Poll of the Day > New Alabama Park causes OUTRAGE after they Banned FAT PEOPLE!! Are you Banned???

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Meushell
07/29/17 5:06:32 PM
#52:


Safety reasons? LOL Like others have said, if that were the case, it would be the same for every person. If that's not the case, then the ride was badly made, and no one should be on it.

Golden Road posted...
Those are unusually low weight limits. Aside from like kiddie rides, I've never seen weight limits that low before. It also seems really sketchy that men and women have different limits.

For safety reasons, though, it seems like you'd want the weight limit to be much higher than the average person's weight. I'd worry about how safe a ride is that had trouble handling 200 pound people.


Yeah. I don't see how a 205 man would feel safe if 200 is the limit for women, or anyone close to 200 (190's, 180's).
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dioxxys
07/29/17 6:46:01 PM
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Golden Road posted...
dioxxys posted...
What part of Men and Women are different physiologically, do you not you understand?

What part of Men and Women do not all have an identical build do you not understand? It's an arbitrary distinction.

"Yeah but! Not all Grass is green!"
Well when they design the ride with safety in mind, they are making it for the largest demographic possible, not too tall, not too short not too fat and not too skinny, an AVERAGE, they dont make it for niche body types.

A 200lb man may still be within bmi because he has dense muscle mass where as a 200lb woman will more likely be obese.
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Golden Road
07/29/17 9:37:22 PM
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dioxxys posted...
A 200lb man may still be within bmi because he has dense muscle mass where as a 200lb woman will more likely be obese.

A ride can't tell the difference between dense muscle mass or fat, like dense muscle mass isn't safer than fat!
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dioxxys
07/29/17 10:23:21 PM
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Golden Road posted...
dioxxys posted...
A 200lb man may still be within bmi because he has dense muscle mass where as a 200lb woman will more likely be obese.

A ride can't tell the difference between dense muscle mass or fat, like dense muscle mass isn't safer than fat!

But muscle can be dense where as fat takes up more volume
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Golden Road
07/29/17 11:25:28 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Golden Road posted...
dioxxys posted...
A 200lb man may still be within bmi because he has dense muscle mass where as a 200lb woman will more likely be obese.

A ride can't tell the difference between dense muscle mass or fat, like dense muscle mass isn't safer than fat!

But muscle can be dense where as fat takes up more volume

Try again. More dense is more dangerous than less dense. A more spread out weight distribution is safer.
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dioxxys
07/30/17 8:31:12 AM
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Golden Road posted...
dioxxys posted...
Golden Road posted...
dioxxys posted...
A 200lb man may still be within bmi because he has dense muscle mass where as a 200lb woman will more likely be obese.

A ride can't tell the difference between dense muscle mass or fat, like dense muscle mass isn't safer than fat!

But muscle can be dense where as fat takes up more volume

Try again. More dense is more dangerous than less dense. A more spread out weight distribution is safer.

but the safety restraints are have their efficiency maxed out when dealing with its intended target audience which is fit, in shape average people, not gelatinous blobs.
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ninjabay
07/30/17 8:42:47 AM
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A 200 pound woman will take a lot more space than a 200 pound man, normally and engineers work by the regular cases, it's something called Ergonomics.

I doubt they are afraid the bench will break
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Golden Road
07/30/17 2:39:08 PM
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ninjabay posted...
A 200 pound woman will take a lot more space than a 200 pound man, normally and engineers work by the regular cases, it's something called Ergonomics.

I doubt they are afraid the bench will break

In that case, why have the weight limit at all? Why not just go by how they fit in the ride?

And a lot of people still don't seem to realize not all men and women are the same. Like a 200 pound woman who's 6 foot tall will probably be thinner than a 200 pound man who's 5 foot tall. It's still completely arbitrary to make the gender distinction.
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SunWuKung420
07/30/17 2:53:34 PM
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Nope.
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Revelation34
07/30/17 2:58:46 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
You do know in general men and woman are different right? This includes size and weight. This is nothing new.


If you're fat, you're fat. Gender isn't going to change that.
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dioxxys
07/30/17 8:27:28 PM
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One of the main morphological differences between men and women is the greater amount of fat that women carry; this softens the outline of the muscles, more or less erases the osseous indicators, and rounds out the surfaces while creating characteristic folds and grooves.

Fat in normal women represents between 18% and 20% of body weight, whereas in men it represents only 10% to 15%. The reason for this difference is that women at some point in their lives may nourish a fetus and then a baby from their own reserves, so women have to stock energy in the form of fat in anticipation of future pregnancies (and must stock even more energy during the last two trimesters of pregnancy).

For various reasons, different fat distributions occur in women according to climate. In hot countries, the fat is localized on the buttocks (black Africans), on the hips (Mediterraneans), and around the navel (certain Asians). This distribution avoids covering the woman with a hot coat of fat that would be difficult to bear and inefficient for thermoregulation during hot periods. In cold countries, the distribution of fat is more uniform, which provides for better protection during rigorous winters. However the fat is distributed, its main function is for the survival of the species as it provides for survival of the woman and her offspring during times of scarcity.

It is important to note that all healthy people have fat reserves necessary for the proper functioning of their bodies. Obsession with obesity or the need to follow deviant aesthetic fashions should not lead to the complete elimination of fat. In fact, the almost complete disappearance of fat can lead to serious hormonal problems involving the cessation of the period (amenorrhea, which is a temporary absence of ovulation and therefore momentary sterility), as this means has been put in place during evolution to avoid bringing progeny into the world that the female could not nourish with her own organic reserves.
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Golden Road
07/30/17 10:58:35 PM
#63:


So you know how to copy and paste. Do you know how to apply any of that to make your point, though, 'cause I have no idea what your point is.
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_AdjI_
07/30/17 11:08:13 PM
#64:


dioxxys posted...
adjl posted...
Except for the part where they're sitting in the same seats. The girders don't get weaker when women line up for the ride, nor do the restraints get any tighter.


Jesus

What part of Men and Women are different physiologically, do you not you understand?


If it's a weight thing, those physiological differences aren't going to matter at all (maybe slightly, because the weight will be distributed in a slightly different manner, but these things aren't engineered so tightly as to be affected by that). If it's a girth thing, then a 40-inch waist on a man is exactly the same size as a 40-inch waist on a woman. The only real difference that arises there is that men typically know their waist size already because of how pants are sold, while women's clothes are more often sold by dress sizes and they're therefore less likely to know their waist. That's not significant enough to warrant different weight criteria.
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ninjabay
07/31/17 7:07:33 AM
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it deserves different weight criteria because, normally, women weigh less so a fat woman will weigh less than a fat man.

I get that the weight system isn't the best way to do this type of security measures because they can weigh more the limit and not be obese or fit the ride but i don't think they are really weighing people at the security gates
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Zareth
07/31/17 11:16:19 AM
#66:


Not allowing people on certain rides if they don't meet height/weight restrictions is fine, but banning them from the park entirely? That's bullshit.
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Nade Duck
07/31/17 11:25:34 AM
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a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.

Zareth posted...
Not allowing people on certain rides if they don't meet height/weight restrictions is fine, but banning them from the park entirely? That's bullshit.

agreed with this tho.
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Revelation34
07/31/17 2:27:37 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.


They seem to think that 500 pounds is different depending on the gender of the person.
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dreamsicle
07/31/17 3:18:51 PM
#69:


I'm 6 ft 4 in and if I were banned from Walt Disney World (using that as an example that means something to me personally) I'd be pretty sad.
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ninjabay
08/01/17 8:35:45 AM
#70:


Revelation34 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.


They seem to think that 500 pounds is different depending on the gender of the person.


No

People are saying that a 500 pounds woman is fatter than a 500 pounds man, normally, because men, normally, weigh more than women so, if they have the same weight the woman tend to be fatter.

However i don't agree with not letting them even enter the park, banning them from taking the rides is more than acceptable
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Llamachama
08/01/17 10:57:19 AM
#71:


So much salt in this thread.

High sodium diets are not good for you.
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Revelation34
08/01/17 1:16:38 PM
#72:


ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.


They seem to think that 500 pounds is different depending on the gender of the person.


No

People are saying that a 500 pounds woman is fatter than a 500 pounds man, normally, because men, normally, weigh more than women so, if they have the same weight the woman tend to be fatter.

However i don't agree with not letting them even enter the park, banning them from taking the rides is more than acceptable


That's not how weight works.
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ninjabay
08/01/17 5:38:33 PM
#73:


Revelation34 posted...
ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.


They seem to think that 500 pounds is different depending on the gender of the person.


No

People are saying that a 500 pounds woman is fatter than a 500 pounds man, normally, because men, normally, weigh more than women so, if they have the same weight the woman tend to be fatter.

However i don't agree with not letting them even enter the park, banning them from taking the rides is more than acceptable


That's not how weight works.


Actually it is

That's why the average not fat women weighs around 55 kg and men around 75
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ernieforss
08/01/17 5:49:40 PM
#74:


how tall do you have to be to wear size 18 cloths?
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Golden Road
08/01/17 6:02:20 PM
#75:


ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
That's not how weight works.

Actually it is

That's why the average not fat women weighs around 55 kg and men around 75

If a ride has trouble handling a 200 pound person who has a lot of fat, then it's also going to have trouble handling a 200 pound person who has a lot of muscle. The ride itself doesn't care why someone is 200 pounds.
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Meushell
08/01/17 6:14:58 PM
#76:


ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.


They seem to think that 500 pounds is different depending on the gender of the person.


No

People are saying that a 500 pounds woman is fatter than a 500 pounds man, normally, because men, normally, weigh more than women so, if they have the same weight the woman tend to be fatter.

However i don't agree with not letting them even enter the park, banning them from taking the rides is more than acceptable


That's not how weight works.


Actually it is

That's why the average not fat women weighs around 55 kg and men around 75

The average man is also usually taller than the average woman, but that's not always the case, and that's why these rules are biased.

A 5'11", 200 pound woman cannot go for "safety reasons," but it's safe for a man of the same height and weight? That's bullshit, and you probably know that.
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HillChange
08/01/17 6:32:25 PM
#77:


Y'all are ignoring the most basic physiological difference between men and women: women would generally exceed the limits of shoulder restraints at lower weights than men because of boobs.
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OhhhJa
08/01/17 6:51:11 PM
#78:


Either way, I'm only 180 but I'm not getting on any ride that they say can't handle more than 200 lbs
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Golden Road
08/01/17 8:26:35 PM
#79:


HillChange posted...
Y'all are ignoring the most basic physiological difference between men and women: women would generally exceed the limits of shoulder restraints at lower weights than men because of boobs.

Some women have tiny breasts. Aside from that, if it's about safely fitting into the shoulder restraints, and not weight, then why even have the weight limit?
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Nightwish
08/01/17 8:57:54 PM
#80:


Sweet I'm 6ft1.5 and 210! I can ride the hillbilly rides~
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Revelation34
08/02/17 12:55:50 AM
#81:


ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
ninjabay posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
a 500 lb woman doesn't weigh any more or less than a 500 lb man, what are people even arguing about there.


They seem to think that 500 pounds is different depending on the gender of the person.


No

People are saying that a 500 pounds woman is fatter than a 500 pounds man, normally, because men, normally, weigh more than women so, if they have the same weight the woman tend to be fatter.

However i don't agree with not letting them even enter the park, banning them from taking the rides is more than acceptable


That's not how weight works.


Actually it is

That's why the average not fat women weighs around 55 kg and men around 75


Yeah and those are different numbers. According to you 500 pounds is not 500 pounds.
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ninjabay
08/02/17 1:54:07 PM
#82:


that wasn't what i said

I said a 500 pound woman is fatter than a 500 pound man because woman normally weigh less

Engineering works on the most common case and those tables with the average weight for a certain height exist and in all those cases women weigh less than man (for the same height and all) it's just phisiology
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helly
08/02/17 1:56:13 PM
#83:


ninjabay posted...

I said a 500 pound woman is fatter than a 500 pound man because woman normally weigh less

500 pounds is 500 pounds dude.

500 pounds of bricks isn't going to be heavier than 500 pounds of feathers.
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ninjabay
08/02/17 2:19:40 PM
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notice i said fatter and not heavier

500 pounds of feathers will weigh the same as 500 pounds of bricks but occupy way way more
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Zareth
08/02/17 2:52:07 PM
#85:


Zareth posted...
Not allowing people on certain rides if they don't meet height/weight restrictions is fine, but banning them from the park entirely? That's bullshit.

And as usual, duckbear is full of it. Everyone is allowed to go to the park, you just aren't allowed to ride certain rides. An amusement park would never turn down someone willing to pay them money. Unless they're a sex offender.
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