Poll of the Day > Fuck this.

(+) Yeah! (+)

wow
---

blahhhh i forgot i had to go to this thing tomorrow. :b

it'll get me out of the house, I guess. I'll probably go talk to my professor tomorrow while I'm at it.
---

Hug a puppy
---

ungubby posted...

wow

Yea i agree

@Lirishae that was pretty informative, did you or anyone suffer fron what you're saying
---

i don't like animals :( especially not doggos
---

MrMelodramatic posted...

i don't like animals :( especially not doggos

None at all? Strange.
---

eh not really. they're okay from afar, or in pictures. as long as I don't have to touch them or have them close to me <_<

i see very little difference between a dog and like, a cricket or something.
---

MrMelodramatic posted...

i see very little difference between a dog and like, a cricket or something.

I mean the world is full of loads of different animals so to not like any of them at all seems strange. Still Crickets are more harmless than dogs so. o.0
---

oh i lied.

My favourite animal is a beluga whale. i would hug and poke those babies forever if i could. Also highland cattle are h*cking cute in pictures, but i doubt they're that adorable irl.. uhhh besides those two though, I can't think of any animals i particularly like.

I think i feel about dogs the way a lot of people feel about babies. like they're kiiinda cute but you don't want to touch one or be in charge of one or have one of your own and they're nice on the internet but just sort of annoying and loud and smelly in person.

i luv babies tho.
---

sometimes i tell people i don't like animals and think they're gross and 90% of the time the person is like "wow did you not grow up with any animals?" but i totally did. growing up we had like, 3 or 4 different dogs we still have one), and a lot of my relatives had dogs, and we also had snakes and a tarantula and some fish and even a turtle at one point. i never really liked any of them and always saw them as "[sibling]'s pet" not "my pet" or "the family pet."
---

Sounds woof man.
---

mastermix3000 posted...

ungubby posted...

wow

Yea i agree

@Lirishae that was pretty informative, did you or anyone suffer fron what you're saying

Yeah, I went through utter hell because of Cymbalta, and I'm still not completely over badly that drug ****** me up =/ My doctor gave it to me for fibromyalgia, because my idiotic insurance wouldn't pay for Lyrica even though they're in the same price range. I tried it for three months with no result, and the doctor told me I could stop taking it like it was no big deal... Well, turns out it was a huge deal and she was just completely ignorant of all the risks. Most doctors are frankly ignorant of the dangers concerning anti-depressants, because they trust everything the drug companies tell them =/ Eli Lilly claims only 1% of people have trouble stopping Cymbalta...the real figure is closer to 50%, possibly more. Trying to stop Cymbalta is so difficult and dangerous that it has its own diagnosis, Cymbalta Discontinuation Syndrome. I'm in a support group of over nine thousand people, which is just one support group of many, and the stories there are truly heartbreaking and horrifying. People have died from it, others have very nearly died. Multiple people have said they've been through heroin, cocaine, and benzo withdrawal, and out of all of them Cymbalta was by far the worst. People have lost their jobs, ruined their careers, had their health shattered, their marriages ruined, family cutting off contact with them, and there is widespread ignorance, heartlessness and denial among the doctors treating them :/

So yeah, I learned a lot about anti-depressants from all that. I'm not going to say that no one should ever take them, because they certainly have saved lives. But I would personally stay away from the newer drugs, especially Cymbalta and Effexor. The older drugs like Elavil and Celexa have been around for ages and their effects are fairly well understood, so you won't be in for any nasty surprises. There are also natural approaches to treating depression that are much safer and more effective than drugs, because it actually addresses the root of the problem rather than trying to cover up the symptoms. There's actually a huge connection between your mood and your gut health, so that improving your gut health will massively help anxiety and depression issues. For an example, I used to have really awful panic attacks out of nowhere, and I'd have no idea what would cause them. My doctor on the time put me on three different medications for digestive issues, and Valium for the anxiety/panic attacks. On my own, I discovered I was gluten and dairy intolerant as many people with fibromyalgia are. So I eliminated them from my diet, started taking a high quality probiotic, and all the anxiety problems completely vanished. I was able to kick four separate medications and have a much better quality of life.

If anyone wants to read more on these subjects, the website Mad in America has a lot of great articles from well-respected doctors critiquing these drugs and how they're used. Dr. Kelly Brogan's website is also a great resource for anyone wanting to try a safer, more effective approach to treating anxiety and depression. If anyone has any questions or needs a sympathetic ear to listen, feel free to drop me a PM anytime ^^ I'm not a licensed therapist or anything, but I do know quite a bit on psychiatric topics, and I'm not going to judge or think less of anyone for what you tell me.
---

Jesus Christ dude no one is going to read all of that.

I'm kidding. Yknow. Cause this topic is, well, nvm
---

@Lirishae I'll PM u later, ill take up your offer on being an ear
---

Well I'm in the waiting room at student counseling. I don't want to be hereeee
---

Well I don't really know what I expected. I guess it went alright. It seemed kind of patronizing, but that might just be me resisting to it.

Anyway, she recommended I come in for regular counseling, and I cautiously agreed. I'm going back on Thursday, and then we'll set up a more regular schedule as the school year begins.

I really don't even know what I'm hoping this will help with. It's already beginning to feel like a waste of time. but i don't want to feel like this anymore.

fasnlanfnlkadsfflknafsddnwensd
---

Did she ask you about your dick?

I hear that's a thing they do.
---

Nah the closest thing to that was asking me about my romantic relationships
---

Lirishae posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

DirtBasedSoap posted...

ClaudiaSAirola posted...

You need antidepressants.

No seriously don't

y not?

Antidepressants are mystery drugs. Science does not understand depression or how anti-depressants work; all we have is clinical data that says n% more people taking this drug recovered from depression compared to the placebo. Sometimes n% is only 1-2%. The "chemical imbalance" line perpetuated by the drug companies is a myth designed to lower people's resistance to taking the drugs, because if they told the truth--that science cannot tell the difference between a depressed brain and a normal brain, and no one quite knows how or why most of these drugs work--a lot of people would not take them. They have tons of side effects, some of them quite nasty, and they are usually difficult to stop, especially Cymbalta and Effexor. Attempting to withdraw from them can cause even worse depression than what you started with, which doctors will cite as proof you "need" the drug, when it's really the drug making you feel that way. There is data that the overwhelming majority of depression episodes resolve on their own without medication, and that you're more likely to stay depressed if you remain on an anti-depressant for long-term. These drugs also don't fix any of the underlying problems, and often work by numbing your emotions. That, the weight gain, and the sexual dysfunction has destroyed many a relationship and marriage. All of this said, there are certainly people who have benefited from these drugs and whose lives have been saved by them. But they are never a long-term solution and should never be taken by themselves without therapy.

Dude are you just making stuff up?

You can tell if a person has depression from a brain scan.

How antidepressants work is not a mystery, they have solid chemistry behind them.

Most depressive episodes do not go away on their own and do require medication and therapy.

Yes withdrawl is a thing but you should always be weened off of any medication, even when switching to a new one.
---

This topic... I'm still... Wow.
---

Didnt mean to delete that.

Sometimes it takes time to find a therapist that works for you, dont get discouraged.

Dont lie during therapy, bring anything up that troubles you. When you are given something to do you do it. Therapy helps those that want to be helped by therapy.
---

DrPrimemaster posted...

Dude are you just making stuff up?

You can tell if a person has depression from a brain scan.

How antidepressants work is not a mystery, they have solid chemistry behind them.

Most depressive episodes do not go away on their own and do require medication and therapy.

Yes withdrawl is a thing but you should always be weened off of any medication, even when switching to a new one.

Nope, I'm not making anything up. Do your own research if you don't believe me. If a brain scan could diagnose depression, why are they never ordered for it? Instead depression is diagnosed based on DSM-IV/V criteria. And if you can explain how anti-depressants work to doctors and researchers, you'll be stinking rich in no time, because they seriously do not know what causes or cures depression. Here are links to studies and articles from medical doctors; I can provide a ton more sources than these too.

http://kellybroganmd.com/depression-serotonin/

https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/08/findings-linking-depression-abnormal-brain-activity-questioned/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/antidepresssants-provide-no-clear-advantage-for-youths-with-major-depression/2016/06/10/bce35f12-2e5f-11e6-9de3-6e6e7a14000c_story.html

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/01/smashing-the-neurotransmitter-myth-how-why-antidepressants-cause-suicides-mass-murders/

http://bigthink.com/devil-in-the-data/does-depression-go-away-on-its-own

From Wikipedia: "Other general population studies indicate that around half those who have an episode recover (whether treated or not) and remain well, while the other half will have at least one more, and around 15% of those experience chronic recurrence." In other words, only 15% of people experience chronic depression. The other 85% of people get better whether treated or not; 50% never have another depressive episode again, and the rest will have at least one more episode during their lifetime. Study cited as source for this statement: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2761826/
---

Ok, after reading your articles it seems that we were talking about different things. When I hear depression I am not thinking of someone experiencing a depressive episode I am thinking of someone with years of chronic depression.

I agree that if you have only had one episode you should not take medication. Medication is the last line of defense for those 15% of people that have chronic depression and have not had success with therapy.

I also agree that giving medication to youths is not a decision that should be taken lightly.

But neither of these apply to TC. He is not a youth and has had depression for many years. I'm not saying he should immediately jump to taking medication but if he goes through therapy and it comes up he shouldn't be completely resistant to it.
---

i'm gonna chime in and say that I don't know if I'm depressed. that seems like a harsh term, one that really applies to people who are hurting. i don't want to minimize depression by saying i have it.
---

MrMelodramatic posted...

i'm gonna chime in and say that I don't know if I'm depressed. that seems like a harsh term, one that really applies to people who are hurting. i don't want to minimize depression by saying i have it.

It's an illness, some people have it worse than others. There's no reason to let yourself suffer/stay sick just because others might be even worse. You can just ask your doctor about it and they'll ask you some questions and determine if they think you are or not. You can refuse the medication and opt in to try therapy instead, that's what I did. It didn't exactly work out in the end, but I'm sure Texas has many more qualified doctors than my area does.
---

There is a difference between having depression and feeling down now and then. I guess if it's effecting your everyday life then it's time to do something about it. Much like any mental illness. I mean I have anxiety symptoms but they don't really effect my day to day life nor would I actually class myself as having a mental illness even though I probably do but on a mild scale.

I don't have CBT or take medication either. If given the choice though I'd do the former as medication doesn't cure the problem it just helps with the symptoms(or make the symptoms worse in some cases). Mental illnesses are of course in the brain so working out the cause of these problems is my main concern. I've no idea what's triggering it though.
---

In hindsight, I forgot to mention it took me 13 months to taper from 30 mg Cymbalta, and it was still hell getting off that drug even at a snail's pace. Some people in my group taking higher doses for a longer period of time took as long as four years to completely stop it. Most anti-depressants can be tapered much faster than that, and some people are able to stop Cymbalta without getting hit with discontinuation syndrome, but for that other 50% who experience it getting off is stupidly difficult. I'm not saying that no one should ever take anti-depressants or that no one has ever benefited from them, but it's very important to know what you're getting yourself into. And definitely stay away from both Cymbalta and Effexor, as they are the two most difficult to stop.
---

The girl I've been hardcore crushing on for like three or four months now drove into town again this weekend. I happened to be out of town until the afternoon so I thought I was going to miss her, but I saw on Snapchat that she was at school so I bought fajitas and went to school to surprise her. I completely distracted her from her work which I always end up doing and feeling awful about, but it's just so nice to talk to her and jfc whyyy do I act this way. So well anyway we hung out for like five hours, and then she said she had to get going home soon (it's a little over 150 miles, I think) but she was going to grab a quick dinner first and asked me to come with. We went to sonic and all I got was fries so she paid and said that was rent for the nights she's spent at my place. And yknow it was supposed to be a quick dinner, but we ended up talking about super heroes, and lazy photoshop, and getting old and dying alone and stuff. And I told her that grabbing fast food dinner and chilling in a car reminded me of high school, and how I really romanticize that time in my life even though I didn't like it all that much while I was living it. And we talked about the romance of sitting in a car with someone, with no plans, nowhere to go, nothing to do. The romance of having the freedom to go somewhere, but choosing to stay put with the person you're with, and just talk to them. Or to drive aimlessly and spend the whole night doing nothing (the kind of night where nothing really happens but everything goes down). And she told me she romanticized similar things, but also watching movies and star gazing and basic human contact like a hug. We spent a little over three hours at Sonic before she actually really had to go. She drove me home and got off to give me a hug and I apologized for wasting the last eight hours of her Saturday and she said it was worth it for the romantic corn dogs she ate :b obviously poking fun at me, but gently and not exactly mocking or anything. Well anyway we started a list of things we're going to do before I grow up and move and do real life adult things. Nothing on it is very big, so I hope we manage to make some headway.
---

Bump so this doesn't purge
---