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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:09:54 AM
#1:


Ok so it's technically 1 am in D.C. but...
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/17 1:11:03 AM
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Updates:
Pence has left the room
Whips are working on Murkowski. Not sure if that means they think she's gettable or that McCain isn't.
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StealThisSheen
07/28/17 1:11:16 AM
#3:


you know that an overwhelming majority of voters do not even watch cable news at all, right?


You got a source on this? I tried to find something on Google, but all I could find is stuff like:

http://www.journalism.org/2016/02/04/the-2016-presidential-campaign-a-news-event-thats-hard-to-miss/pj_2016-02-04_election-news_0-01/

Which certainly doesn't suggest what you're saying
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xp1337
07/28/17 1:11:40 AM
#4:


I want to go to sleep but arghhhh.
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/17 1:12:58 AM
#5:


xp1337 posted...
I want to go to sleep but arghhhh.

I have to give a two hour talk at 10am and should be preparing for it but I can't

Hopefully Mitch gives up soon!
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scarletspeed7
07/28/17 1:13:36 AM
#6:


Apparently Pence left the premises?
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:14:05 AM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Apparently Pence left the premises?


Left the room, still think he's on capital hill.
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/17 1:15:25 AM
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Sources say McCain is in fact a no: https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/890802365523087361
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:15:55 AM
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McCain laughing and chatting with Dems, hugging Feinstein.
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Wanglicious
07/28/17 1:16:19 AM
#10:


skimming through the non-shitty parts of the end of the last, redrocket's probably right. they might lose a couple seats from some purple states but they'd lose far more if they proved incapable of doing anything.

they can minimize damage by saying this isn't a true repeal, that they were simply saving the working class from paying a tax and that dems need to find different ways to pay it ("we'll use the savings from planned parenthood to pay for this!"), and that all that's happening is that the cracks of obamacare have been blown open. that what people see is what was going to happen to obamacare eventually no matter what, only now they aren't being forced to pay for government's mistake. it'd be saying that trump was telling the truth and could see far ahead and now everyone else can see it.


half truth bullshit with a spin, basically. yeah, it's their fault. but it's pretty easy to say "it's not us, it's still them."
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/17 1:16:19 AM
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https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/890802838904782848

(appropriate pic in the replies though)
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Not_an_Owl
07/28/17 1:16:40 AM
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If this actually falls through I can't wait to see the Trump Twitter meltdown.
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LapisLazuli
07/28/17 1:20:46 AM
#13:


Holy shit I don't want to jinx this.

Please, let's give America a win again.
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xp1337
07/28/17 1:21:14 AM
#14:


If this holds

this is the plot twist of the year
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:21:17 AM
#15:


They are really workin Murkowski
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xp1337
07/28/17 1:23:00 AM
#16:


TheRock1525 posted...
They are really workin Murkowski

I'd be shocked if they could get her to flip after the tweets and Interior Department stuff today (or was that yesterday i don't even remember anymoreeeee)
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LapisLazuli
07/28/17 1:23:13 AM
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I mean, shit.

Would you really want to be the one with all the responsibility on your shoulders as THE deciding vote when this ruins everything, especially if you do so by flipping and looking like a coward?
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velocycloraptor
07/28/17 1:23:45 AM
#18:


i hope this bill fails because pence can't work over murkowski unless her husband is also in the room
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:24:45 AM
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velocycloraptor posted...
i hope this bill fails because pence can't work over murkowski unless her husband is also in the room


"You remember the movie Mulan?"
"Oh yeah my kids loved it."
"...Shit."
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xp1337
07/28/17 1:27:07 AM
#20:


oh god this roll call is too much

just skip ahead please
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Jeff Zero
07/28/17 1:28:27 AM
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:30:49 AM
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Murkowski officially voted no.
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Not_an_Owl
07/28/17 1:31:08 AM
#23:


McCain and Murkowski have voted no, so unless Collins flips that's it.
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Dancedreamer
07/28/17 1:31:39 AM
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red sox 777 posted...
Donald Trump never did anything that was seen as quite as bad as Hillary getting paid $225k to give speeches to Wall Street banks. Maybe $225k is not a lot of money to Donald Trump, but it is to the average voter, and just sounds absolutely obscene for something that looks as short and simple as giving one speech. It's incredibly tangible, in a way that Trump's business deals aren't.


You mean like how Donald Trump was given $10M just for being born? Something literally every voter has done? Seems too easy to me. And way more than $225k.
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Eddv
07/28/17 1:31:44 AM
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Holy crap McCain voted no!
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The Mana Sword
07/28/17 1:32:04 AM
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Jakyl25
07/28/17 1:32:20 AM
#27:


Seph, tell us again how great McConnell is
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LapisLazuli
07/28/17 1:32:42 AM
#28:


Get fuckin' wrecked.
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:32:57 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Seph, tell us again how great McConnell is


@Nelson_Mandela
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Not_an_Owl
07/28/17 1:33:03 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Seph, tell us again how great McConnell is

Greatest Senator since Daniel Webster, I believe he said.
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MrGreenonion
07/28/17 1:33:06 AM
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I hate that Mike Crapo's name is pronounced "cray-po"
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LapisLazuli
07/28/17 1:33:42 AM
#32:


Greatest Senator since Palpatine.
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scarletspeed7
07/28/17 1:34:04 AM
#34:


Well this ended up being quite a show tonight. C-SPAN ratings just blew up to a solid 25k viewers.
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Jeff Zero
07/28/17 1:34:09 AM
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LordoftheMorons
07/28/17 1:34:37 AM
#36:


YEAHHHHHH go my McCain, Murkowski, and Collins!
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Jakyl25
07/28/17 1:34:39 AM
#37:


So what's the play now?

Try to force McCain into retirement?
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Jakyl25
07/28/17 1:36:33 AM
#38:


Oh god I just realized

Trump will tweet about this
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Eddv
07/28/17 1:36:43 AM
#39:


The play now is....to do it McCains way?
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Not_an_Owl
07/28/17 1:37:02 AM
#40:


Jakyl25 posted...
Oh god I just realized

Trump will tweet about this

Not_an_Owl posted...
If this actually falls through I can't wait to see the Trump Twitter meltdown.

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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:37:14 AM
#41:


Murkowski is the real hero for all the shit the GOP and Trump gave her.
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LapisLazuli
07/28/17 1:37:15 AM
#42:


So will "badass" McConnell ever live this down or is he done?

Sorry about your golden boy, Seph.
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Bane_Of_Despair
07/28/17 1:37:36 AM
#43:


This doesn't really make McCain a "hero" or anything considering he kind of strung this out for an extra week
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scarletspeed7
07/28/17 1:38:32 AM
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Good on McCain. He did this all in an effort to boost CSPAN's ratings.
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TheRock1525
07/28/17 1:38:32 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
This doesn't really make McCain a "hero" or anything considering he kind of strung this out for an extra week


I think he wanted this all along. To make congressional Republican leaders look like jackasses.
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Leafeon13N
07/28/17 1:38:34 AM
#46:


Just barely didn't pass?

Kind of scary.
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KamikazePotato
07/28/17 1:38:36 AM
#47:


TheRock1525 posted...
Murkowski is the real hero for all the shit the GOP and Trump gave her.

Yes. Literally threatening Alaska over this.
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LapisLazuli
07/28/17 1:39:16 AM
#48:


McCain was treating this like a fucking game an hour ago so fuck him still.

This is Murkowski's night, Collin's as well.

....but man, McCain will get all the credit, huh?
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Wanglicious
07/28/17 1:39:20 AM
#49:


murkowski is legit a candidate i'm interested in knowing more about thanks to trump.
nice to see McCain stick to his convictions.

will trump start tweeting at 2AM, 3AM, or 4AM?
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Not_an_Owl
07/28/17 1:40:04 AM
#50:


So now what? I don't see McConnell just throwing in the towel here but he's kind of out of ideas.

Comedy option: He brings forward a bill that drops the over 65 requirement from Medicare, it gets bipartisan support, and by this time next year we are living in a paradise of universal healthcare.
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scarletspeed7
07/28/17 1:40:09 AM
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Trump will start Tweeting about this as soon as it gets reported on Fox and Friends.
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