. You'd whip out your dick at the thought of the south winning lmao.
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OrtegaTron posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

I can't get behind such a ridiculous premise.

The south was never going to win. As Shelby Foote said the North fought with one arm behind their back, if it got bad they just had to remove the other arm.

If it got bad? You seem educated, was Antietam, Gettysburg, not bad enough for them to unloose the other arm?

I like Shelby, but I strongly disagree here. The Union was in serious peril at times; the extreme casualties led to public support for the war dwindling and many northerners wanting a truce (recognition of the CSA). They finally found a competent commander in Grant, and Sherman's ruthlessness, which finally won the war. The North sufferred from poor leadership throughout the war.

They won Gettysburg, it ended the war for all practical purposes
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LittleRoyal posted...

I've said it already.
9% of whites owned slaves and most people didn't like it.
54% of freed blacks owned slaves

Where on Earth are you getting those statistics?
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

OrtegaTron posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

I can't get behind such a ridiculous premise.

The south was never going to win. As Shelby Foote said the North fought with one arm behind their back, if it got bad they just had to remove the other arm.

If it got bad? You seem educated, was Antietam, Gettysburg, not bad enough for them to unloose the other arm?

I like Shelby, but I strongly disagree here. The Union was in serious peril at times; the extreme casualties led to public support for the war dwindling and many northerners wanting a truce (recognition of the CSA). They finally found a competent commander in Grant, and Sherman's ruthlessness, which finally won the war. The North sufferred from poor leadership throughout the war.

They won Gettysburg, it ended the war for all practical purposes

Agreed,that was the turning point. So they decided to just let it go on for almost another year when they could've easily let out that other arm and ended it instantly. Hmm.
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OrtegaTron posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

OrtegaTron posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

I can't get behind such a ridiculous premise.

The south was never going to win. As Shelby Foote said the North fought with one arm behind their back, if it got bad they just had to remove the other arm.

If it got bad? You seem educated, was Antietam, Gettysburg, not bad enough for them to unloose the other arm?

I like Shelby, but I strongly disagree here. The Union was in serious peril at times; the extreme casualties led to public support for the war dwindling and many northerners wanting a truce (recognition of the CSA). They finally found a competent commander in Grant, and Sherman's ruthlessness, which finally won the war. The North sufferred from poor leadership throughout the war.

They won Gettysburg, it ended the war for all practical purposes

Agreed,that was the turning point. So they decided to just let it go on for almost another year when they could've easily let out that other arm and ended it instantly. Hmm.

The south fought until they couldn't. Ill give them that.
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creativerealms posted...

Right now we have an alternate reality TV show where the Nazi won world war two, and an alternate future show where women are enslaved in a fundamental Christian like society so why would this be going too far? It's not.

I am outta the loop, what shows are these?
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JayceeTHUNDER posted...

creativerealms posted...

Right now we have an alternate reality TV show where the Nazi won world war two, and an alternate future show where women are enslaved in a fundamental Christian like society so why would this be going too far? It's not.

I am outta the loop, what shows are these?

The Man in the High Castle and The Handmaiden's Tale. Both are supposed to be pretty good

I'm okay with it assuming it's done in a plausible way and doesn't diverge too much from reality.
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Eh, handmaiden's tale is pretty weak in my opinion.

though it's gotten great reviews.
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Axiom posted...

JayceeTHUNDER posted...

creativerealms posted...

Right now we have an alternate reality TV show where the Nazi won world war two, and an alternate future show where women are enslaved in a fundamental Christian like society so why would this be going too far? It's not.

I am outta the loop, what shows are these?

The Man in the High Castle and The Handmaiden's Tale. Both are supposed to be pretty good

Thanks for the reply
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