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That_Happened
07/12/17 1:08:39 PM
#51:


Muffinz0rz posted...
So, I should see a therapist because I have quality brain processing capabilities?

Muffinz0rz posted...
Schools are the ones that are stealing childhoods

Muffinz0rz posted...
College and the real world will surely rob them of their innocence soon enough.

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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 1:54:30 PM
#52:


That_Happened posted...
Um when you're an adult and have responsibilities around the home, getting those things done can definitely be beneficial to your mental health. It feels phenomenal to do work that I enjoy (handywork, gardening, etc) rather than the job I get paid to do, and when those things are done it's a very calming feeling.

>work that I enjoy
>work
>enjoy

Pick one

If you're doing something you enjoy, it's not work. Even if it's your 9-5 job. That may be your "job," but it's not "work" if you enjoy it.

That_Happened posted...
Not everyone takes a mental health day to be a sloth and play video games all day.

I never said it had to be video games. I was simply using video games as an example of what one's desired free-time activity might be. For me, it's video games. For someone else, it's reading. Or golfing. Or a myriad of other things.

That_Happened posted...
At this point I'm just going to assume you're a teenager.

You're welcome to assume what you want, but all I can say is that you're wrong. But hey, your response is just going to be "no, you're a teenager because I said so even though I have no way of knowing," so I'm just not going to bother.

shockthemonkey posted...
TC is the most easily confused person on this board. Maybe he's still young and he's having a boring summer vacation. Definitely doesn't seem like he's finished maturing.

Classic baseless accusation with no substance.

Schools are the ones that are stealing childhoods

You know, cherry-picking is really an effective way to make yourself look like you know what you're doing, when you really don't. See, for those who may not have seen where you're pulling this from, it implies to said reader that I'm trying to abolish school altogether. I mean, why not? School robs children of their childhoods, so why not get rid of it altogether? Oh, wait, of course that doesn't make sense, but then again, that's not what I said. Hence, the cherry-picking. But, hey, it's not like you addressed the point I was actually making or anything, so why would anyone expect to take you seriously?

College and the real world will surely rob them of their innocence soon enough.

I fail to see what's wrong with this. The youthful innocence of a child is gone, and the real world is to blame.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 2:01:44 PM
#54:


shockthemonkey posted...
Evidence: this topic

Nailed it

Why not elaborate? What's wrong with the topic? You can keep thinking you "nailed it," but until you provide actual evidence within the topic, then just saying "this topic" means nothing.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 2:05:58 PM
#56:


shockthemonkey posted...
It's ok if it doesn't make sense to you.

Translation: You have nothing to back yourself up.

Thanks for playing.
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That_Happened
07/12/17 2:52:00 PM
#58:


Muffinz0rz posted...
>work that I enjoy
>work
>enjoy

Pick one

If you're doing something you enjoy, it's not work. Even if it's your 9-5 job. That may be your "job," but it's not "work" if you enjoy it.

Amazing.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 2:56:03 PM
#59:


shockthemonkey posted...
I won.

Irony is you thinking you won, and then the next post is actually me winning because he can't figure out what to say
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:03:05 PM
#61:


shockthemonkey posted...
That's not ironic. You lose.

>Can't think of any better trolling than simple "I win you lose" bait.

1/10, not original, needs more content
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Perascamin
07/12/17 3:08:07 PM
#62:


Bio1590 posted...
When you've been working on the same project for the last 5 months and made very little progress at some point you just need a break.

If you've worked on something for 5 months and made little progress you should be fucking fired.
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Tryhaptaward
07/12/17 3:10:47 PM
#64:


Perascamin posted...
Bio1590 posted...
When you've been working on the same project for the last 5 months and made very little progress at some point you just need a break.

If you've worked on something for 5 months and made little progress you should be fucking fired.


with how much time he spends on CE and obsessing over certain users, it would be a no brainer
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ShadowElite86
07/12/17 3:11:07 PM
#65:


Relient_K posted...
I get 32 paid days off a year currently. It's great.

The hell.....where do you work?
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Perascamin
07/12/17 3:15:25 PM
#66:


I have a different question. Why call it a mental health day in the first place? If you say mental health, it's instantly associated with something like depression...Something that cannot be fixed in one day. To use such a term in place of "hey, I'm gonna spend some time with my family tomorrow" makes someone sound like a complete wuss.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:37:21 PM
#68:


shockthemonkey posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
That's not ironic. You lose.

>Can't think of any better trolling than simple "I win you lose" bait.

1/10, not original, needs more content

It's been as effective as your long rants with considerably less stupidity.

>Writing someone off as a troll because you can't think of a good response

0/10 Just admit you're in over your head and leave with what's left of your dignity.

ShadowElite86 posted...
Relient_K posted...
I get 32 paid days off a year currently. It's great.

The hell.....where do you work?

This really isn't that much. Using my job as an example, which is a typical 9-5 corporate job where I haven't been for all that long (since being at a company for a long time often leads to more PTO), I get 3 weeks of straight PTO. That's about average for an entry-level first time employee at a new company. That's 15 days, since weekends don't count. Next is "float holidays" or sick days. There are typically a set number of those per year. For me, it's 5, which counts for an additional week. That's 20 days. And finally, holidays. Using my company as an example, we get 8 paid, recognized holidays, where we are paid for the day off. So 15 + 5 + 8 = 28 paid days off a year.

I'm willing to bet that Relient_K has been at his company longer and/or it offers better PTO for new employees. My guess is that he gets 4 weeks of PTO, which would be 33 paid days at my company (if you include the sick days and recognized holidays), but doesn't offer Presidents Day off (not every company does or has to).

tl;dr: 32 really isn't that much when you think about it.

shockthemonkey posted...
Perascamin posted...
I have a different question. Why call it a mental health day in the first place? If you say mental health, it's instantly associated with something like depression...Something that cannot be fixed in one day. To use such a term in place of "hey, I'm gonna spend some time with my family tomorrow" makes someone sound like a complete wuss.

Everyone else can understand the meaning just fine, why are you and tc struggling?

If it's so easy, why haven't you explained it yet? Oh, yeah, because it's easier to just say "you're wrong" and move on.
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eston
07/12/17 3:43:37 PM
#70:


Nobody wants to explain something to you for the 50th time only to have you argue anyway. At this point you're just being willfully ignorant
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07/12/17 3:44:31 PM
#71:


Perascamin posted...
I have a different question. Why call it a mental health day in the first place? If you say mental health, it's instantly associated with something like depression...Something that cannot be fixed in one day. To use such a term in place of "hey, I'm gonna spend some time with my family tomorrow" makes someone sound like a complete wuss.

Because mental health is not associated only with depression. That's something you're assuming. Stress plays a huge role in mental health, and "mental health days" are largely intended to relieve stress.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:44:48 PM
#72:


shockthemonkey posted...
There's an entire first page of people explaining it. I'm mocking you because you're still confused. Try to follow along.

eston posted...
Nobody wants to explain something to you for the 50th time only to have you argue anyway. At this point you're just being willfully ignorant

I've objected to every single post. Nobody's followed up. It's not like I'm sitting here and not reading any posts. You can see I've replied to every single one that raises any questions.
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Error1355
07/12/17 3:45:44 PM
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:48:28 PM
#75:


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Because mental health is not associated only with depression. That's something you're assuming.

That's the problem. My issue is with the name. I've indicated in the topic that I have no problem with taking the day off to relieve stress. But calling it a "mental health day" makes it sound like someone needs to go home for a therapy appointment and to meditate or some shit like that, when in reality, one is just going home to do whatever they want.

Both days refer to the same thing and accomplish the same thing -- to go home and relax and relieve stress. But people who call it a "mental health day" are trying to glorify it and make it seem like they have to take the day off or their head will explode.

shockthemonkey posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
There's an entire first page of people explaining it. I'm mocking you because you're still confused. Try to follow along.

eston posted...
Nobody wants to explain something to you for the 50th time only to have you argue anyway. At this point you're just being willfully ignorant

I've objected to every single post. Nobody's followed up. It's not like I'm sitting here and not reading any posts. You can see I've replied to every single one that raises any questions.

Your objections have been stupid and have been ignoring what everyone is telling you.

Which is why you lose.

"You're stupid because I said so"

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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:48:54 PM
#76:


shockthemonkey posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
There's an entire first page of people explaining it. I'm mocking you because you're still confused. Try to follow along.

eston posted...
Nobody wants to explain something to you for the 50th time only to have you argue anyway. At this point you're just being willfully ignorant

I've objected to every single post. Nobody's followed up. It's not like I'm sitting here and not reading any posts. You can see I've replied to every single one that raises any questions.

Your objections have been stupid and have been ignoring what everyone is telling you.

Which is why you lose.

"You're stupid because I said so"

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eston
07/12/17 3:49:19 PM
#77:


Muffinz0rz posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
There's an entire first page of people explaining it. I'm mocking you because you're still confused. Try to follow along.

eston posted...
Nobody wants to explain something to you for the 50th time only to have you argue anyway. At this point you're just being willfully ignorant

I've objected to every single post. Nobody's followed up. It's not like I'm sitting here and not reading any posts. You can see I've replied to every single one that raises any questions.

I'm not seeing how that makes you less wrong
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:49:56 PM
#79:


eston posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
There's an entire first page of people explaining it. I'm mocking you because you're still confused. Try to follow along.

eston posted...
Nobody wants to explain something to you for the 50th time only to have you argue anyway. At this point you're just being willfully ignorant

I've objected to every single post. Nobody's followed up. It's not like I'm sitting here and not reading any posts. You can see I've replied to every single one that raises any questions.

I'm not seeing how that makes you less wrong

Because nobody is saying what's wrong. Like sparky here, people are just saying "you're wrong because I said so" and not saying exactly what's wrong.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:50:49 PM
#81:


shockthemonkey posted...
Everyone else understands that mental health day means "day to chill and decompress" except for you. Why is that everyone else's fault?

I never said that wasn't what it meant. I know what it means. My problem is with the name. It makes people seem like they genuinely have an illness or something. Which can happen, of course, but people use it as an excuse to make it seem like they're working on their psyche.
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eston
07/12/17 3:52:55 PM
#83:


Muffinz0rz posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Everyone else understands that mental health day means "day to chill and decompress" except for you. Why is that everyone else's fault?

I never said that wasn't what it meant. I know what it means. My problem is with the name. It makes people seem like they genuinely have an illness or something. Which can happen, of course, but people use it as an excuse to make it seem like they're working on their psyche.

It only seems this way to you though, because you choose to make up your own definition to a common phrase that everyone else already gets
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 3:58:50 PM
#84:


shockthemonkey posted...
Your poor understanding of the phrase "mental health" is no one else's fault but your own.

Muffinz0rz posted...
I never said that wasn't what it meant. I know what it means. My problem is with the name. It makes people seem like they genuinely have an illness or something. Which can happen, of course, but people use it as an excuse to make it seem like they're working on their psyche.

eston posted...
It only seems this way to you though, because you choose to make up your own definition to a common phrase that everyone else already gets

Perascamin posted...
If you say mental health, it's instantly associated with something like depression...Something that cannot be fixed in one day. To use such a term in place of "hey, I'm gonna spend some time with my family tomorrow" makes someone sound like a complete wuss.

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The Great Muta 22
07/12/17 4:04:06 PM
#86:


What's the TCs problem with meditation and yoga?
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 4:06:44 PM
#87:


shockthemonkey posted...
You have in no way replied to what I said with any defense for your own pointless refusal to understand a basic phrase.

You have in no way replied to what I said in response to your piss-poor attempt at trolling, so there's no real point in bothering.

The Great Muta 22 posted...
What's the TCs problem with meditation and yoga?

I have no problem with meditation and yoga. But that doesn't take an 8 hour workday to do.
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That_Happened
07/12/17 4:12:55 PM
#89:


eston posted...
It only seems this way to you though, because you choose to make up your own definition to a common phrase that everyone else already gets

Yup. The majority of people understand what a mental health day is and don't make a big issue out of the verbiage. It's just the occasional derp that turns "mental health" into "you fucking wuss!" and "school day" into "stealing the childhood of the innocent."
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I4NRulez
07/12/17 4:14:58 PM
#91:


If you've ever worked at a real company they have so many options to avoid employee burnout.

This topic is dumb and you should feel bad.
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VGAddict90
07/12/17 4:19:22 PM
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I think TC is slow.
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Muffinz0rz
07/12/17 4:40:17 PM
#94:


shockthemonkey posted...
lmao how is he still confused?

You realize you're playing the part of the guy who, when challenged, looks around the room and tries to make sure people are watching, rather than actually paying attention to the present discussion. So, until you respond to my points, you will not be responded to in return.

That_Happened posted...
Yup. The majority of people understand what a mental health day is and don't make a big issue out of the verbiage. It's just the occasional derp that turns "mental health" into "you fucking wuss!" and "school day" into "stealing the childhood of the innocent."

I'm not being dense here. The verbiage can be misleading, especially in today's day and age of everyone and their mother suffering from some sort of depression/anxiety/etc. But, like sparky here, you still haven't replied to my points (as outlined in post #52 - your post in #58 doesn't count). Let me give you an example as to why it's not farfetch'd to link "mental health" and "depression" or other mental illnesses:

The month of May is known as "Mental Health Awareness Month." That's right, since 1949, we have had an entire month dedicated to mental health awareness. If you look, the description is:

Its purpose is to raise awareness and educate the public about: mental illnesses, such as depression, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder; the realities of living with these conditions; and strategies for attaining mental health and wellness. It also aims to draw attention to suicide, which can be precipitated by some mental illnesses. Additionally, Mental Health Awareness Month strives to reduce the stigma (negative attitudes and misconceptions) that surrounds mental illnesses. The month came about by presidential proclamation.[7]


So, since 1949, it's not uncommon to think of actual mental illnesses when someone says "mental health day." The implication is that one is taking the day off to work on these diseases.

But if you want to keep missing the point, which lies with the verbiage, and instead stick with the easy way out, then go for it. I'll rest easy knowing that you have nothing of value to say.

Asherlee10 posted...
Colloquially, "taking a mental health day" means you're just taking a break but you aren't physically ill, going on a vacation, or there is something terribly wrong. It just means you're taking a break.

Yes. That's called a day off. There's no reason to drag "mental health" into it.

I4NRulez posted...
If you've ever worked at a real company they have so many options to avoid employee burnout.

Yeah, it's called PTO and sick days.

shockthemonkey posted...
VGAddict90 posted...
I think TC is slow.

You're just saying that because he can't grasp simple concepts.

No, by all means, continue with the insults. It is easier than actively participating in the discussion like an intelligent human.
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DarkChozoGhost
07/12/17 4:41:35 PM
#95:


Muffinz0rz posted...
I have no problem with taking the day off to relieve stress

Is relieving stress good for your mental health? Yes, it is.

Muffinz0rz posted...
people who call it a "mental health day" are trying to glorify it and make it seem like they have to take the day off or their head will explode.

No they are not.

shockthemonkey posted...
Everyone else understands that mental health day means "day to chill and decompress" except for you


eston posted...
you choose to make up your own definition to a common phrase that everyone else already gets

These

Muffinz0rz posted...
It makes people seem like they genuinely have an illness or something.

No, it doesn't. When people use the phrase, they just mean "a day to chill and relieve stress. They do not pretend it's some unbearable pain they have to relieve. Your issue with the term is 100% a connotation that you've personally attributed to it, when everyone else understands just what it means.
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07/12/17 4:41:38 PM
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Addressing mental health is good for both sides of the coin. It keeps the workers less burnt out and it can help to ensure the quality of the worker remains productive. As long as not taken in excess, these "mental health days", "alternative sick day" or "I'm growing slowly disgruntled and want to screw around days" are an excellent step in the right direction.
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That_Happened
07/12/17 4:59:35 PM
#98:


Muffinz0rz posted...
I'm not being dense here. The verbiage can be misleading, especially


...if you're stupid, trolling, or purposely missing the point. Or all three.
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TheBiggerWiggle
07/12/17 5:02:18 PM
#100:


TC is either stupid or trolling. The phrase has been explained to him multiple times in multiple ways at this point. If he can't understand it now he never will.

I do wish TC would give us some perspective on what he actually does though. Why is he so willfully ignorant?
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