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Manocheese
07/11/17 8:48:51 PM
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholding-surveillance-videos-of-crime-to-avoid-stereotypes/

“To release these videos would create a high level of racially insensitive commentary toward the district,” she was told. “And in addition it would create a racial bias in the riders against minorities on the trains.”


"If we release a video of a black person committing a crime, people might think that a black person committed a crime!"
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Questionmarktarius
07/11/17 8:50:01 PM
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Manocheese posted...
"If we release a video of a black person committing a crime, people might think that a black person committed a crime!"

"If we report on a crime and refuse to release the video, people will know for sure!"
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do_ob_tpkillr
07/11/17 8:50:53 PM
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Manocheese posted...
"If we release a video of a black person committing a crime, people might think that all black people commit crimes!"


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Unsugarized_Foo
07/11/17 8:52:00 PM
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I only see whites robbing in home security commercials
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IR_G
07/11/17 8:54:32 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.
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Clad
07/11/17 8:54:51 PM
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Appalling.
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3khc
07/11/17 8:56:37 PM
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Sounds like they. Are doing the right thing based on the times we live in. Bart is woke af.
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 8:57:37 PM
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So instead of accurately describing suspects and releasing video surveillance of violent perpetrators to alert the community and help catch them, these people want to hide it because of their race.

Absolutely sick, sick, sick.
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scorpion41
07/11/17 8:57:59 PM
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IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.


Could you imagine the outrage if they showed black men breaking into a home? Al Sharpton would have the entire network shut down.
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Veggeta_MAX
07/11/17 8:58:45 PM
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What does Street Fighter have to do with this? You guys' Capcom hate is fucking insane.
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Vicious_Dios
07/11/17 8:58:58 PM
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"If we release a video of a black person committing a crime, people might think that a black person committed a crime!"

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Clad
07/11/17 9:00:53 PM
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So basically they're admitting that they want to only show white people committing crimes.
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UnfairRepresent
07/11/17 9:02:03 PM
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IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwnMTaXTys

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ShinigamiSoul
07/11/17 9:03:04 PM
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Manocheese posted...
"If we release a video of a black person committing a crime, people might think that all black people commit crimes!"


Ftfy

You'd be surprised. There are many individuals who lack the capacity to interpret otherwise.
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DoctorPiranha3
07/11/17 9:03:14 PM
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I bet if they were Muslims, she'd have no issues releasing the footage
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TheBiggerWiggle
07/11/17 9:04:20 PM
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Fair, next.

We've seen the increase in violence from Trump's hate speech. What would be the purpose of giving white racists more rhetoric?
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:05:12 PM
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They've been doing this stuff for years and I've been saying it for years. They've gotten so bold and outrageous they actually just come out and admit it now.

Thank god for Trump and Jeff Sessions. This is country has lost its mind.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/11/17 9:05:49 PM
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Clad posted...
So basically they're admitting that they want to only show white people committing crimes.

That's what gets ratings and attention, which means more money. So, yup.
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Seaman_Prime
07/11/17 9:06:38 PM
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so theyre willing to let people get away with crimes for the sake of political correctness? yeah because that mentality went over well over at Rotherham right?
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:06:53 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.


Could you imagine the outrage if they showed black men breaking into a home? Al Sharpton would have the entire network shut down.


Oh yeah. It'd be a major deal. CNN would talk about it and call it "news", the network would get sued, etc. etc.
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AlternativeFAQS
07/11/17 9:07:48 PM
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you people have no understanding as to why they won't release the tapes. media outlets are not supposed to describe a possible criminal unless it's specific enough to lead to something. showing a tape that has two black people won't do shit unless they have high-res images of their face, and even then that's probably not good enough.
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:08:41 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Clad posted...
So basically they're admitting that they want to only show white people committing crimes.

That's what gets ratings and attention, which means more money. So, yup.


Your statement is in direct contradiction with theirs...

"To release these videos would create a high level of racially insensitive commentary toward the district,” she was told. “And in addition it would create a racial bias in the riders against minorities on the trains.”
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Manocheese
07/11/17 9:09:35 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
you people have no understanding as to why they won't release the tapes. media outlets are not supposed to describe a possible criminal unless it's specific enough to lead to something. showing a tape that has two black people won't do shit unless they have high-res images of their face, and even then that's probably not good enough.

Except they aren't refusing to show the videos on the grounds that they there isn't enough detail to identify the criminals. They're refusing simply because of the attackers' skin color.
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:11:40 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
you people have no understanding as to why they won't release the tapes. media outlets are not supposed to describe a possible criminal unless it's specific enough to lead to something. showing a tape that has two black people won't do shit unless they have high-res images of their face, and even then that's probably not good enough.


Most ridiculous post I've seen all day. They describe suspects and release whatever footage of a crime occurring/sketches/body description, etc. all the time. Of course, obviously not in liberal San Francisco because it's "INSENSITIVE"
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AlternativeFAQS
07/11/17 9:12:00 PM
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Manocheese posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
you people have no understanding as to why they won't release the tapes. media outlets are not supposed to describe a possible criminal unless it's specific enough to lead to something. showing a tape that has two black people won't do shit unless they have high-res images of their face, and even then that's probably not good enough.

Except they aren't refusing to show the videos on the grounds that they there isn't enough detail to identify the criminals. They're refusing simply because of the attackers' skin color.


right. their skin color is not enough to identify them and all it's gonna do is fuel hatred against black people, which is exactly why journalists aren't supposed to do it. I literally just explained that.
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Etherealfare
07/11/17 9:13:57 PM
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To those defending the statement - y'all realize you are quite literally defending a euphemistic statement that is cloaking this:

"We know what's best for the public and for you so no need to see the truth"

as this:




"To release these videos would create a high level of racially insensitive commentary toward the district,” she was told. “And in addition it would create a racial bias in the riders against minorities on the trains.”

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Clad
07/11/17 9:15:31 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
Manocheese posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
you people have no understanding as to why they won't release the tapes. media outlets are not supposed to describe a possible criminal unless it's specific enough to lead to something. showing a tape that has two black people won't do shit unless they have high-res images of their face, and even then that's probably not good enough.

Except they aren't refusing to show the videos on the grounds that they there isn't enough detail to identify the criminals. They're refusing simply because of the attackers' skin color.


right. their skin color is not enough to identify them and all it's gonna do is fuel hatred against black people, which is exactly why journalists aren't supposed to do it. I literally just explained that.


So they shouldn't show anything pertaining to white skinned people either? Because knowing at least the skin color/height/frame of a suspect is not sufficient in any way?
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 9:15:44 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
They've been doing this stuff for years and I've been saying it for years. They've gotten so bold and outrageous they actually just come out and admit it now.

Thank god for Trump and Jeff Sessions. This is country has lost its mind.


Yeah thank God for a man who support the KKK until he found out some of them did weed.
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:17:44 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
aren't supposed to do it


Where are you even getting this from? Leftist No Negative Portrayal 101? News stations used to cover and report news. Many don't anymore, and this one in particular states explicitly they don't report the news because it shows the people what is actually happening!
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Ammonitida
07/11/17 9:25:23 PM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Fair, next.

We've seen the increase in violence from Trump's hate speech. What would be the purpose of giving white racists more rhetoric?


We've seen no such increase, unless you're counting hoaxes and unverified facebook posts. For the most serious hate crime (murder), whites have been the majority of victims this year (five white men have been murdered for their race so far in 2017, as compared to three minorities).

And the very act of attempting to conceal this information has actually given white racists more rhetoric. This story is all over conservative media now and is probably making the rounds on every white supremacist site there is. I'm sure they're blaming the Jews for it. Nice going.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/11/17 9:28:29 PM
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Ammonitida
07/11/17 9:28:58 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Capn Circus posted...
They've been doing this stuff for years and I've been saying it for years. They've gotten so bold and outrageous they actually just come out and admit it now.

Thank god for Trump and Jeff Sessions. This is country has lost its mind.


Yeah thank God for a man who support the KKK until he found out some of them did weed.


Jeff Sessions made that joke in response to a possible delay of the murder trial due to an investigation of the "weed" charges. It was sarcastic.
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IR_G
07/11/17 9:32:15 PM
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Let's be honest: do we really care about this? How many of us would bother discussing this in real life setting in the presence of various demographics?
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 9:36:13 PM
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Ammonitida posted...

Jeff Sessions made that joke in response to a possible delay of the murder trial due to an investigation of the "weed" charges. It was sarcastic.


Oh it was joke, but yet we have seen his actions display this very mindset.
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AlternativeFAQS
07/11/17 9:36:44 PM
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Clad posted...
So they shouldn't show anything pertaining to white skinned people either? Because knowing at least the skin color/height/frame of a suspect is not sufficient in any way?


hey now you're gettin it
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Ammonitida
07/11/17 9:44:06 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Ammonitida posted...

Jeff Sessions made that joke in response to a possible delay of the murder trial due to an investigation of the "weed" charges. It was sarcastic.


Oh it was joke, but yet we have seen his actions display this very mindset.


No we haven't.
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:46:53 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Reminds me of this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/#4096c39d754a


Absolutely sick
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Ammonitida
07/11/17 9:48:53 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Clad posted...
So basically they're admitting that they want to only show white people committing crimes.

That's what gets ratings and attention, which means more money. So, yup.


Your statement is in direct contradiction with theirs...

"To release these videos would create a high level of racially insensitive commentary toward the district,” she was told. “And in addition it would create a racial bias in the riders against minorities on the trains.”



Then no more information on race should be released about cops who kill unarmed black men. We don't want Leftists calling all white cops racists based on the actions of a handful, leading to anti-white hate crimes like the Micah Johnson massacre in Dallas last year. And no more race info on school shooters. Do we really need to give the left more ammunition on "white people shooting up schools"?
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:52:24 PM
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IR_G posted...
Let's be honest: do we really care about this? How many of us would bother discussing this in real life setting in the presence of various demographics?


I do, along with others in this topic. Do you? Apparently not. You must not think it's a big deal for information about violent criminals being hidden from a community specifically on the basis of race. You probably even agree with it.

Who are the varying demographics? My friends? Complete strangers I've never spoken a word to? If it's the former, then yes it likely will be discussed in real life.
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Bloodychess
07/11/17 9:53:28 PM
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IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.

Thats rare nowadays
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 9:56:50 PM
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IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.


Nah. Not really. In this home security commercial, there is a black man. He's defending the house against these white criminals, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0tcTC0N0xc

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Ammonitida
07/11/17 9:58:30 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.


Nah. Not really. In this home security commercial, there is a black man. He's defending the house against these white criminals, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0tcTC0N0xc


That's Ving Rhames though. I have no problem with that.
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 10:05:20 PM
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Ammonitida posted...

No we haven't.


Session attacking the NAACP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/02/jeff-sessionss-comments-on-race-for-the-record/?utm_term=.b2e37a3c38e9


Session upping the mandatory minimum for drugs, which happen to the effect a larger percent of the minorities. When when the rate of drug use between the groups are the same.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/12/mandatory-minimum-drug-sentences-jeff-sessions-238295
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 10:06:49 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Capn Circus posted...
IR_G posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I only see whites robbing in home security commercials

You'll see only whites in most commercials, period.


Nah. Not really. In this home security commercial, there is a black man. He's defending the house against these white criminals, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0tcTC0N0xc


That's Ving Rhames though. I have no problem with that.


I wouldn't have a problem with it either if we didn't live in a reality where only white people can be used in home security commercials as criminals and we have people refusing to release videos of violent incidents that pertain to everyday commuters because it's supposedly racially insensitive and stereotypical.
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 10:15:40 PM
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Capn Circus posted...


I wouldn't have a problem with it either if we didn't live in a reality where only white people can be used in home security commercials as criminals and we have people refusing to release videos of violent incidents that pertain to everyday commuters because it's supposedly racially insensitive and stereotypical.


So not seeing blurry stills upset you that much ?
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Capn Circus
07/11/17 10:49:58 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Capn Circus posted...


I wouldn't have a problem with it either if we didn't live in a reality where only white people can be used in home security commercials as criminals and we have people refusing to release videos of violent incidents that pertain to everyday commuters because it's supposedly racially insensitive and stereotypical.


So not seeing blurry stills upset you that much ?


No. What upsets me is events aren't being fully reported because perpetrators are of a certain race. If the videos are so benign and useless as you've described them, there's really no reason they should be withheld from the public. Except in this case, we know the reason why they are being withheld from the public.

People deserve to know what is happening in their communities. Being that these security videos are funded by tax payer dollars, they should not intentionally be hidden and kept away from the public solely because the race of the perpetrators happened to be black.
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cjsdowg
07/11/17 10:54:45 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Except in this case, we know the reason why they are being withheld from the public.


Because people judge all black people on the actions of a few.
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ColdOne666
07/11/17 10:58:22 PM
#48:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Fair, next.

We've seen the increase in violence from Trump's hate speech. What would be the purpose of giving white racists more rhetoric?


What a moron.
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CruelBuffalo
07/11/17 10:59:01 PM
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SF =/= Bart

Because they were minors they would blur the faces so what would be the point of releasing the video if you can't figure out who the kids are other than to circle jerk to something ?
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E32005
07/11/17 10:59:49 PM
#50:


do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Manocheese posted...
"If we release a video of a black person committing a crime, people might think that all black people commit crimes!"


Ftfy

this. wtf is wrong with you, tc?
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