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ForestLogic
06/30/17 10:52:39 AM
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Topic typo: *seig heil (fucking autocorrect)

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Scottish comedian and YouTuber Markus Meechan, better known as Count Dankula, is facing a year in prison for recording and uploading a video where he taught his girlfriend’s pet dog how to “seig heil” on command. As Heat Street reported earlier this year the viral video did not amuse Scottish police, prompting his arrest.

On Wednesday, Meechan posted an update about his case. “Legal aid application was rejected,” he posted on Twitter. “I’m fucked."



Holy shit, I used to think Scotland was cool... The bit/joke in question was pretty tasteless but come the fuck on. Imagine being arrested for making a bum joke once in a while? This is a scary time we live in.
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Darkman124
06/30/17 10:53:25 AM
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what law did he violate?
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faizan_faizan
06/30/17 10:53:37 AM
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Why was he denied the lawyer though?
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MetalGearSquid
06/30/17 10:53:53 AM
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ForestLogic posted...
YouTuber Markus Meechan, better known as Count Dankula

lol
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Mystere
06/30/17 10:54:19 AM
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More like Scatland.
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snesmaster40
06/30/17 10:54:31 AM
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Well, I guess he did nazi that coming.
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EnragedSlith
06/30/17 10:54:37 AM
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:|

How does legal representation work in Scotland?
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apolloooo
06/30/17 10:54:53 AM
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This is literally fascism
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FurryPhilosifer
06/30/17 10:55:19 AM
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I'm a Scottish in Scotland. I'll be his lawyer. I've completed two Phoenix Wright games.
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l Dudeboy l
06/30/17 10:55:35 AM
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I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.
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ForestLogic
06/30/17 10:57:03 AM
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faizan_faizan posted...
Why was he denied d lawyer though?


The only thing I can think of is that in a country where you can apparently be jailed for making an offensive joke like this, no lawyer wants to be known as the attorney who defended said person.
Which is kind of fucked up because there's public defenders who literally argue on behalf of admitted murderers :|
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Darkman124
06/30/17 10:58:38 AM
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iirc the uk does not have the adversarial law system the US does

it has an inquisitory law system instead
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Melonfarms
06/30/17 10:59:34 AM
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ForestLogic posted...
faizan_faizan posted...
Why was he denied d lawyer though?


The only thing I can think of is that in a country where you can apparently be jailed for making an offensive joke like this, no lawyer wants to be known as the attorney who defended said person.
Which is kind of fucked up because there's public defenders who literally argue on behalf of admitted murderers :|


He was denied aid. Not a lawyer outright. A charity has been set up for people to donate so he can afford representation.
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SSJGrimReaper
06/30/17 10:59:45 AM
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MetalGearSquid posted...
ForestLogic posted...
YouTuber Markus Meechan, better known as Count Dankula

lol

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Unquestionable
06/30/17 11:00:11 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.


No freedom of speech in the UK. Here in America things might suck on multiple levels but at least you can't be arrest for making tasteless jokes.
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voldothegr8
06/30/17 11:02:06 AM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
MetalGearSquid posted...
ForestLogic posted...
YouTuber Markus Meechan, better known as Count Dankula

lol

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Kitt
06/30/17 11:02:45 AM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
MetalGearSquid posted...
ForestLogic posted...
YouTuber Markus Meechan, better known as Count Dankula

lol

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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/30/17 11:03:07 AM
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apolloooo posted...
This is literally fascism


He just heil'd the wrong autocrat.
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E32005
06/30/17 11:03:48 AM
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snesmaster40 posted...
Well, I guess he did nazi that coming.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/30/17 11:05:07 AM
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Unquestionable posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.


No freedom of speech in the UK. Here in America things might suck on multiple levels but at least you can't be arrest for making tasteless jokes.


"but Europe has freedom too!" ~stupid Newsroom clip
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Mystere
06/30/17 11:06:22 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.

Europe is scared shitless of someone reviving the Nazi party so they pull bullshit like this.
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l Dudeboy l
06/30/17 11:13:12 AM
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Unquestionable posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.


No freedom of speech in the UK.


This is incorrect, and why I'd like to know why this was an arrestable offence.
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Rexdragon125
06/30/17 11:14:46 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.

Potentially hurting someone's feelings is more important than the law
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scar the 1
06/30/17 11:14:58 AM
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It's sieg, not seig. Seig would be pronounced "s-eye-g"
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gafemaqs
06/30/17 11:16:30 AM
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fair; next
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/30/17 11:17:54 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
This is incorrect


When you start making a ton of exceptions, it ceases to be free speech, that is absolutely correct.

Perjury, threats, libel/slander, are notable agreeable exceptions but this "hate speech" bullshit you guys have, is absolutely not.
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Howl
06/30/17 11:18:14 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Unquestionable posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
I'm confused as to how this is an arrestable offence.


No freedom of speech in the UK.


This is incorrect, and why I'd like to know why this was an arrestable offence.


It's clearly not incorrect if the government is literally arresting people for jokes.
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Link HT
06/30/17 11:19:25 AM
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This is so fucking stupid, it's a literal victim-less crime.
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Mystere
06/30/17 11:24:04 AM
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Imagine the dog doing that in front of some other dogs, them picking up on it and then it becomes something most Scottish dogs do.
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DezCaughtIt
06/30/17 11:24:22 AM
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TIL the cast of Always Sunny would be in jail if they filmed in Scotland
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l Dudeboy l
06/30/17 11:26:40 AM
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Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?
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Funkydog
06/30/17 11:27:45 AM
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It is really strange he has been arrested. Nazi jokes are a staple of British humour, it seems at times.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/30/17 11:29:34 AM
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Link HT posted...
This is so fucking stupid, it's a literal victim-less crime.


Animal abuse. Raising a dog in an environment of hate. PETA probably lost their shit. (Sounds like a terrible comedy premise)
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Melonfarms
06/30/17 11:30:02 AM
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The dude is funny and has had a pretty good attitude about the whole thing despite his situation. He said the cop who arrested him was super gung ho and called him a Nazi and crap.
When the bigger YouTube news stations picked up on his story he was upset they called him Count Donkula. lol. (Scarce and one other I can't remember)
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Unquestionable
06/30/17 11:30:10 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?


We invented freedom of speech of buddy and aren't the ones arresting people for making stupid Nazi jokes. We're talking about the same part of the world that arrested someone because they sent a mean tweet during the Olympics.
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weapon_d00d816
06/30/17 11:31:48 AM
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ForestLogic posted...
*seig heil (fucking autocorrect)

*sieg

Still wrong.
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DawkinsNumber4
06/30/17 11:32:23 AM
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Unquestionable posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?


We invented freedom of speech of buddy and aren't the ones arresting people for making stupid Nazi jokes. We're talking about the same part of the world that arrested someone because they sent a mean tweet during the Olympics.



We are just the ones arresting people for recording the government and telling them they can't record them anymore while placing 150 cameras and speed cameras in the county at the same time.
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Kitt
06/30/17 11:33:37 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?

How do you know all of them are Americans? I never got why people do that. When someone disagree with someone else regarding how other countries and nations function, they'll always jump to the conclusion that the person that they're disagreeing with is American. I just noticed that as an internet thing.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/30/17 11:36:41 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech


We invented it while you were still under a monarchy kid. America as a haven, a bastion of freedom for patriots, from the lowest class and to highborn alike.
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Esrac
06/30/17 11:42:56 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?


He taught his girlfriend's pug to do a Nazi salute when someone said "Sieg Heil". Apparently, in the UK/Scottland, that is considered a hate crime or propagating hate speech. Officially, he was arrested for publishing offensive material online.

Specifically, he was arrested for making this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus


Which is bizarre because he says he's teaching the dog to do that because it's the least cute thing he can think of, to mess with his girlfriend who's always gushing over how cute her pug is.
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Darkman124
06/30/17 11:47:28 AM
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Esrac posted...
publishing offensive material online


it bothers me that the UK considers that to be a crime worthy of sending someone to prison
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gmanthebest
06/30/17 11:47:42 AM
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I'm glad they used resources and manpower to arrest this monster. Clearly there is nothing else that is more important than stopping this Nazi.

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MotaroRIP619
06/30/17 11:48:51 AM
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snesmaster40 posted...
Well, I guess he did nazi that coming.


Lulz
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The Eternal Flame
06/30/17 11:52:57 AM
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That video was absolutely hilarious. I'm ashamed that my country considers this "illegal".
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Funkydog
06/30/17 11:58:00 AM
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Esrac posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?


He taught his girlfriend's pug to do a Nazi salute when someone said "Sieg Heil". Apparently, in the UK/Scottland, that is considered a hate crime or propagating hate speech. Officially, he was arrested for publishing offensive material online.

Specifically, he was arrested for making this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus


Which is bizarre because he says he's teaching the dog to do that because it's the least cute thing he can think of, to mess with his girlfriend who's always gushing over how cute her pug is.

Yup. And seeing as how many of our comedians and shows often used similar humour and are considered classics... I don't get it at all either. It just seems over zealous and down right idiotic.
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Darker Cheshire
06/30/17 11:59:37 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech


We invented it while you were still under a monarchy kid. America as a haven, a bastion of freedom for patriots, from the lowest class and to highborn alike.


Freedom was speech / expression is believed to have been first codified in Athens, 6th of 5th century BC.
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l Dudeboy l
06/30/17 12:01:04 PM
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Esrac posted...
l Dudeboy l posted...
Can we stop arguing over how Americans don't understand what free speech is and tell me what the dude did that was an arrestable offence?


He taught his girlfriend's pug to do a Nazi salute when someone said "Sieg Heil". Apparently, in the UK/Scottland, that is considered a hate crime or propagating hate speech. Officially, he was arrested for publishing offensive material online.

Specifically, he was arrested for making this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus


Which is bizarre because he says he's teaching the dog to do that because it's the least cute thing he can think of, to mess with his girlfriend who's always gushing over how cute her pug is.


Thanks. Only useful answer so far outside of thin skinned yanks.
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refmon
06/30/17 12:02:40 PM
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What Has The Left Done?
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pinky0926
06/30/17 12:04:34 PM
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This entire case has been a fucking farce, we're all pretty upset about it. Literally no one I talk to thinks he should be treated this badly, and yet it seems to keep steamrolling on. Hope his patreon gets overblown with funds and he gets a really good lawyer.
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SpiralDrift
06/30/17 12:04:37 PM
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The irony. The mad irony.
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