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JohnLennon6 07/13/17 6:54:17 AM #51:	do_ob_tpkillr posted... Sojy posted... To the people who are saying they don't want these people receiving taxpayer housing: What is your alternative solution? They are causing a problem that is attracting armed rangers. They cannot afford homes of their own. So what exactly do you want them to do if sleeping in public is no longer acceptable? Literally the only place they can sleep is in public. Don't give a fuck, not my problem. Out of my backyard, that's all I care. Oh, and has Hawaii considered erecting some defensive architecture? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:882829205] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>do_ob_tpkillr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sojy posted...</cite> <quote>To the people who are saying they don't want these people receiving taxpayer housing: What is your alternative solution? They are causing a problem that is attracting armed rangers. They cannot afford homes of their own. So what exactly do you want them to do if sleeping in public is no longer acceptable? Literally the only place they can sleep is in public.</quote> Don't give a fuck, not my problem. Out of my backyard, that's all I care. Oh, and has Hawaii considered erecting some defensive architecture?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YonicBoom 07/13/17 7:01:39 AM #52:	I just wanna know where exactly these "armed rangers" are meant to put the homeless once they apprehend them. Take them to jail? Tell them to go to a different beach? We're talking about a demographic who are pretty much screwed for the rest of their lives. Shitty living conditions make it pretty hard to do anything for anyone, I don't care how "good" you think you are. --- RIP TurboAE86 (19XX-2017) - No amount of Scrotal Googling could find him peace in this mortal world. "See ya, space cowboy." <cite>YonicBoom posted [p:882829348] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>I just wanna know where exactly these "armed rangers" are meant to put the homeless once they apprehend them. Take them to jail? Tell them to go to a different beach? We're talking about a demographic who are pretty much screwed for the rest of their lives. Shitty living conditions make it pretty hard to do anything for anyone, I don't care how "good" you think you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 07/13/17 7:20:02 AM #54:	@JohnLennon6 actually believes that homeless people want to be homeless and just simply don't want to get a job Incredible. Really plunging new depths of stupidity here --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:882829736] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>@JohnLennon6 actually believes that homeless people want to be homeless and just simply don't want to get a job Incredible. Really plunging new depths of stupidity here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePredominate 07/13/17 7:31:52 AM #55:	pinky0926 posted... @JohnLennon6 actually believes that homeless people want to be homeless and just simply don't want to get a job Incredible. Really plunging new depths of stupidity here Some of the people here sound like they're hillbillies tbh. There's a guy around where I live who is homeless, he used to live with his gf in one of the local houses but she apparently died from cancer. And I guess he just broke and couldn't go on, he looks unbelievably vacant and sad, I can hardly look at him most of the time I walk past. --- Keep your face to the Sunshine, and you will not see the Shadows. <cite>ThePredominate posted [p:882830007] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>@JohnLennon6 actually believes that homeless people want to be homeless and just simply don't want to get a job Incredible. Really plunging new depths of stupidity here</quote> Some of the people here sound like they're hillbillies tbh. There's a guy around where I live who is homeless, he used to live with his gf in one of the local houses but she apparently died from cancer. And I guess he just broke and couldn't go on, he looks unbelievably vacant and sad, I can hardly look at him most of the time I walk past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 07/13/17 7:47:20 AM #56:	Buying a one way ticket is brilliant honestly. --- 3DS FC: 0087-2410-1340 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:882830373] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Buying a one way ticket is brilliant honestly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/13/17 8:03:13 AM #57:	Why don't you guys in the US just label them refugees, put them all in a big ass boat like Noah's Ark and send them to Canada, Australia and the U.K.? Those places are utopia and welcome all, plus they can't say no because they are alway shitting on you for not being as enlightened as them. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882830780] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Why don't you guys in the US just label them refugees, put them all in a big ass boat like Noah's Ark and send them to Canada, Australia and the U.K.? Those places are utopia and welcome all, plus they can't say no because they are alway shitting on you for not being as enlightened as them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/13/17 10:10:45 AM #58:	Let's get real here. Having these homeless people stink up the beach isn't helping anyone. For the tourists, it's ruining their experience. For the businesses, it's hurting their revenue. For the state/city, it starts to hurt their tax dollars (which means less in social services for these homeless). And for the homeless, it corrals them into a relatively lawless arena that doesn't address their issues. But we also need to clear about the differences in homelessness, since not all homeless people are the same. There are three general reasons why people are homeless, and the remedy is different in each case. 1. The mentally ill. According to this research, roughly 45% of all homeless people are mentally ill, and 25% are severely mentally ill: https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/consequences/homeless-mentally-ill.html For those folks, mindless responses like "give them a home" would be ineffective, since they don't have the skills to maintain it and would possibly even put themselves at danger, not to mention being easy targets for victimization by others. These folks need proper help and attention from the government, and we've collectively done a horrendous job as a country at providing this. 2. People who can't find work due to the economy. These folks need a support system, which should start with their families, first and foremost. Living in squalor on a beach makes it close to impossible to find work. As a secondary solution, these folks would benefit from continued education to acquire new skills. Instead of just arresting them/shuffling them, government officials should provide them with counseling on low-cost or free avenues they can engage in to acquire these skills. Give them the proper tools to help themselves. 3. Able-bodied people who don't want to work. These folks need to fuck off and stop being leeches on society. I have no problem forcibly relocating them somewhere else where they don't inconvenience others. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882835061] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Let's get real here. Having these homeless people stink up the beach isn't helping anyone. For the tourists, it's ruining their experience. For the businesses, it's hurting their revenue. For the state/city, it starts to hurt their tax dollars (which means less in social services for these homeless). And for the homeless, it corrals them into a relatively lawless arena that doesn't address their issues. But we also need to clear about the differences in homelessness, since not all homeless people are the same. There are three general reasons why people are homeless, and the remedy is different in each case. 1. The mentally ill. According to this research, roughly 45% of all homeless people are mentally ill, and 25% are severely mentally ill: https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/consequences/homeless-mentally-ill.html For those folks, mindless responses like "give them a home" would be ineffective, since they don't have the skills to maintain it and would possibly even put themselves at danger, not to mention being easy targets for victimization by others. These folks need proper help and attention from the government, and we've collectively done a horrendous job as a country at providing this. 2. People who can't find work due to the economy. These folks need a support system, which should start with their families, first and foremost. Living in squalor on a beach makes it close to impossible to find work. As a secondary solution, these folks would benefit from continued education to acquire new skills. Instead of just arresting them/shuffling them, government officials should provide them with counseling on low-cost or free avenues they can engage in to acquire these skills. Give them the proper tools to help themselves. 3. Able-bodied people who don't want to work. These folks need to fuck off and stop being leeches on society. I have no problem forcibly relocating them somewhere else where they don't inconvenience others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/13/17 10:21:18 AM #59:	The Admiral posted... 1. The mentally ill. According to this research, roughly 45% of all homeless people are mentally ill, and 25% are severely mentally ill: https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/consequences/homeless-mentally-ill.html For those folks, mindless responses like "give them a home" would be ineffective, since they don't have the skills to maintain it and would possibly even put themselves at danger, not to mention being easy targets for victimization by others. These folks need proper help and attention from the government, and we've collectively done a horrendous job as a country at providing this. Fair points. I just want to add that sometimes the mentally ill don't even want to stay in the home you provide. I know a few who straight up just leave when they want, whether it's on foot or by car. It's scary because they won't always let you know, and they might not even be in the right frame of mind to return safely. Why they leave varies. I've seen the ones where it's really just them asserting their independence, but I've heard of others who aren't fully aware of what they're doing. It's a tricky situation. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882835500] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>1. The mentally ill. According to this research, roughly 45% of all homeless people are mentally ill, and 25% are severely mentally ill: https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/consequences/homeless-mentally-ill.html For those folks, mindless responses like "give them a home" would be ineffective, since they don't have the skills to maintain it and would possibly even put themselves at danger, not to mention being easy targets for victimization by others. These folks need proper help and attention from the government, and we've collectively done a horrendous job as a country at providing this. </quote> Fair points. I just want to add that sometimes the mentally ill don't even want to stay in the home you provide. I know a few who straight up just leave when they want, whether it's on foot or by car. It's scary because they won't always let you know, and they might not even be in the right frame of mind to return safely. Why they leave varies. I've seen the ones where it's really just them asserting their independence, but I've heard of others who aren't fully aware of what they're doing. It's a tricky situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby 07/13/17 10:22:46 AM #60:	pinky0926 posted... @JohnLennon6 actually believes that homeless people want to be homeless and just simply don't want to get a job Incredible. Really plunging new depths of stupidity here It's not always the case, but I actually have met several homeless who just chose to give up everything and were tired of dealing with issues at home and went to the street. One guy in particular was still married and I knew his wife and son in town, but he never saw them and didn't appear to have a desire to see them. --- Bender: You know, I was God once. God: Yes, I saw. You were doing well until everyone died. <cite>Kirby posted [p:882835573] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>@JohnLennon6 actually believes that homeless people want to be homeless and just simply don't want to get a job Incredible. Really plunging new depths of stupidity here</quote> It's not always the case, but I actually have met several homeless who just chose to give up everything and were tired of dealing with issues at home and went to the street. One guy in particular was still married and I knew his wife and son in town, but he never saw them and didn't appear to have a desire to see them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/13/17 10:41:02 AM #61:	Holy Strawman Batman! --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:882836405] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Holy Strawman Batman!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/13/17 12:10:07 PM #62:	I dont want to give them homes because it will make me feel insecure about working for my living. So I rather be a shity human being and die that way, as long as NO FREE HOUSING!!! --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:882840764] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>I dont want to give them homes because it will make me feel insecure about working for my living. So I rather be a shity human being and die that way, as long as NO FREE HOUSING!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonAngeI 07/13/17 12:12:04 PM #63:	Homeless doesn't mean jobless you know? --- https://i.imgtc.com/MEH27cg.png <cite>CrimsonAngeI posted [p:882840857] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Homeless doesn't mean jobless you know?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/13/17 2:48:22 PM #64:	hyperpowder posted... I dont want to give them homes because it will make me feel insecure about working for my living. So I rather be a shity human being and die that way, as long as NO FREE HOUSING!!! Why should you get free housing when the rest of us have to pay for it? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:882849683] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote>I dont want to give them homes because it will make me feel insecure about working for my living. So I rather be a shity human being and die that way, as long as NO FREE HOUSING!!!</quote> Why should you get free housing when the rest of us have to pay for it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/13/17 2:51:08 PM #65:	The Admiral posted... Let's get real here. Having these homeless people stink up the beach isn't helping anyone. For the tourists, it's ruining their experience. For the businesses, it's hurting their revenue. For the state/city, it starts to hurt their tax dollars (which means less in social services for these homeless). And for the homeless, it corrals them into a relatively lawless arena that doesn't address their issues. But we also need to clear about the differences in homelessness, since not all homeless people are the same. There are three general reasons why people are homeless, and the remedy is different in each case. 1. The mentally ill. According to this research, roughly 45% of all homeless people are mentally ill, and 25% are severely mentally ill: https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/consequences/homeless-mentally-ill.html For those folks, mindless responses like "give them a home" would be ineffective, since they don't have the skills to maintain it and would possibly even put themselves at danger, not to mention being easy targets for victimization by others. These folks need proper help and attention from the government, and we've collectively done a horrendous job as a country at providing this. 2. People who can't find work due to the economy. These folks need a support system, which should start with their families, first and foremost. Living in squalor on a beach makes it close to impossible to find work. As a secondary solution, these folks would benefit from continued education to acquire new skills. Instead of just arresting them/shuffling them, government officials should provide them with counseling on low-cost or free avenues they can engage in to acquire these skills. Give them the proper tools to help themselves. 3. Able-bodied people who don't want to work. These folks need to fuck off and stop being leeches on society. I have no problem forcibly relocating them somewhere else where they don't inconvenience others. wtf an Admiral post that makes sense and I agree with? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL ADMIRAL!? --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:882849833] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Let's get real here. Having these homeless people stink up the beach isn't helping anyone. For the tourists, it's ruining their experience. For the businesses, it's hurting their revenue. For the state/city, it starts to hurt their tax dollars (which means less in social services for these homeless). And for the homeless, it corrals them into a relatively lawless arena that doesn't address their issues. But we also need to clear about the differences in homelessness, since not all homeless people are the same. There are three general reasons why people are homeless, and the remedy is different in each case. 1. The mentally ill. According to this research, roughly 45% of all homeless people are mentally ill, and 25% are severely mentally ill: https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/consequences/homeless-mentally-ill.html For those folks, mindless responses like "give them a home" would be ineffective, since they don't have the skills to maintain it and would possibly even put themselves at danger, not to mention being easy targets for victimization by others. These folks need proper help and attention from the government, and we've collectively done a horrendous job as a country at providing this. 2. People who can't find work due to the economy. These folks need a support system, which should start with their families, first and foremost. Living in squalor on a beach makes it close to impossible to find work. As a secondary solution, these folks would benefit from continued education to acquire new skills. Instead of just arresting them/shuffling them, government officials should provide them with counseling on low-cost or free avenues they can engage in to acquire these skills. Give them the proper tools to help themselves. 3. Able-bodied people who don't want to work. These folks need to fuck off and stop being leeches on society. I have no problem forcibly relocating them somewhere else where they don't inconvenience others.</quote> wtf an Admiral post that makes sense and I agree with? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL ADMIRAL!?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/13/17 2:52:24 PM #66:	pikachupwnage posted... I mean laziness can lead to homelessness but yeah basically no one is so lazy that they will accept homelessness so they don't have to work. I have an aunt who is like this. She's a useless piece of shit who is a drain on the family. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:882849925] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>pikachupwnage posted...</cite> <quote>I mean laziness can lead to homelessness but yeah basically no one is so lazy that they will accept homelessness so they don't have to work. </quote> I have an aunt who is like this. She's a useless piece of shit who is a drain on the family.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/13/17 3:31:58 PM #67:	ThePrinceFish posted... pikachupwnage posted... I mean laziness can lead to homelessness but yeah basically no one is so lazy that they will accept homelessness so they don't have to work. I have an aunt who is like this. She's a useless piece of shit who is a drain on the family. Send her to Hawaii. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882852253] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pikachupwnage posted...</cite> <quote>I mean laziness can lead to homelessness but yeah basically no one is so lazy that they will accept homelessness so they don't have to work. </quote> I have an aunt who is like this. She's a useless piece of shit who is a drain on the family.</quote> Send her to Hawaii.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JohnLennon6 07/16/17 12:23:57 AM #69:	JohnLennon6 posted... hyperpowder posted... I dont want to give them homes because it will make me feel insecure about working for my living. So I rather be a shity human being and die that way, as long as NO FREE HOUSING!!! Why should you get free housing when the rest of us have to pay for it? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:882994709] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote>I dont want to give them homes because it will make me feel insecure about working for my living. So I rather be a shity human being and die that way, as long as NO FREE HOUSING!!!</quote> Why should you get free housing when the rest of us have to pay for it?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/17/17 11:07:03 PM #70:	Still waiting for an answer. Why should we reward people for being homeless? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883114890] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Still waiting for an answer. Why should we reward people for being homeless?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/19/17 12:33:51 AM #72:	JohnLennon6 posted... Still waiting for an answer. Why should we reward people for being homeless? @hyperpowder --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883183244] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>Still waiting for an answer. Why should we reward people for being homeless?</quote> @hyperpowder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nikra 07/19/17 12:52:13 AM #73:	How about giving them state funding jobs in a period. and a home where they of course pay rent. And hire some people to find them permanent work. <cite>Nikra posted [p:883183931] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>How about giving them state funding jobs in a period. and a home where they of course pay rent. And hire some people to find them permanent work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/19/17 12:52:16 AM #74:	JohnLennon6 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Still waiting for an answer. Why should we reward people for being homeless? @hyperpowder How is providing shelter rewarding someone? I dont know about you, but I rather pay rent than live in a half-way home or apartment slum. I'm not saying go and give the homeless a half a million dollar condo, just provide shelter. And homelessness is a new age problem. Before massive amounts of land were bought, people could just settle anywhere and build their own homes. Now every part of land you step on is owned by someone. Just for that reason I believe the government should provide shelter if the person cant afford it. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:883183933] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>Still waiting for an answer. Why should we reward people for being homeless?</quote> @hyperpowder</quote> How is providing shelter rewarding someone? I dont know about you, but I rather pay rent than live in a half-way home or apartment slum. I'm not saying go and give the homeless a half a million dollar condo, just provide shelter. And homelessness is a new age problem. Before massive amounts of land were bought, people could just settle anywhere and build their own homes. Now every part of land you step on is owned by someone. Just for that reason I believe the government should provide shelter if the person cant afford it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/19/17 12:53:38 AM #75:	There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883183989] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 07/19/17 12:58:02 AM #76:	JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Why act like you care about those living in the slums? You'd likely tell them to get a better job if they want a safe/nice neighborhood. You are simply using the as a weapon against a group you like even less. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:883184141] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Why act like you care about those living in the slums? You'd likely tell them to get a better job if they want a safe/nice neighborhood. You are simply using the as a weapon against a group you like even less.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/19/17 1:00:06 AM #77:	legendary_zell posted... JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Why act like you care about those living in the slums? You'd likely tell them to get a better job if they want a safe/nice neighborhood. You are simply using the as a weapon against a group you like even less. You mean like what your side does with poor whites? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883184217] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Why act like you care about those living in the slums? You'd likely tell them to get a better job if they want a safe/nice neighborhood. You are simply using the as a weapon against a group you like even less.</quote> You mean like what your side does with poor whites?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HogRiderreturns 07/19/17 1:05:27 AM #78:	Well, all the people on the travel ban lists can all go live in Hawaii. We will see just how long they will keep opposing the ban. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>HogRiderreturns posted [p:883184406] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>Well, all the people on the travel ban lists can all go live in Hawaii. We will see just how long they will keep opposing the ban.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/19/17 1:06:22 AM #79:	HogRiderreturns posted... Well, all the people on the travel ban lists can all go live in Hawaii. We will see just how long they will keep opposing the ban. --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883184430] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>HogRiderreturns posted...</cite> <quote>Well, all the people on the travel ban lists can all go live in Hawaii. We will see just how long they will keep opposing the ban.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/19/17 1:11:26 AM #80:	JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? I wouldnt compare a halfway house to living in a shitty apartment. I mean what solution do you have? Keep them homeless and bothering the public? Put them in jail (aka getting free housing and health care)? Kill them? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?" --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:883184621] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> I wouldnt compare a halfway house to living in a shitty apartment. I mean what solution do you have? Keep them homeless and bothering the public? Put them in jail (aka getting free housing and health care)? Kill them? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/19/17 9:46:21 PM #81:	hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?" Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883238229] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?"</quote> Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/20/17 1:04:35 PM #82:	JohnLennon6 posted... hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?" Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it? Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:883270743] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?"</quote> Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it?</quote> Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby 07/20/17 7:08:20 PM #83:	hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?" Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it? Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts People pay for the faucet. A girlfriend is better than the hand, so you have to WORK for it. People pay for lobsters. Giving all the homeless shelter would be insanely expensive and impractical. Not only would you have to find, buy land and build houses, but you'd have to pay for electric/gas/water etc as well EVERY MONTH for the 8,000 homeless living in Hawaii right now. And considering they have no money, there will be no upkeep on the houses in which case they'll deteriorate and be condemned in a short amount of time. --- Bender: You know, I was God once. God: Yes, I saw. You were doing well until everyone died. <cite>Kirby posted [p:883293071] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?"</quote> Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it?</quote> Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts</quote> People pay for the faucet. A girlfriend is better than the hand, so you have to WORK for it. People pay for lobsters. Giving all the homeless shelter would be insanely expensive and impractical. Not only would you have to find, buy land and build houses, but you'd have to pay for electric/gas/water etc as well EVERY MONTH for the 8,000 homeless living in Hawaii right now. And considering they have no money, there will be no upkeep on the houses in which case they'll deteriorate and be condemned in a short amount of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/20/17 7:26:12 PM #84:	Antifar posted... How about giving them homes We tried this shit in the 70's and all it did was create ghettoes, drive down property values and cause crime to skyrocket. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883294088] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>How about giving them homes</quote> We tried this shit in the 70's and all it did was create ghettoes, drive down property values and cause crime to skyrocket.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/20/17 7:30:16 PM #85:	Sativa_Rose posted... It would be funny if Hawaii started deporting people to the mainland. Like dump em in California. they did. there was a program for a while where the state would buy you a one-way plane ticket to California and they were like "bye" --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:883294336] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>It would be funny if Hawaii started deporting people to the mainland. Like dump em in California.</quote> they did. there was a program for a while where the state would buy you a one-way plane ticket to California and they were like "bye"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ-JohnLennon 07/22/17 12:02:31 AM #86:	Kirby posted... hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?" Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it? Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts People pay for the faucet. A girlfriend is better than the hand, so you have to WORK for it. People pay for lobsters. Giving all the homeless shelter would be insanely expensive and impractical. Not only would you have to find, buy land and build houses, but you'd have to pay for electric/gas/water etc as well EVERY MONTH for the 8,000 homeless living in Hawaii right now. And considering they have no money, there will be no upkeep on the houses in which case they'll deteriorate and be condemned in a short amount of time. @hyperpowder <cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted [p:883369585] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?"</quote> Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it?</quote> Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts</quote> People pay for the faucet. A girlfriend is better than the hand, so you have to WORK for it. People pay for lobsters. Giving all the homeless shelter would be insanely expensive and impractical. Not only would you have to find, buy land and build houses, but you'd have to pay for electric/gas/water etc as well EVERY MONTH for the 8,000 homeless living in Hawaii right now. And considering they have no money, there will be no upkeep on the houses in which case they'll deteriorate and be condemned in a short amount of time.</quote> @hyperpowder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/22/17 12:09:00 AM #87:	SSJ-JohnLennon posted... Kirby posted... hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... hyperpowder posted... JohnLennon6 posted... There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free? Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?" Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it? Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts People pay for the faucet. A girlfriend is better than the hand, so you have to WORK for it. People pay for lobsters. Giving all the homeless shelter would be insanely expensive and impractical. Not only would you have to find, buy land and build houses, but you'd have to pay for electric/gas/water etc as well EVERY MONTH for the 8,000 homeless living in Hawaii right now. And considering they have no money, there will be no upkeep on the houses in which case they'll deteriorate and be condemned in a short amount of time. @hyperpowder So dont complain about the homeless? --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:883369876] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>There are people who can barely afford shitty places to live, and you're going to tell them that homeless folks are going to get the SAME quality housing but for free?</quote> Basically what you're saying is "Why eat Burger King when I can get free food at a soup kitchen?"</quote> Strawman. Why should somebody get something for free if I have to pay for it?</quote> Why drink out of a facet when I can drink water out of the lake? Why pay taxes when I can live in a boat in international waters? Why have a girlfriend when I have my right hand? Why pay for lobster when I can have free food in jail? Life isnt fair pouts</quote> People pay for the faucet. A girlfriend is better than the hand, so you have to WORK for it. People pay for lobsters. Giving all the homeless shelter would be insanely expensive and impractical. Not only would you have to find, buy land and build houses, but you'd have to pay for electric/gas/water etc as well EVERY MONTH for the 8,000 homeless living in Hawaii right now. And considering they have no money, there will be no upkeep on the houses in which case they'll deteriorate and be condemned in a short amount of time.</quote> @hyperpowder</quote> So dont complain about the homeless?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ-JohnLennon 07/22/17 12:13:48 AM #88:	I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for. <cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted [p:883370110] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/22/17 12:15:59 AM #89:	SSJ-JohnLennon posted... I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for. I'm sure you are a miserable human being. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:883370194] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote>I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for.</quote> I'm sure you are a miserable human being.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ-JohnLennon 07/22/17 12:17:28 AM #90:	hyperpowder posted... SSJ-JohnLennon posted... I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for. I'm sure you are a miserable human being. Because I think people should have to work to earn a living? <cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted [p:883370259] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote>I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for.</quote> I'm sure you are a miserable human being.</quote> Because I think people should have to work to earn a living?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 07/22/17 12:23:21 AM #91:	SSJ-JohnLennon posted... hyperpowder posted... SSJ-JohnLennon posted... I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for. I'm sure you are a miserable human being. Because I think people should have to work to earn a living? I wouldn't want somebody mentally unstable cooking my food. Plus I'm sure you've recieved something free that someone else had to work for to get. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:883370516] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote>I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for.</quote> I'm sure you are a miserable human being.</quote> Because I think people should have to work to earn a living?</quote> I wouldn't want somebody mentally unstable cooking my food. Plus I'm sure you've recieved something free that someone else had to work for to get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/22/17 11:23:36 PM #92:	hyperpowder posted... SSJ-JohnLennon posted... hyperpowder posted... SSJ-JohnLennon posted... I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for. I'm sure you are a miserable human being. Because I think people should have to work to earn a living? I wouldn't want somebody mentally unstable cooking my food. Plus I'm sure you've recieved something free that someone else had to work for to get. Like what? School is free for everybody. --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883423213] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote>I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for.</quote> I'm sure you are a miserable human being.</quote> Because I think people should have to work to earn a living?</quote> I wouldn't want somebody mentally unstable cooking my food. Plus I'm sure you've recieved something free that someone else had to work for to get.</quote> Like what? School is free for everybody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/23/17 8:04:57 AM #93:	JohnLennon6 posted... hyperpowder posted... SSJ-JohnLennon posted... hyperpowder posted... SSJ-JohnLennon posted... I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for. I'm sure you are a miserable human being. Because I think people should have to work to earn a living? I wouldn't want somebody mentally unstable cooking my food. Plus I'm sure you've recieved something free that someone else had to work for to get. Like what? School is free for everybody. @hyperpowder --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883437206] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted...</cite> <quote>I only complain when people get stuff for free that I have to pay for.</quote> I'm sure you are a miserable human being.</quote> Because I think people should have to work to earn a living?</quote> I wouldn't want somebody mentally unstable cooking my food. Plus I'm sure you've recieved something free that someone else had to work for to get.</quote> Like what? School is free for everybody.</quote> @hyperpowder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 07/23/17 8:05:49 AM #94:	if more states did this the homeless problem would be solved --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:883437231] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>if more states did this the homeless problem would be solved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 07/23/17 8:06:17 AM #95:	Doom_Art posted... Try curing the disease, not the symptoms. If you don't want icky homeless people, then you should try fixing the conditions that lead to homelessness how do you propose to fix laziness --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:883437241] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Try curing the disease, not the symptoms. If you don't want icky homeless people, then you should try fixing the conditions that lead to homelessness</quote> how do you propose to fix laziness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/23/17 9:35:49 PM #96:	I still want to know what it is that I get for free that others had to pay for. --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883474569] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>I still want to know what it is that I get for free that others had to pay for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 07/23/17 9:37:00 PM #97:	Fossil posted... Antifar posted... How about giving them homes I'm sure they will take care of it like they take care of themselves. what is it with former mods and being shitty people --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:883474646] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fossil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>How about giving them homes</quote> I'm sure they will take care of it like they take care of themselves.</quote> what is it with former mods and being shitty people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/23/17 9:37:58 PM #98:	Delirious_Beard posted... Fossil posted... Antifar posted... How about giving them homes I'm sure they will take care of it like they take care of themselves. what is it with former mods and being shitty people What is it with liberals and trying to act like they are morally superior to everybody else? --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883474701] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fossil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>How about giving them homes</quote> I'm sure they will take care of it like they take care of themselves.</quote> what is it with former mods and being shitty people</quote> What is it with liberals and trying to act like they are morally superior to everybody else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/24/17 9:11:07 AM #99:	@Delirious_Beard --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883496255] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote>@Delirious_Beard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/24/17 9:16:57 AM #100:	Philoktetes posted... Doom_Art posted... Try curing the disease, not the symptoms. If you don't want icky homeless people, then you should try fixing the conditions that lead to homelessness how do you propose to fix laziness Doom Art's proposal is always for the government to give them free stuff that Doom Art himself never has to pay for. Liberals are incredibly generous with other people's money. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:883496457] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Try curing the disease, not the symptoms. If you don't want icky homeless people, then you should try fixing the conditions that lead to homelessness</quote> how do you propose to fix laziness</quote> Doom Art's proposal is always for the government to give them free stuff that Doom Art himself never has to pay for. Liberals are incredibly generous with other people's money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ-JohnLennon 07/25/17 1:26:51 AM #101:	JohnLennon6 posted... I still want to know what it is that I get for free that others had to pay for. @hyperpowder <cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted [p:883546688] in Hawaii con... [t:75549788]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>I still want to know what it is that I get for free that others had to pay for.</quote> @hyperpowder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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