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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:38:15 PM
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40680500

The party of small government my ass. I dont need mommy government telling me where I can and cant travel. If I want to take a risk, I should have the right to do so. Ultimately, this is just political theater though. All N. Korea travel is done through China, and N. Korea doesnt stamp passports. As long as Chinese travel agencies will let you in, you can still do it.

Republicans claim to want minimal government, but they insist on telling you where you can travel, who you can marry, whether or not you have to have a child, and they constantly jam their religion down everyone's throats. It is the definition of hypocrisy.
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3rd_Best_Master
07/21/17 1:39:33 PM
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Dennis Rodman is going to go to war over this.
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MC_BatCommander
07/21/17 1:39:51 PM
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Eh, I agree with this decision tbh. It's already recommended that Americans avoid traveling there and they literally murdered one of our citizens.
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davyheinz
07/21/17 1:39:53 PM
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Don't know why anybody wants to go there so this would be fine with me, but it's stupid to do anyways.
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Caution999
07/21/17 1:40:12 PM
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Imagine being angry about this
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Tmaster148
07/21/17 1:40:41 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Eh, I agree with this decision tbh. It's already recommended that Americans avoid traveling there and they literally murdered one of our citizens.


Pretty much this. This is the case of an actual good travel ban as there is a clear goal to protect the citizens of this country.
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Johnny_Nutcase
07/21/17 1:41:02 PM
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So when are you going to N Korea TC?
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Chad-Henne
07/21/17 1:41:07 PM
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Coffeebeanz
07/21/17 1:41:23 PM
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This is probably a good idea given what happened to that one college kid.

That said, I'm not sure what the constitutionality of banning travel to specific countries is. I'm sure it's been done many times before, though. Cuba, for example.
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/21/17 1:41:55 PM
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Think it's more of a political move but as was pointed out, idiots do idiotic things.
So it's good.
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kingdrake2
07/21/17 1:44:10 PM
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davyheinz posted...
Don't know why anybody wants to go there so this would be fine with me, but it's stupid to do anyways.


he's right, N korea could put someone into a hard labor camp for any damn reason they like and there's nothing the victim could do about it.
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SSJ-JohnLennon
07/21/17 1:44:27 PM
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Liberal's will oppose this for some reason.
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TheoryzC
07/21/17 1:44:47 PM
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Good
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Chicken
07/21/17 1:45:27 PM
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Please go to North Korea and stop posting TC.
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3khc
07/21/17 1:45:57 PM
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What if you have family there
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/21/17 1:46:02 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
Dennis Rodman is going to go to war over this.


Noooooo I wanted to be the first person to say this D:
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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:46:57 PM
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What people dont realize is that hundreds of Americans visit N. Korea every year, and less than 20 have ever been imprisoned. Everyone who has been detained in N. Korea did something stupid too (stealing from the hotel, leaving bibles in hotel rooms). Despite what the biased western media says, If you follow the rules, it is a perfectly safe trip.
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Sativa_Rose
07/21/17 1:47:42 PM
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I think it would be cool to visit every country in the world some day. So if North Korea is still around, then that would have to be included. Of course, this isn't exactly something I would be doing any time soon so this doesn't really matter. Also it's probably still possible to go from another country, just like how Americans used to be able to go to Cuba by going to another country first back when we were "banned" from there too.
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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:48:05 PM
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Seriously, the N. Korean media is obviously full of crap, but it is absurd to blindly believe the American media as well. N. Korea makes a lot of money from foreign tourism (it is one way they get cash despite the sanctions), and it is in the USA's best interests to scare people away.
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Caution999
07/21/17 1:49:20 PM
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Convinced this is trolling now

You're not gonna find a bigger person against our American media than me, but in this case, they're telling the truth . I'd trust our media over theirs and you know how I feel about the MSM
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/21/17 1:50:10 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
If you follow the rules, it is a perfectly safe trip.

And if you don't follow the rules of this new law, you get punished. If you do follow the rules, it's perfectly safe.

I don't see your problem honestly.
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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:50:27 PM
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Below is the complete list. based on the numbers, the odds of being detained are less than 1%. Everyone who has been arrested was an idiot and was aware of the risks.

Of the 4,000 to 5,000 Western tourists who visit each year, about 20 percent come from the United States,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_nationals_detained_in_North_Korea
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/world/asia/americans-visit-north-korea-despite-warnings.html?mcubz=1
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MC_BatCommander
07/21/17 1:51:45 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
Below is the complete list. based on the numbers, the odds of being detained are less than 1%.


so? they murdered that kid.

I don't give a fuck of the chances of it happening. A government should not be allowed to straight up kill tourists.
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UnholyMudcrab
07/21/17 1:51:54 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
What people dont realize is that hundreds of Americans visit N. Korea every year, and less than 20 have ever been imprisoned. Everyone who has been detained in N. Korea did something stupid too (stealing from the hotel, leaving bibles in hotel rooms). Despite what the biased western media says, If you follow the rules, it is a perfectly safe trip.

That's interesting, I can't say I see many North Korea shills around here.
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TheVipaGTS
07/21/17 1:52:18 PM
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I don't think anyone should travel to NK but I don't see any reason for a ban aside from "hey look what we did! praise us!"....this isn't going to make NK panic or rethink who they are...if anything it'll make them more upset and give them more propaganda for their citizens.."see, American's don't want to be around you! they hate you!"
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Monday
07/21/17 1:52:19 PM
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Sensible law is imposed under Trump administration, therefore it's inherently evil.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/21/17 1:52:22 PM
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SSJ-JohnLennon posted...
Liberal's will oppose this for some reason.


*'S'SJ-JohnLennon po'sted...
*Liberal's will oppo'se thi's for 'some rea'son
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/21/17 1:52:23 PM
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Guy,s TC is 100% correct
It's all about not breaking the rules.
Once you follow the rule of not travelling to NK, there's no danger.
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Sativa_Rose
07/21/17 1:52:37 PM
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It's not risk free, but it's less dangerous than some people are making it out to be. I'll take North Korea over Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Libya any day.
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Caution999
07/21/17 1:53:13 PM
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Oh ok the kid that stole a poster deserved jail time that if it happened in any other country it'd be a slap on the wrist. Maybe a small fine. He paid with his life.

Only an idiot would believe it's not dangerous there
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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:53:32 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Convinced this is trolling now

You're not gonna find a bigger person against our American media than me, but in this case, they're telling the truth . I'd trust our media over theirs and you know how I feel about the MSM


You cant argue with the numbers. I am talking about the tourist destinations. You basically only interract with the N. Korean aristocracy. It is the safest part of the country and there is virtually no crime because the military is the police force. As long as you watch your mouth, you will be perfectly fine.

You cant argue with the numbers. The vast majority of Americans who visit the country come back just fine. The media only reports on the exceptions.
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--kresnik--
07/21/17 1:53:52 PM
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What reason would any sane person have to go there? Sounds like he's watching out for people.
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Caution999
07/21/17 1:54:57 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
I don't think anyone should travel to NK but I don't see any reason for a ban aside from "hey look what we did! praise us!"....this isn't going to make NK panic or rethink who they are...if anything it'll make them more upset and give them more propaganda for their citizens.."see, American's don't want to be around you! they hate you!"



Cmon dude. This is a nothing burger. Express your hate for this administration over another issue
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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:55:12 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
It's not risk free, but it's less dangerous than some people are making it out to be. I'll take North Korea over Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Libya any day.


Agreed. I have looked into it, and the travel agencies brief everyone on the rules. Everyone who has been detained knowingly broke the rules. N. Korea is running a travel business, and it is in their best interests to NOT go arresting every wealthy american who enters the country. They want your money just like any other business.
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LightHawKnight
07/21/17 1:55:27 PM
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Man, never understood why anyone would ever chance going to North Korea. South Korea? Sure, have fun, what even is in North Korea other than suffering of its citizens?
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/21/17 1:56:26 PM
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Seriously, TC you are doing a wonderful job at convincing everyone that following the law is wise.

I propose we follow this new law also.
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Caution999
07/21/17 1:56:26 PM
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Nothing burger
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creativerealms
07/21/17 1:56:37 PM
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I actually agree with this.
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CountessRolab
07/21/17 1:56:44 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Man, never understood why anyone would ever chance going to North Korea. South Korea? Sure, have fun, what even is in North Korea other than suffering of its citizens?


It is the last bastion of soviet era communism. Whether or not you support it, It is interesting, and you wont find anywhere else like it in the world.
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Questionmarktarius
07/21/17 1:57:34 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Eh, I agree with this decision tbh. It's already recommended that Americans avoid traveling there and they literally murdered one of our citizens.


Pretty much this. This is the case of an actual good travel ban as there is a clear goal to protect the citizens of this country.

A ban is just plain dumb, and marginally tyrannical.

Just declare, "If you go to North Korea, the state department isn't bailing your dumb ass out if you fuck up" - that's it.
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Santorin
07/21/17 1:58:28 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
I don't think anyone should travel to NK but I don't see any reason for a ban aside from "hey look what we did! praise us!"....this isn't going to make NK panic or rethink who they are...if anything it'll make them more upset and give them more propaganda for their citizens.."see, American's don't want to be around you! they hate you!"


Or MAYBE, this is to stop NK from murdering US citizens and provoking the US. Just sayin.

This is a good move by this administration and if you can't admit that you have an unhealthy bias.
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Caution999
07/21/17 2:00:47 PM
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This topic is proof that people would hate Trump over saving the life of a child.

Somehow, it would get twisted.


Yes, it's more for show. You're not wrong - which is even more concerning why this would even bother you. You can get in thru China - which is the only way you could before.

This is a nothing burger. There is literally not a single reason to be upset. These North Koreans aren't even human - at least the ones involved in the government anyway. They're scum. The regular innocent citizens are victims.
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Ammonitida
07/21/17 2:04:05 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Imagine being angry about this

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Questionmarktarius
07/21/17 2:05:26 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Imagine being angry about this

It's like banning the act of shoving a rabid wolverine down one's own pants.
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BLAKUboy
07/21/17 2:06:35 PM
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Caution999 posted...
This topic is proof that people would hate Trump over saving the life of a child.

If anything it's proof of Trumpeters praising Trump for doing literally nothing.
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mattnd2007
07/21/17 2:09:06 PM
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Best start believing in troll topics CE, youre in one
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Ammonitida
07/21/17 2:09:35 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Caution999 posted...
This topic is proof that people would hate Trump over saving the life of a child.

If anything it's proof of Trumpeters praising Trump for doing literally nothing.

This "literally nothing" compelled a leftist to post a topic and whine about big Government.
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Ammonitida
07/21/17 2:11:00 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Man, never understood why anyone would ever chance going to North Korea. South Korea? Sure, have fun, what even is in North Korea other than suffering of its citizens?


It is the last bastion of soviet era communism. Whether or not you support it, It is interesting, and you wont find anywhere else like it in the world.


I don't support people getting 15 years hard labor for pulling down a propaganda poster. Nor do I support people getting life for dealing dope on a street corner.
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Santorin
07/21/17 2:11:19 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
praising Trump for doing literally nothing.


This is actually setting precedence on the world stage that the US is telling NK to fuck off. You best believe this is something.
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LightHawKnight
07/21/17 2:12:18 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
CountessRolab posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Man, never understood why anyone would ever chance going to North Korea. South Korea? Sure, have fun, what even is in North Korea other than suffering of its citizens?


It is the last bastion of soviet era communism. Whether or not you support it, It is interesting, and you wont find anywhere else like it in the world.


I don't support people getting 15 years hard labor for pulling down a propaganda poster. Nor do I support people getting life for dealing dope on a street corner.


The proof the guy did it was so shitty, it might as well have been big foot who took down the poster.
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