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Master Kazuya
07/27/17 2:05:08 PM
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How viable is this?
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voldothegr8
07/27/17 2:08:07 PM
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LOL

That's how viable. It's an extremely saturated market and you'll need at least an Associates to get in the door somewhere unless you have connections. If you're so lucky to do so you'll start out making peanuts until you have a few years experience.
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Master Kazuya
07/27/17 2:10:56 PM
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I've heard all I need are certs, and I'm not looking to make a ton ton of money, just like, over 40k
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ChromaticAngel
07/27/17 2:11:33 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
How viable is this?


coding or IT is a career. It is not something you do for "a quick buck" It takes investment of years of time to turn it into a lucrative position. Like medicine or law.
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BlazinBlue88
07/27/17 2:15:58 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
I've heard all I need are certs, and I'm not looking to make a ton ton of money, just like, over 40k

Get some Cisco network certs and you'll be good to go.
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voldothegr8
07/27/17 2:18:41 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
I've heard all I need are certs, and I'm not looking to make a ton ton of money, just like, over 40k

Certs help for entry level but most likely won't be good enough unless you have connections. Need that degree too. The exception might be Cisco certs, those alone will probably land you something, but going self taught you'll still probably have to pour hundreds of hours of studying to have a shot. They're some of the hardest certs to obtain.
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luigi13579
07/27/17 2:19:08 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
coding or IT is a career. It is not something you do for "a quick buck" It takes investment of years of time to turn it into a lucrative position. Like medicine or law.

Pretty much. Coding being something that absolutely anyone can do (well) is a myth, just like for medicine and law. It takes a lot of time and effort to learn well, and really, you never stop learning if you want to keep up.

Also, what you really need to do (aside from learning) is build up a portfolio to show to potential employers. They want to see what you can do, first and foremost.
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Santorin
07/27/17 2:19:16 PM
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ChromaticAngel
07/27/17 2:19:30 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
Master Kazuya posted...
I've heard all I need are certs, and I'm not looking to make a ton ton of money, just like, over 40k

Get some Cisco network certs and you'll be good to go.


Yeah, like a CCIE is something you wake up one morning and just do.

You can talk to @CableZL about it if you really want more information.
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Master Kazuya
07/27/17 2:24:53 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
coding or IT is a career. It is not something you do for "a quick buck" It takes investment of years of time to turn it into a lucrative position. Like medicine or law.


Well it's either that or I spend 2 years and thousands upon thousands of dollars going to grad school. I'd rather pick an option that I'm semi-interested in and can start having a stable job sooner than spending a lot of time in grad school.

Also I thought a benefit of these things were that there are a range of positions available. Like, if I wanted to pursue it all the way, then I could make like 60-100+k. but I'm not looking to get super high up, just something to get by comfortably for one person.
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BlazinBlue88
07/27/17 2:25:45 PM
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luigi13579 posted...
It takes a lot of time and effort to learn well, and really, you never stop learning if you want to keep up.

This is true for all the IT fields so keep it in mind. You're constantly learning new things to continue advancing in your career.

ChromaticAngel posted...
Yeah, like a CCIE is something you wake up one morning and just do.

No but a CCENT is.

Master Kazuya posted...
Also I thought a benefit of these things were that there are a range of positions available. Like, if I wanted to pursue it all the way, then I could make like 60-100+k. but I'm not looking to get super high up, just something to get by comfortably for one person.

Well I guess so. You can easily use an A+ cert and a high school diploma to get an entry level help desk support bitch boy job. That will get you $35k-$40k.
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ChromaticAngel
07/27/17 2:26:10 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
coding or IT is a career. It is not something you do for "a quick buck" It takes investment of years of time to turn it into a lucrative position. Like medicine or law.


Well it's either that or I spend 2 years and thousands upon thousands of dollars going to grad school. I'd rather pick an option that I'm semi-interested in and can start having a stable job sooner than spending a lot of time in grad school.

Also I thought a benefit of these things were that there are a range of positions available. Like, if I wanted to pursue it all the way, then I could make like 60-100+k. but I'm not looking to get super high up, just something to get by comfortably for one person.


what the fuck are you doing in grad school and you don't already have some kind of degree you can use to get a job?
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ChromaticAngel
07/27/17 2:27:30 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
No but a CCENT is.


if the only thing you have is a CCENT and 0 experience you'll be lucky to get a job as a contracter to help another tech run cable.
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BuckVanHammer
07/27/17 2:28:25 PM
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What are you doing now?
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BlazinBlue88
07/27/17 2:28:43 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
No but a CCENT is.


if the only thing you have is a CCENT and 0 experience you'll be lucky to get a job as a contracter to help another tech run cable.

Fine CCNA is it then! lol
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Master Kazuya
07/27/17 2:36:12 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
Well I guess so. You can easily use an A+ cert and a high school diploma to get an entry level help desk support bitch boy job. That will get you $35k-$40k.


lol, I'm imagine a shirt that says "bitch boy". Anyway, that would be fine by me. It's way more than I make at this part time job, and I can learn things during that job that would advance me further if I desire. And it doesn't seem that hard or demanding where I'd be exhausted all day, but who knows.

ChromaticAngel posted...

what the fuck are you doing in grad school and you don't already have some kind of degree you can use to get a job?


I'm not in grad school. I graduated undergrad in December and I've just been chilling, and I'm sick of not making enough money. My degree is in Health and I can't do anything specific with my major in my field. Dietician, Nutritionist, Wellness Managers, Physical Therapists, Occupational Therapists, Physician Assistant, etc, all require further education. I suppose I could do jobs that just require and undergrad degree, like research (and...maybe that's it? I can't think of anything entry that only needs a degree), but I need a plan B if that doesn't work out.

I can't even say that I'm passionate about Health anymore. So the way I see it, if I have equal passion or not passion for several things, I might as well take the one that makes me money the soonest.
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Master Kazuya
07/27/17 2:38:22 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
What are you doing now?


I work at some bum ass gym where the owners don't even give a shit about anything. The cool part is that I can do basically anything I want on my shifts (like, use the internet, etc) but the bad part is that I have no benefits/security, part time, hours can be scarce, and there's literally no coverage so sometimes I'm demanded to come in like it was a real job. And I'm not engaged mentally so I'm getting real bored and unmotivated.
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BigTee66
07/27/17 2:48:38 PM
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Even with coding skill and certs, that still not enough to land a decent job. You need to know some people and have some years of experience
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BlazinBlue88
07/27/17 2:51:54 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
And I'm not engaged mentally so I'm getting real bored and unmotivated.

Welcome to being a bitch boy help desk worker.

"Have you restarted your computer?"
"Ok your password's been reset"
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lww99
07/27/17 2:52:59 PM
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Master Kazuya
07/27/17 2:53:56 PM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
Welcome to being a bitch boy help desk worker.

"Have you restarted your computer?"
"Ok your password's been reset"


What sounds better to you, being unchallenged and making 14k a year, or being unchallenged and making 35 to 40k a year?
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Giant_Aspirin
07/27/17 2:55:54 PM
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IT is a great career but you need to abandon the "make money fast" part. like others have said, you need education, credentials, etc before you can get hired. that said, investing in yourself is one of, if not the, best investment you can make.
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BlazinBlue88
07/27/17 2:57:28 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
Welcome to being a bitch boy help desk worker.

"Have you restarted your computer?"
"Ok your password's been reset"


What sounds better to you, being unchallenged and making 14k a year, or being unchallenged and making 35 to 40k a year?

I'm not disagreeing. Your biggest challenge in an office will be to look busy even though you're not. I can't tell you how many days I've came home exhausted from looking busy all day!
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Transcendentia
07/27/17 2:58:18 PM
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you won't be making money fast
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CableZL
07/27/17 3:34:30 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
IT is a great career but you need to abandon the "make money fast" part. like others have said, you need education, credentials, etc before you can get hired. that said, investing in yourself is one of, if not the, best investment you can make.


Pretty much this
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