Current Events > Bill Nye episode (rerun) on Netflix REMOVES gender chromosome segment

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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 4:30:22 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mY1ZrJB2sQ


Interesting
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 4:33:43 PM
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Old

But still hilarious.
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Kolibri X
07/15/17 4:43:04 PM
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So is that info about chromosomes not true anymore?
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DifferentialEquation
07/15/17 4:43:59 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
So is that info about chromosomes not true anymore?


No. People's feelings have been getting hurt and so the science has become invalid.
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brotrrwinner
07/15/17 4:46:29 PM
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We've now reached a point where we're censoring science. Just let that sink in for a second
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 4:52:31 PM
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mattnd2007 posted...
i miss the 90s. back before everyone went fucking crazy.

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mattnd2007
07/15/17 4:55:40 PM
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brotrrwinner posted...
We've now reached a point where we're censoring science. Just let that sink in for a second


right? it's fucking horrifying. thought police are probably here within 20 years.
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GoldSocksForWok
07/15/17 5:07:16 PM
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Wow, trying to censor science
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On_The_Edge
07/15/17 5:08:01 PM
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brotrrwinner posted...
We've now reached a point where we're censoring science. Just let that sink in for a second

now? it's been happening. science has been politicized for decades
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RebelElite791
07/15/17 5:08:42 PM
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:09:39 PM
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Leftists are literally trying to change history and censor science now.

What the flying fuck.
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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 5:12:16 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
http://www.snopes.com/bill-nye-gender-chromosomes/


The article is talking about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPR-4zbnVI


Where he talks about chromosomes but never about gender. So the article is correct.

There is nothing false about the first post, though. It is a different episode.
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AlCalavicci
07/15/17 5:14:12 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
http://www.snopes.com/bill-nye-gender-chromosomes/


The article is talking about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPR-4zbnVI


Where he talks about chromosomes but never about gender. So the article is correct.

There is nothing false about the first post, though. It is a different episode.


Did you read the whole thing? It addresses the missing segment also. The whole article basically says that Nye's constantly learning like we all are.

According to the article Netflix says that it was delivered to them that way from Buena Vista TV.
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:17:16 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
http://www.snopes.com/bill-nye-gender-chromosomes/

Literally posting fake news.

That episode DOES say that your gender is determined by your chromosomes, it just wasn't in the scene in the screenshot.
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:17:54 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
Did you read the whole thing? It addresses the missing segment also. The whole article basically says that Nye's constantly learning like we all are.

Your sex is still determined by your chromosomes. That has not changed.
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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 5:20:17 PM
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Ok, nevermind. The article is lying then. That episode about probability literally says that there are only 2 genders and that gender is determined by chromosomes, as seen in the first post.

The original episode is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLd3O0O0k-8&t=8m
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/15/17 5:21:04 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Kolibri X posted...
So is that info about chromosomes not true anymore?


No. People's feelings have been getting hurt and so the science has become invalid.


this post reminds me of religion
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TheVipaGTS
07/15/17 5:22:27 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
AlCalavicci posted...
Did you read the whole thing? It addresses the missing segment also. The whole article basically says that Nye's constantly learning like we all are.

Your sex is still determined by your chromosomes. That has not changed.

Right. Sex. So what's the issue? I guess inversely they could have just dubbed over the original segment with "sex" instead of removing it completely.
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KingCrabCake
07/15/17 5:23:52 PM
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Theres only 2 genders anyway
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:24:07 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Kolibri X posted...
So is that info about chromosomes not true anymore?


No. People's feelings have been getting hurt and so the science has become invalid.


this post reminds me of religion


The sad thing is that these CEmen would be bashing religion if it was trying to change or censor science. But since it's leftist dogma that's changing and censoring science, it's okay.
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Medz2017
07/15/17 5:24:08 PM
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And the SJWs wonder how Trump was elected
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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 5:26:07 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Right. Sex. So what's the issue? I guess inversely they could have just dubbed over the original segment with "sex" instead of removing it completely.


Bill Nye doesn't believe that apparently. Here's a quote from his new series (taken from that article):

"Take sex. We used to think it was pretty straightforward. X and a Y chromosome for males. Two Xs for females. But we see more combinations than that in real life.

[…]

We have to listen to the science. And the science says that we’re all on a spectrum.”
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NeonOctopus
07/15/17 5:26:28 PM
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DEKMStephens
07/15/17 5:26:31 PM
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Actually there was one piece of misinformation in there, the chances of becoming male or female sex at birth is more of a 49/51 split rather than 50/50. That said it isn't that big of a difference for that to be removed though.
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:26:46 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
AlCalavicci posted...
Did you read the whole thing? It addresses the missing segment also. The whole article basically says that Nye's constantly learning like we all are.

Your sex is still determined by your chromosomes. That has not changed.

Right. Sex. So what's the issue? I guess inversely they could have just dubbed over the original segment with "sex" instead of removing it completely.

It's clear they're talking about biology in the show. "Gender" being used as shorthand for "gender expression" is a recent phenomenon. There's nothing inaccurate about what they say.
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ChainedRedone
07/15/17 5:27:34 PM
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Transcendentia posted...
Leftists are literally trying to change history and censor science now.

What the flying fuck.


The right has been doing this for decades with evolution and climate change. Are you slow?
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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 5:28:07 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Leftists are literally trying to change history and censor science now.

What the flying fuck.


The right has been doing this for decades with evolution and climate change. Are you slow?


Two wrongs don't make a right
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:28:38 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Right. Sex. So what's the issue? I guess inversely they could have just dubbed over the original segment with "sex" instead of removing it completely.


Bill Nye doesn't believe that apparently. Here's a quote from his new series (taken from that article):

"Take sex. We used to think it was pretty straightforward. X and a Y chromosome for males. Two Xs for females. But we see more combinations than that in real life.

[…]

We have to listen to the science. And the science says that we’re all on a spectrum.”

Chromosome disorders are really rare and it does not mean we are "all" on a spectrum. It's also unrelated to gender dysphoria.
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:29:34 PM
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I bet ChainedRedone was really bashing the right whenever they'd oppose climate change and evolution. I wonder if he has issues with how the left is literally attempting to change history now.
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TheVipaGTS
07/15/17 5:29:56 PM
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I never said there was anything inaccurate about what they said. Sex and Gender are two different things. As you said gender becoming a term independent of sex is a fairly new thing. Presenting it that way to people today could be confusing. I'm not seeing the big deal. They're not censoring science. It's all symantics. You guys get so worked up over such trivial stuff.
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TimOsman
07/15/17 5:30:45 PM
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I mean leftists get on right wingers for denying climate change even though there's more to be skeptical there cause they seem to not want dissenting views at all and that goes against the scientific method.

But then it happens here and leftists will defend it. Idk. Doesn't make sense. Idc anymore though.
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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 5:31:58 PM
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If you took a survey most people would say sex and gender are the same thing. To most people they mean the same thing.
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ChainedRedone
07/15/17 5:32:00 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Leftists are literally trying to change history and censor science now.

What the flying fuck.


The right has been doing this for decades with evolution and climate change. Are you slow?


Two wrongs don't make a right


Did I say it did?

Transcendentia posted...
I bet ChainedRedone was really bashing the right whenever they'd oppose climate change and evolution. I wonder if he has issues with how the left is literally attempting to change history now.


Change a segment from a Bill Nye episode is changing history now eh. Jesus christ you seem triggered af
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:32:09 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
I never said there was anything inaccurate about what they said. Sex and Gender are two different things. As you said gender becoming a term independent of sex is a fairly new thing. Presenting it that way to people today could be confusing. I'm not seeing the big deal. They're not censoring science. It's all symantics. You guys get so worked up over such trivial stuff.

Once again, it's clear they're talking about biology in the show. There is still such a thing as "biological gender".

Social reconstructionalists really want to separate gender from sex entirely, but they can't. For the time being, words have meanings.
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:32:52 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Social reconstructionalists really want to separate gender from sex entirely, but they can't. For the time being, words have meanings.


Hit the nail on the head. Attempting to reconstruct societal trends and beliefs doesn't invalidate science. I don't know why people like VipaGTS want to do that so badly.
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Illuminoius
07/15/17 5:34:48 PM
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mattnd2007 posted...

i'm a tyrannosaurus fire truck guys. if you say otherwise you are a biggot.

i can't wait until the day people shut the fuck up with stupid "sjw" parody shit like this
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KingCrabCake
07/15/17 5:35:10 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Leftists are literally trying to change history and censor science now.

What the flying fuck.


The right has been doing this for decades with evolution and climate change. Are you slow?

Completely irrelevant
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TheVipaGTS
07/15/17 5:35:55 PM
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It's clear to you. Might not be clear to someone else. And like I said the word is moving away from its ties to sex. It happens a lot. Gay was once used as another word for Happy. No one uses it like that anymore. If Sesame Street had a segment about how "we should all be gay" and meant it as happy I'd understand them removing it from reruns today. Hell I bet kids still laugh about it being in the Flinstones theme lol.

If that is your issue then go bitch and moan about that. That doesn't mean by removing this segment they're "censoring and ignoring science". Stop trying so hard.
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:36:08 PM
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Illuminoius posted...
mattnd2007 posted...

i'm a tyrannosaurus fire truck guys. if you say otherwise you are a biggot.

i can't wait until the day people shut the fuck up with stupid "sjw" parody shit like this


Time to censor it and get the law to consider it hate speech!
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KingCrabCake
07/15/17 5:36:18 PM
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Illuminoius posted...
mattnd2007 posted...

i'm a tyrannosaurus fire truck guys. if you say otherwise you are a biggot.

i can't wait until the day people shut the fuck up with stupid "sjw" parody shit like this

They will stop when SJW get a clue
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:36:44 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
It's clear to you. Might not be clear to someone else. And like I said the word is moving away from its ties to sex. It happens a lot. Gay was once used as another word for Happy. No one uses it like that anymore. If Sesame Street had a segment about how "we should all be gay" and meant it as happy I'd understand them removing it from reruns today. Hell I bet kids still laugh about it being in the Flinstones theme lol.

If that is your issue then go bitch and moan about that. That doesn't mean by removing this segment they're "censoring and ignoring science". Stop trying so hard.


So you admit that it has nothing to do with science and is instead just a subjective societal notion that can change?
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TheVipaGTS
07/15/17 5:38:49 PM
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The very first definition of gender is:

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

So in context to that segment, yes. No science is being changed I don't know why you keep saying that.
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Damn_Underscore
07/15/17 5:39:03 PM
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It is true that word meanings change, but the fact remains that most people give gender and sex the same meaning.

Therefore the word meaning hasn't changed
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:40:08 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
It's clear to you. Might not be clear to someone else.

Such people didn't watch the entire episode, then.

TheVipaGTS posted...
Gay was once used as another word for Happy.

Uh...it still means happy. It all depends on the context.

Vipa's logic really is confounding. Words can have more than one meaning, even if one meaning is more popular than another.
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:40:19 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
The very first definition of gender is:

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

So in context to that segment, yes. No science is being changed I don't know why you keep saying that.


So then how do you explain that transpeople who transition have a clear notion in mind of what it means to be male or female? If someone born with a penis decided they wanted to be a female, why does that usually entail undergoing transitional hormones and surgeries in order to resemble a physical female?
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Mal_Fet
07/15/17 5:41:07 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
The very first definition of gender is:

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

So in other words, even by this social reconstructionalist definition, it is not necessarily referring to the social norms of a gender. So Bill Nye's original episode was accurate.

Good to know.
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TheVipaGTS
07/15/17 5:41:36 PM
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Yea it still means happy but if an old segment presented it in that context do you think people today would be confused? Especially kids? And I never said his original segment wasn't accurate.
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Transcendentia
07/15/17 5:43:16 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Yea it still means happy but if an old segment presented it in that context do you think people today would be confused? Especially kids? And I never said his original segment wasn't accurate.


Nobody would be confused unless we insist on indoctrinating children into social justice warrior bullshit.
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TheVipaGTS
07/15/17 5:43:49 PM
#51:


I give up. Have fun getting triggered over nothing, guys.
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Rexdragon125
07/15/17 5:47:48 PM
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