Current Events > Jay-Z's mother comes out as a lesbian

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ollie89
07/06/17 2:41:25 PM
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http://www.towleroad.com/2017/07/jay-zs-mom/

Good for her.

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hollow_shrine
07/06/17 2:42:19 PM
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Well that came out of nowhere.
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SMAP-
07/06/17 2:43:00 PM
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Nice
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WizardPowers
07/06/17 2:43:07 PM
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Is her rap name Les-Z?
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ChromaticAngel
07/06/17 2:44:12 PM
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WizardPowers posted...
Is her rap name Les-Z?


Ok I smiled a little
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Behaviorism
07/06/17 2:44:46 PM
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Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?
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infinitydev2020
07/06/17 2:44:53 PM
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WizardPowers posted...
Is her rap name Les-Z?

Is it weird that I just smiled and slow clapped?
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ollie89
07/06/17 2:46:28 PM
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I say this all the time, but I've never believed that the LGBT population is as small as some claim it is.

Whether people want to admit it or not, coming out as gay is still frowned upon. Is it really a surprise that so many people keep it a secret and try to live a "normal" life by marrying someone of the opposite sex and having kids?

I'm willing to bet that as society continues to move forward, more and more people will be less hesitant about living authentically.
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ollie89
07/06/17 2:47:23 PM
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Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

You're aware gay people can have sex with people of the opposite sex but still be gay, right?

It's called being closeted.
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_Near_
07/06/17 2:47:57 PM
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ollie89 posted...
I say this all the time, but I've never believed that the LGBT population is as small as some claim it is.


Oh yeah. Even some gay people I know hesitate to say "I'm gay" because they feel societal pressure.
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ClockworkHare
07/06/17 2:48:28 PM
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Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

If she's not attracted to men anymore, then no.
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CrimsonAngeI
07/06/17 2:48:45 PM
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ollie89 posted...
Good for her.

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GOATSLAYER
07/06/17 2:50:50 PM
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ClockworkHare posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

If she's not attracted to men anymore, then no.

If you were attracted to men at one point then that means you still have the capacity to be attracted to them. So she would be bi
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ollie89
07/06/17 2:51:46 PM
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Speaking of parents of famous people, isn't Jessica's Simpson's dad gay as well?

I think I remember hearing about that a while back.
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ChromaticAngel
07/06/17 2:51:51 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

If she's not attracted to men anymore, then no.

If you were attracted to men at one point then that means you still have the capacity to be attracted to them. So she would be bi


She was likely never attracted to men.

You can have sex with people you're not attracted to.
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thronedfire2
07/06/17 2:52:24 PM
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Who said she was actually ever attracted to men? Could have just been lying her entire life, it's not that uncommon
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ollie89
07/06/17 2:52:39 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

If she's not attracted to men anymore, then no.

If you were attracted to men at one point then that means you still have the capacity to be attracted to them. So she would be bi


She was likely never attracted to men.

You can have sex with people you're not attracted to.

This.

Not trying to be a dick, but it's not really a difficult concept to grasp >_>
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ClockworkHare
07/06/17 3:28:38 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

If she's not attracted to men anymore, then no.

If you were attracted to men at one point then that means you still have the capacity to be attracted to them. So she would be bi

Not definitively. There's a number of reasons a person who once demonstrated typical heterosexual behavior transitions into being exclusively homosexual later for the remainder of their lives, often diminishing their previous attractions to the opposite sex the longer they give up heterosexuality. Most generally get to a point where "going back" is no longer a feasible option for them. The conditions (or sparks) are not there anymore.

This is a common process for people who were brought up conditioned with heterosexual values to the point they believed they were straight (to conform), but later developed into experiencing homosexual impulses beyond their control (society said be straight, the person's body was saying be gay).

I myself am an example of this. I was raised in a typical religious, staunchly conservative Texan household where homosexuality was considered shameful deviant behavior. As a son, I was taught to seek girlfriends to meet my family's expectation for me to be heterosexual and eventually add on a new branch to the family. I had a few girlfriends and managed to be sexually active with them to a moderate degree, but I was never sexually satisfied at all with them. Nice girls, but my attractions to them was about fulfilling my family's obligations dumped on me...not sexual attraction. I got boners off the fact that I was making my family proud and defining myself as the same as one of my straight peers. There was never a period where I was like "yay boobies " or "damn check out HER ass ". My hormones were not cooperating well with the heterosexuality, my instincts kept telling me something was off. Over time I learned that I was much more attracted to other guys and I eventually switched to dating them instead, finding myself intensely more satisfied.

The thing is I'm not bisexual. It's debatable if I was originally during my time of sexual confusion under conditioned values, but I'm exclusively homosexual now with a long history of male partners. Out of curiosity I've actually experimented multiple times in trying to have sex with someone female and attractive again just for personal clarity. And I can not do it. My brain's wiring can't make those old connections anymore. Vaginas (and some other female parts) gross me out now to the point where I can't perform. I can still find women to be beautiful and even captivating, but sexually attractive is off the books.

There's plenty of lesbians who have had similar experiences trying to settle down with a man later in life and found they can't make it work anymore. Penis is too repulsive for them at that point.
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ollie89
07/06/17 3:38:16 PM
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ClockworkHare posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
Behaviorism posted...
Wouldn't she be bi-sexual?

If she's not attracted to men anymore, then no.

If you were attracted to men at one point then that means you still have the capacity to be attracted to them. So she would be bi

Not definitively. There's a number of reasons a person who once demonstrated typical heterosexual behavior transitions into being exclusively homosexual later for the remainder of their lives, often diminishing their previous attractions to the opposite sex the longer they give up heterosexuality. Most generally get to a point where "going back" is no longer a feasible option for them. The conditions (or sparks) are not there anymore.

This is a common process for people who were brought up conditioned with heterosexual values to the point they believed they were straight (to conform), but later developed into experiencing homosexual impulses beyond their control (society said be straight, the person's body was saying be gay).

I myself am an example of this. I was raised in a typical religious, staunchly conservative Texan household where homosexuality was considered shameful deviant behavior. As a son, I was taught to seek girlfriends to meet my family's expectation for me to be heterosexual and eventually add on a new branch to the family. I had a few girlfriends and managed to be sexually active with them to a moderate degree, but I was never sexually satisfied at all with them. Nice girls, but my attractions to them was about fulfilling my family's obligations dumped on me...not sexual attraction. I got boners off the fact that I was making my family proud and defining myself as the same as one of my straight peers. There was never a period where I was like "yay boobies " or "damn check out HER ass ". My hormones were not cooperating well with the heterosexuality, my instincts kept telling me something was off. Over time I learned that I was much more attracted to other guys and I eventually switched to dating them instead, finding myself intensely more satisfied.

The thing is I'm not bisexual. It's debatable if I was originally during my time of sexual confusion under conditioned values, but I'm exclusively homosexual now with a long history of male partners. Out of curiosity I've actually experimented multiple times in trying to have sex with someone female and attractive again just for personal clarity. And I can not do it. My brain's wiring can't make those old connections anymore. Vaginas (and some other female parts) gross me out now to the point where I can't perform. I can still find women to be beautiful and even captivating, but sexually attractive is off the books.

There's plenty of lesbians who have had similar experiences trying to settle down with a man later in life and found they can't make it work anymore. Penis is too repulsive for them at that point.

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ollie89
07/07/17 9:08:58 AM
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Bump
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ollie89
07/07/17 8:21:31 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Nice explanation Clockwork. That is the case for a LOT of gay people in our society. Thankfully, we are seeing a change where teenagers won't feel the need to repress their sexuality to fit into a norm.

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