Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 113: Looking At A Kush-y Jail Cell

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Jakyl25 posted...

Are burgers specifically looking for homes without cows to rob?

Best unintentional typo ever.
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XD that really is.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik posted...

http://www.grandparents.com/food-and-leisure/did-you-know/most-stolen-items

I don't even know why I post half the time cuz people can't ever just agree without arguing. Firearms is way down the list and thats with grouping things up before it. And a good portion of firearms stolen are ones incidentally found and not knoen to be there. One thing not listed which is hugely stolen also is lawnmowers and copper (unless this falls under jewelry). Lawnmowers generally don't require entry into the home however.

I googled it too, and basically every link except this one lists firearms in the top items, and this one STILL puts it at #8.

Strong work.

http://www.alarm.org/homesafety/topsixitemsburglarsstealfromhomes.aspx

You probably just arent seperating robberies from burglaries.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

How many household items have value to be stolen? Get real

I'm just saying that your data does not support your claim, at all.

It does. But, like I said. You will argue any last thing stated.
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Jakyl25 posted...

MWC, why not just carry it on you everywhere?

I more or less do when I'm not at home. I have a concealed carry license (but Kentucky is open carry anyway) and I'm driving to Krispy Kreme right now cause of their deal today. I have the one in the middle console
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Can you think of any other possible reason people don't steal guns as much as other items? I sure can't /s
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GuessMyUserName posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Honestly a guard dog seems like an overall better investment than a gun.

A gun can only protect you if you're there... and awake enough to get your gun and load it in time if someone's robbing you in the middle of the night.

A dog isn't as easily dealt with. An unarmed burglar probably isn't going to want to mess with an animal that can literally rip their throat out if need be. An armed burglar? Well that's more of a warning you'd get if you only had a gun on you. >_>

If you have to LOAD your gun you are an idiot. I can almot argue if you have one not in the chamber already you're an idiot, but definitely if it isn't loaded....

I hope to god someone takes away your guns.

If you are an armed assailant in the time it takes me to
Load my
Gun you have shot me 4 times
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I am severely concerned at the lack of street smarts in this topic. = /
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EmDubyaSee posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

MWC, why not just carry it on you everywhere?

I more or less do when I'm not at home. I have a concealed carry license (but Kentucky is open carry anyway) and I'm driving to Krispy Kreme right now cause of their deal today. I have the one in the middle console

What do stats say about concealed carry vs. open carry?

I can see arguments for both being better
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2. Once inside, what was the first thing you looked to steal?
Jewelry, electronics, cash and credit cards are all attractive to burglars. Inmates also added collectibles and guns.

“NRA sticker on car bumper = Lots of guns to steal,” wrote one burglar.

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Corrik posted...

I am severely concerned at the lack of street smarts in this topic. = /

Sorry we need logic behind claims to believe them
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Jakyl25 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

MWC, why not just carry it on you everywhere?

I more or less do when I'm not at home. I have a concealed carry license (but Kentucky is open carry anyway) and I'm driving to Krispy Kreme right now cause of their deal today. I have the one in the middle console

What do stats say about concealed carry vs. open carry?

I can see arguments for both being better

What type of stats? Cause there are a variety on both.

I usually conceal, because I do know some people do legit get freaked out by a gun, and I don't want to do that to people. But I do like KY is open carry, so that if I'm not wearing clothes condusive sp to concealed I can just holster up and be fine.
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"I've been casing this place for days. No one's home now, the front door key is under the mat, and they just bought a new TV. But I don't think we should rob them, because there's a gun in there."
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EmDubyaSee posted...

What type of stats? Cause there are a variety on both.

Which one causes more accidents, I suppose.

Basically which is safer
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oh MWC is from kentucky? makes sense that he's right-wing.

he's just super right-wing because he's obsessively extremist in everything he does.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

oh MWC is from kentucky? makes sense that he's right-wing.

he's just super right-wing because he's obsessively extremist in everything he does.

I'm FROM California kid...
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Jakyl25 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

What type of stats? Cause there are a variety on both.

Which one causes more accidents, I suppose.

Basically which is safer

Without actually checking stats,
I've always heard you are much more likely to have an accidental discharge of your firearm while concealed carry. Which makes sense. Most open is in a holster
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http://www.alarm.org/homesafety/topsixitemsburglarsstealfromhomes.aspx

https://www.safewise.com/blog/10-must-have-items-on-every-burglars-wish-list/

https://www.esurance.com/info/homeowners/5-things-burglars-want-to-steal

http://simplisafe.com/blog/home-security-top-10-common-stolen-items-from-a-burglar

http://www.asecurelife.com/security-infographic/


There is a reason the lists have the same top items and guns are so low.
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Jakyl25 posted...

"I've been casing this place for days. No one's home now, the front door key is under the mat, and they just bought a new TV. But I don't think we should rob them, because there's a gun in there."

You watch too many movies. Most burglaries are junkies looking for cash and pills or people going to vacant houses for copper.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

oh MWC is from kentucky? makes sense that he's right-wing.

he's just super right-wing because he's obsessively extremist in everything he does.

I'm FROM California kid...

You're from the California Kid? I didn't know it was a woman.
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Guns – If there is a gun available inside a home, nine times out of 10 a burglar will be claiming that as his property. Guns have a huge resale value on the street; a criminal will have no problem selling this hot merchandise.

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I heard robbers steal condoms a lot. Luckily they don't need my size.
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TheRock1525 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

oh MWC is from kentucky? makes sense that he's right-wing.

he's just super right-wing because he's obsessively extremist in everything he does.

I'm FROM California kid...

You're from the California Kid? I didn't know it was a woman.

Born and raised in the state of California. Not the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
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So MWC is both claiming that he keeps all of his guns loaded with one in the chamber, AND that he keeps 8 guns all in the same place

Is there really any more proof necessary that he doesn't actually own a gun? No gun owner is THAT stupid.
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-FFDragon- posted...

Guns – If there is a gun available inside a home, nine times out of 10 a burglar will be claiming that as his property. Guns have a huge resale value on the street; a criminal will have no problem selling this hot merchandise.

This is again how they argue with spin instead of facts. Yes, if they burglarize a house and come across a gun they are taking it. Lmfao. Why wouldn't they? Most guns stolen ate found incidentally as most burglars avoid homes with guns due to risk.
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Corrik posted...

Most guns stolen ate found incidentally as most burglars avoid homes with guns due to risk.

-FFDragon- posted...

2. Once inside, what was the first thing you looked to steal?
Jewelry, electronics, cash and credit cards are all attractive to burglars. Inmates also added collectibles and guns.

“NRA sticker on car bumper = Lots of guns to steal,” wrote one burglar.

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-FFDragon- posted...

Corrik posted...

Most guns stolen ate found incidentally as most burglars avoid homes with guns due to risk.

-FFDragon- posted...

2. Once inside, what was the first thing you looked to steal?
Jewelry, electronics, cash and credit cards are all attractive to burglars. Inmates also added collectibles and guns.

“NRA sticker on car bumper = Lots of guns to steal,” wrote one burglar.

Great sample size. One burglar who was caught. When 90% of burglars are never caught.

Lmfao. The stolen items stats don't lie.


Hell, you are better off arguing people don't report all stolen guns because they were unregistered guns stolen. Lmfao.
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PS: We should so listen to the caught burglars on the smart burglar plays. Lmfao.
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StealThisSheen posted...

So MWC is both claiming that he keeps all of his guns loaded with one in the chamber, AND that he keeps 8 guns all in the same place

Is there really any more proof necessary that he doesn't actually own a gun? No gun owner is THAT stupid.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/2okhl3/why_you_should_carry_with_one_in_the_chamber/

One of hundreds that come up when you search it. ANYONE who talks about carry says to keep okenin thenchamber.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

So MWC is both claiming that he keeps all of his guns loaded with one in the chamber, AND that he keeps 8 guns all in the same place

Is there really any more proof necessary that he doesn't actually own a gun? No gun owner is THAT stupid.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/2okhl3/why_you_should_carry_with_one_in_the_chamber/

One of hundreds that come up when you search it. ANYONE who talks about carry says to keep okenin thenchamber.

Yeah, when you have one gun

You supposedly have 8 all right next to each other that you have to fumble around for

Again, nobody is that stupid.
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StealThisSheen posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

So MWC is both claiming that he keeps all of his guns loaded with one in the chamber, AND that he keeps 8 guns all in the same place

Is there really any more proof necessary that he doesn't actually own a gun? No gun owner is THAT stupid.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/2okhl3/why_you_should_carry_with_one_in_the_chamber/

One of hundreds that come up when you search it. ANYONE who talks about carry says to keep okenin thenchamber.

Yeah, when you have one gun

You supposedly have 8 all right next to each other that you have to fumble around for

Again, nobody is that stupid.

They aren't right next to each other. That would make no sense. They are at the corners so you can easily get them. And also so my mom or sister could grab one of the ones with much less kick back and pressure needed to fire.
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mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances
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iiaattgg posted...

mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances

Lmfao at the beginning of this post
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EmDubyaSee posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

So MWC is both claiming that he keeps all of his guns loaded with one in the chamber, AND that he keeps 8 guns all in the same place

Is there really any more proof necessary that he doesn't actually own a gun? No gun owner is THAT stupid.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/2okhl3/why_you_should_carry_with_one_in_the_chamber/

One of hundreds that come up when you search it. ANYONE who talks about carry says to keep okenin thenchamber.

Yeah, when you have one gun

You supposedly have 8 all right next to each other that you have to fumble around for

Again, nobody is that stupid.

They aren't right next to each other. That would make no sense. They are at the corners so you can easily get them. And also so my mom or sister could grab one of the ones with much less kick back and pressure needed to fire.

So you have 8 guns all in the same place and all with one in the chamber

Right
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iiaattgg posted...

mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances

A gun is something you never ever want to need and not have.
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Corrik posted...

This is again how they argue with spin instead of facts. Yes, if they burglarize a house and come across a gun they are taking it. Lmfao. Why wouldn't they? Most guns stolen ate found incidentally as most burglars avoid homes with guns due to risk.

Wait, what was the argument again?

If you're arguing that most criminals don't go into a house specifically to steal guns then... yeah I can see that.

But otherwise it's the person being home that's more of a threat than wherever or not they have a weapon. If only because they wouldn't know if said owner has a weapon or not.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

iiaattgg posted...

mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances

A gun is something you never ever want to need and not have.

thankfully you'd have two in this case!
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Honestly MWC should just put in some pittraps.

Have a gun just "lying around" somewhere. If a robber tries to grab it, down they go! You can even have the pit without spikes if you're one of those "no killing" types.
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iiaattgg posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

iiaattgg posted...

mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances

A gun is something you never ever want to need and not have.

thankfully you'd have two in this case!

Very rarely do I have access to two (and never physically on me) but better 2 than 0
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

This is again how they argue with spin instead of facts. Yes, if they burglarize a house and come across a gun they are taking it. Lmfao. Why wouldn't they? Most guns stolen ate found incidentally as most burglars avoid homes with guns due to risk.

Wait, what was the argument again?

If you're arguing that most criminals don't go into a house specifically to steal guns then... yeah I can see that.

But otherwise it's the person being home that's more of a threat than wherever or not they have a weapon. If only because they wouldn't know if said owner has a weapon or not.

I said normal burglars try to avoid houses that put up signs that state they have guns. It is a deterrent and a normal thing for a normal burglar to simply avoid to minimize risk.

Then they tried arguing burglars specifically try to rob houses with guns for some reason though every single link has guns far down the list of normal stolen items by a large margin. (Literally running out of items to steal to be above it).

I never said a burglar would not take a gun. I said most guns stolen are incidental from finding a gun in a house that they did not know had them.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

iiaattgg posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

iiaattgg posted...

mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances

A gun is something you never ever want to need and not have.

thankfully you'd have two in this case!

Very rarely do I have access to two (and never physically on me) but better 2 than 0

But you said you have access to eight in the same armoire.
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Major health insurance CEOs (who are really not the people who are going to be hurt by BCRA) wrote a joint letter saying that the Cruz amendment is completely unworkable:

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/886015376173268992
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I just wish half of those signs shown earlier weren't so....tryhard. I'm more of a fan of "No trespassing". Short. Simple.
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

This is again how they argue with spin instead of facts. Yes, if they burglarize a house and come across a gun they are taking it. Lmfao. Why wouldn't they? Most guns stolen ate found incidentally as most burglars avoid homes with guns due to risk.

Wait, what was the argument again?

If you're arguing that most criminals don't go into a house specifically to steal guns then... yeah I can see that.

But otherwise it's the person being home that's more of a threat than wherever or not they have a weapon. If only because they wouldn't know if said owner has a weapon or not.

I said normal burglars try to avoid houses that put up signs that state they have guns. It is a deterrent and a normal thing for a normal burglar to simply avoid to minimize risk.

Then they tried arguing burglars specifically try to rob houses with guns for some reason though every single link has guns far down the list of normal stolen items by a large margin. (Literally running out of items to steal to be above it).

I never said a burglar would not take a gun. I said most guns stolen are incidental from finding a gun in a house that they did not know had them.

Literally what does "running out of items" mean?

The original argument was "guns deter burglars".

https://www.safewise.com/blog/10-must-have-items-on-every-burglars-wish-list/

Guns are #6 on the very first result from Google, and in the Top 10 for the others.
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StealThisSheen posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

iiaattgg posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

iiaattgg posted...

mike im usually on your side with these things due to being smart and good at sports but i cant think of any situation where having an excess amount of guns is helpful

two should be the standard most, and three in very very specific circumstances

A gun is something you never ever want to need and not have.

thankfully you'd have two in this case!

Very rarely do I have access to two (and never physically on me) but better 2 than 0

But you said you have access to eight in the same armoire.

That's the very rarely. Anytime I'm in the kitchen. Other than that I never have ready access to more than 1
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who could have ever known that following an argument on board 8 was so complicated!
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Dark Young Link posted...

I just wish half of those signs shown earlier weren't so....tryhard. I'm more of a fan of "No trespassing". Short. Simple.

They are sold at Flea Market and fairs and such. And yes, most of them are needlessly assholish.
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iiaattgg posted...

who could have ever known that following an argument on board 8 was so complicated!

Well to be fair, a lot of times someone is shitposting.

Not that you or I would know anything about that.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

That's the very rarely. Anytime I'm in the kitchen. Other than that I never have ready access to more than 1

So in the place you say that you're in "very rarely," you feel the need to have eight guns in very close proximity to each other that are all "loaded and with one in the chamber"

If you're not lying for attention (you are), you're a psychopath (also possible)
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Corrik posted...

This is again how they argue with spin instead of facts.

Do you not see how YOU are arguing with spin?

None of the lists you cite prove your claim. You are making the leap from "gun are less stolen than other valuables" to "thiefs avoid houses with guns" as if it logically follows A to B

That's not how arguing with facts works
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