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marc55 06/30/17 12:55:23 PM #101:	Terra-enforcer posted... @marc55 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... Funkydog posted... No one who's played her has been naturally red headed. So... why does it suddenly matter now? Because race. CE loves saying "I-I'm not racist!" then a few posts later getting enraged by people of color somehow, or proclaiming that white men are the most persecuted race. oh you are one of those trolls throwing around "racist! " for fun i thought you may be after reading the OP Nope. And stop using words you don't know the meaning of kiddo. I literally said above I have problems with race changing and shoohorning myself, so that makes no fucking sense. What I'm referring to are the CE man who think Zendaya is too good or bad because of her complexion, or how topics that were a complete non-issue before somehow become an issue because of her race. That's definitely racism no matter how many straws you grasp for. im talking about this part from the OP female black love interest because we all know all it never was about the race of the love interest .....it was about the possibility of them changing mary jane race there is a difference and you know it --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:882093234] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>No one who's played her has been naturally red headed. So... why does it suddenly matter now?</quote> Because race. CE loves saying "I-I'm not racist!" then a few posts later getting enraged by people of color somehow, or proclaiming that white men are the most persecuted race.</quote> oh you are one of those trolls throwing around "racist! " for fun i thought you may be after reading the OP</quote> Nope. And stop using words you don't know the meaning of kiddo. I literally said above I have problems with race changing and shoohorning myself, so that makes no fucking sense. What I'm referring to are the CE man who think Zendaya is too good or bad because of her complexion, or how topics that were a complete non-issue before somehow become an issue because of her race. That's definitely racism no matter how many straws you grasp for.</quote> im talking about this part from the OP female black love interest because we all know all it never was about the race of the love interest .....it was about the possibility of them changing mary jane race there is a difference and you know it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 06/30/17 1:06:11 PM #102:	marc55 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... @marc55 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... Funkydog posted... No one who's played her has been naturally red headed. So... why does it suddenly matter now? Because race. CE loves saying "I-I'm not racist!" then a few posts later getting enraged by people of color somehow, or proclaiming that white men are the most persecuted race. oh you are one of those trolls throwing around "racist! " for fun i thought you may be after reading the OP Nope. And stop using words you don't know the meaning of kiddo. I literally said above I have problems with race changing and shoohorning myself, so that makes no fucking sense. What I'm referring to are the CE man who think Zendaya is too good or bad because of her complexion, or how topics that were a complete non-issue before somehow become an issue because of her race. That's definitely racism no matter how many straws you grasp for. im talking about this part from the OP female black love interest because we all know all it never was about the race of the love interest .....it was about the possibility of them changing mary jane race there is a difference and you know it If you literally read just this topic alone, you'll see that isn't the case. Not even to mention past topics. And that still doesn't justify the stupidity in your usage of the word "troll." --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:882093817] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>No one who's played her has been naturally red headed. So... why does it suddenly matter now?</quote> Because race. CE loves saying "I-I'm not racist!" then a few posts later getting enraged by people of color somehow, or proclaiming that white men are the most persecuted race.</quote> oh you are one of those trolls throwing around "racist! " for fun i thought you may be after reading the OP</quote> Nope. And stop using words you don't know the meaning of kiddo. I literally said above I have problems with race changing and shoohorning myself, so that makes no fucking sense. What I'm referring to are the CE man who think Zendaya is too good or bad because of her complexion, or how topics that were a complete non-issue before somehow become an issue because of her race. That's definitely racism no matter how many straws you grasp for.</quote> im talking about this part from the OP female black love interest because we all know all it never was about the race of the love interest .....it was about the possibility of them changing mary jane race there is a difference and you know it</quote> If you literally read just this topic alone, you'll see that isn't the case. Not even to mention past topics. And that still doesn't justify the stupidity in your usage of the word "troll."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaPillow 06/30/17 3:32:33 PM #103:	I don't get why the change to African American though? --- Psn: An_Axe_Murderer 360: An Axe Murd3r3r 3ds friend code: 3067 6981 0482 plz add me <cite>OmegaPillow posted [p:882101968] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the change to African American though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 06/30/17 3:34:15 PM #104:	OmegaPillow posted... I don't get why the change to African American though? Why not? --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:882102057] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaPillow posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the change to African American though?</quote> Why not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silver Bearings 06/30/17 3:42:28 PM #105:	Who cares? Not me. Love interests are a waste of time for superheroes. They need to start taking their craft more seriously. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion <cite>Silver Bearings posted [p:882102526] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>Who cares? Not me. Love interests are a waste of time for superheroes. They need to start taking their craft more seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MonkeyBones23 06/30/17 3:48:33 PM #106:	People are really not understanding what's going on, at least based on the article. She is not playing Mary Jane but a different character with initials of MJ. That is what people should be upset about, the fact that they felt it was necessary to shoehorn a character named "MJ" just for the sake of having someone with those initials. Instead of just having a new character with her own merits and credibility. --- We're a forest of lives, but we grow tall and wide. We'll never be cut down. <cite>MonkeyBones23 posted [p:882102898] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>People are really not understanding what's going on, at least based on the article. She is not playing Mary Jane but a different character with initials of MJ. That is what people should be upset about, the fact that they felt it was necessary to shoehorn a character named "MJ" just for the sake of having someone with those initials. Instead of just having a new character with her own merits and credibility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 06/30/17 3:52:26 PM #107:	Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:882103121] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/30/17 4:05:31 PM #108:	ThePrinceFish posted... Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson Yeah, that's not Flash Thompson. That's three prominent characters in the movie that don't resemble how they should resemble. If they didn't want to make a Spiderman movie, they shouldn't have called it Spiderman. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:882103830] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson</quote> Yeah, that's not Flash Thompson. That's three prominent characters in the movie that don't resemble how they should resemble. If they didn't want to make a Spiderman movie, they shouldn't have called it Spiderman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 06/30/17 4:20:05 PM #109:	MCU has taken an awful lot of liberties with the source material. Or does Black Widow have the hots for Bruce Banner in the comics now, too? I've been a Spider-man fan for decades. This whole scenario is entirely 'meh' to me. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882104623] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>MCU has taken an awful lot of liberties with the source material. Or does Black Widow have the hots for Bruce Banner in the comics now, too? I've been a Spider-man fan for decades. This whole scenario is entirely 'meh' to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 06/30/17 4:26:00 PM #110:	Bass_X0 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson Yeah, that's not Flash Thompson. That's three prominent characters in the movie that don't resemble how they should resemble. If they didn't want to make a Spiderman movie, they shouldn't have called it Spiderman. Except it is a Spider-Man movie. It's a story that's been retold in film three times now in the last 15 years. It's time for something new --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* I like posting. <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:882104949] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson</quote> Yeah, that's not Flash Thompson. That's three prominent characters in the movie that don't resemble how they should resemble. If they didn't want to make a Spiderman movie, they shouldn't have called it Spiderman.</quote> Except it is a Spider-Man movie. It's a story that's been retold in film three times now in the last 15 years. It's time for something new</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 06/30/17 4:27:22 PM #111:	DezCaughtIt posted... Bass_X0 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson Yeah, that's not Flash Thompson. That's three prominent characters in the movie that don't resemble how they should resemble. If they didn't want to make a Spiderman movie, they shouldn't have called it Spiderman. Except it is a Spider-Man movie. It's a story that's been retold in film three times now in the last 15 years now. It's time for a shakeup Every time I watched any other Spider-Man film, I always thought to myself "boy I'm sick of Flash Thompson being Peter's jock bully. It would be way refreshing if he was a piss-ant little rich kid instead!" --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:882105019] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Way more upset about what they did to Flash Thompson</quote> Yeah, that's not Flash Thompson. That's three prominent characters in the movie that don't resemble how they should resemble. If they didn't want to make a Spiderman movie, they shouldn't have called it Spiderman.</quote> Except it is a Spider-Man movie. It's a story that's been retold in film three times now in the last 15 years now. It's time for a shakeup</quote> Every time I watched any other Spider-Man film, I always thought to myself "boy I'm sick of Flash Thompson being Peter's jock bully. It would be way refreshing if he was a piss-ant little rich kid instead!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 06/30/17 4:28:41 PM #112:	Esrac posted... I'm disappointed at the lack of ginger representation. Redheads are the hottest thing ever. I wasn't going to see this movie anyway as Spider-Man is one of the lamest superheroes ever. <cite>garan posted [p:882105082] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I'm disappointed at the lack of ginger representation.</quote> Redheads are the hottest thing ever. I wasn't going to see this movie anyway as Spider-Man is one of the lamest superheroes ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrtegaTron 06/30/17 4:39:17 PM #113:	I heard the sequel is going to have a white suited Venom; that should put everyone at ease. --- The red flag is false hope <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:882105659] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>I heard the sequel is going to have a white suited Venom; that should put everyone at ease.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/30/17 4:44:50 PM #114:	OrtegaTron posted... I heard the sequel is going to have a white suited Venom; that should put everyone at ease. At least it has been done. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Venom --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:882105990] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>OrtegaTron posted...</cite> <quote>I heard the sequel is going to have a white suited Venom; that should put everyone at ease.</quote> At least it has been done. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Venom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WafflehouseJK 06/30/17 4:54:05 PM #115:	DarthAragorn posted... Menardi posted... voldothegr8 posted... Human Torch, L, now MJ God damn Hollywood shoehorning. "Oh noes, black people are getting more roles!" I don't know that many people have a problem with that. They'd just rather they make new roles, don't change existing ones. If the story isn't changed/affected by a characters race, it shouldn't matter what the race of the casted person is, what should matter is their acting ability. There are some characters where race is important to the character. Hitler shouldn't be played by a black man in a historical drama. But there's literally no reason MJ cant be black. The only thing people have to bitch about is "She's just always been white!" Her being white has nothing to do with her character. Race does not define who that person is, and people need to stop acting like it does. --- "She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up." <cite>WafflehouseJK posted [p:882106456] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Menardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> Human Torch, L, now MJ God damn Hollywood shoehorning.</quote> "Oh noes, black people are getting more roles!"</quote> I don't know that many people have a problem with that. They'd just rather they make new roles, don't change existing ones.</quote> If the story isn't changed/affected by a characters race, it shouldn't matter what the race of the casted person is, what should matter is their acting ability. There are some characters where race is important to the character. Hitler shouldn't be played by a black man in a historical drama. But there's literally no reason MJ cant be black. The only thing people have to bitch about is "She's just always been white!" Her being white has nothing to do with her character. Race does not define who that person is, and people need to stop acting like it does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/30/17 4:59:12 PM #116:	voldothegr8 posted... OrtegaTron posted... I heard the sequel is going to have a white suited Venom; that should put everyone at ease. At least it has been done. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Venom And everyone was fine with that. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:882106697] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OrtegaTron posted...</cite> <quote>I heard the sequel is going to have a white suited Venom; that should put everyone at ease.</quote> At least it has been done. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Venom</quote> And everyone was fine with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaPillow 06/30/17 8:18:00 PM #117:	Terra-enforcer posted... OmegaPillow posted... I don't get why the change to African American though? Why not? It's just random sering as mj was Caucasian --- Psn: An_Axe_Murderer 360: An Axe Murd3r3r 3ds friend code: 3067 6981 0482 plz add me <cite>OmegaPillow posted [p:882116543] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaPillow posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the change to African American though?</quote> Why not?</quote> It's just random sering as mj was Caucasian</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 06/30/17 9:57:15 PM #118:	WafflehouseJK posted... DarthAragorn posted... Menardi posted... voldothegr8 posted... Human Torch, L, now MJ God damn Hollywood shoehorning. "Oh noes, black people are getting more roles!" I don't know that many people have a problem with that. They'd just rather they make new roles, don't change existing ones. If the story isn't changed/affected by a characters race, it shouldn't matter what the race of the casted person is, what should matter is their acting ability. There are some characters where race is important to the character. Hitler shouldn't be played by a black man in a historical drama. But there's literally no reason MJ cant be black. The only thing people have to bitch about is "She's just always been white!" Her being white has nothing to do with her character. Race does not define who that person is, and people need to stop acting like it does. it does define the description of her physical appareance compared to the comics why peple keep repeating that as if anyone said it had anything to do with her personality ? and dont forget we arent talking about a person we are talking about a character from the comics a very old one and whos been on the spotlight in the comics for a long time and she isnt a minor character like locus (from marvel ) who was introduced as white and then changed to black (in the comics ) probably because mary jane isnt a minor character is the reason michelle isnt mary --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:882121359] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>WafflehouseJK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Menardi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> Human Torch, L, now MJ God damn Hollywood shoehorning.</quote> "Oh noes, black people are getting more roles!"</quote> I don't know that many people have a problem with that. They'd just rather they make new roles, don't change existing ones.</quote> If the story isn't changed/affected by a characters race, it shouldn't matter what the race of the casted person is, what should matter is their acting ability. There are some characters where race is important to the character. Hitler shouldn't be played by a black man in a historical drama. But there's literally no reason MJ cant be black. The only thing people have to bitch about is "She's just always been white!" Her being white has nothing to do with her character. Race does not define who that person is, and people need to stop acting like it does.</quote> it does define the description of her physical appareance compared to the comics why peple keep repeating that as if anyone said it had anything to do with her personality ? and dont forget we arent talking about a person we are talking about a character from the comics a very old one and whos been on the spotlight in the comics for a long time and she isnt a minor character like locus (from marvel ) who was introduced as white and then changed to black (in the comics ) probably because mary jane isnt a minor character is the reason michelle isnt mary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/01/17 2:03:52 AM #119:	The takeaway that I get from this topic is that people don't mind MJ being the deadpan geek with bad hair just so long as she's white and with red hair. That's truly fucked up. :v <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:882132533] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>The takeaway that I get from this topic is that people don't mind MJ being the deadpan geek with bad hair just so long as she's white and with red hair. That's truly fucked up. :v</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lukabrosci 07/01/17 2:07:35 AM #120:	So its gonna be like at the end of the movie "thanks for saving me" "heh well no problem heehuh uh yeah...oh hey i never got your name?" "oh? jane. mary jane" to be continued <cite>lukabrosci posted [p:882132648] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>So its gonna be like at the end of the movie "thanks for saving me" "heh well no problem heehuh uh yeah...oh hey i never got your name?" "oh? jane. mary jane" to be continued</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/01/17 2:12:31 AM #121:	I knew when they wanted Shailene Woodley to play her years ago that there was no chance of getting a proper Mary Jane Watson. There were hellbent that they were going to make her into a real person by taking away her distracting looks. You can't just create a character who looks average -- or average by comparison -- you have to take beauty away from a character to make a statement. It's stupid, it's spiteful, nobody ever complains when a show aimed at female audiences has the guy being cute for the sake of the guy being cute. Why do they have to make an absolute fucking point to make a character whose name is synonymous with desire into the bland chick that the hero gets with after he realizes that beauty is only skin deep? :/ <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:882132823] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>I knew when they wanted Shailene Woodley to play her years ago that there was no chance of getting a proper Mary Jane Watson. There were hellbent that they were going to make her into a real person by taking away her distracting looks. You can't just create a character who looks average -- or average by comparison -- you have to take beauty away from a character to make a statement. It's stupid, it's spiteful, nobody ever complains when a show aimed at female audiences has the guy being cute for the sake of the guy being cute. Why do they have to make an absolute fucking point to make a character whose name is synonymous with desire into the bland chick that the hero gets with after he realizes that beauty is only skin deep? :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 07/01/17 2:16:05 AM #122:	http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie? --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:882132941] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/01/17 2:22:51 AM #123:	Bass_X0 posted... http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie? I wish. She looks like this: <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:882133147] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie?</quote> I wish. She looks like this: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lukabrosci 07/01/17 2:25:53 AM #124:	so they have to go with the pretty girl is a tom boy looking average chick only to be transformed trope as well?? <cite>lukabrosci posted [p:882133243] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>so they have to go with the pretty girl is a tom boy looking average chick only to be transformed trope as well??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 07/01/17 2:42:23 AM #125:	Skye Reynolds posted... Bass_X0 posted... http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie? I wish. She looks like this: God, it's worse than I thought. This isn't a case of a mixed-race girl cosplaying as comic book character Mary Jane Watson, they literally didn't give a damn with any aspect of her appearance. As Angry Joe says, they've done f*ed it up. They want this girl with this appearance to be Peter's love interest in the movie, fine. But as a representation or stand-in for Mary Jane Watson, Hell no. Even if she's not called Mary Jane, they're still using her initials MJ for the character at least. They should have just gone with a completely different name. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:882133692] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie?</quote> I wish. She looks like this: </quote> God, it's worse than I thought. This isn't a case of a mixed-race girl cosplaying as comic book character Mary Jane Watson, they literally didn't give a damn with any aspect of her appearance. As Angry Joe says, they've done f*ed it up. They want this girl with this appearance to be Peter's love interest in the movie, fine. But as a representation or stand-in for Mary Jane Watson, Hell no. Even if she's not called Mary Jane, they're still using her initials MJ for the character at least. They should have just gone with a completely different name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/01/17 2:47:02 AM #126:	Bass_X0 posted... They should have just gone with a completely different name. I've felt this way about countless characters and I stand by it each and every single time. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:882133814] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>They should have just gone with a completely different name.</quote> I've felt this way about countless characters and I stand by it each and every single time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/01/17 5:17:27 AM #127:	lukabrosci posted... so they have to go with the pretty girl is a tom boy looking average chick only to be transformed trope as well?? You're damn right. That's exactly what they're going to do. She'll probably come down steps in a dress for prom or make her appearance as a model at some point. I have no proof, but I feel it'll be some variation of those scenarios at least. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882137134] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>lukabrosci posted...</cite> <quote>so they have to go with the pretty girl is a tom boy looking average chick only to be transformed trope as well??</quote> You're damn right. That's exactly what they're going to do. She'll probably come down steps in a dress for prom or make her appearance as a model at some point. I have no proof, but I feel it'll be some variation of those scenarios at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/01/17 11:12:29 AM #128:	Becoming the character is just false character development. You're not moving the character toward the finish line. You're setting them back and moving them toward the starting line. They don't grow as a character. Mary Jane shouldn't be a tomboy who becomes a princess. She should start out with goals of being a model and then realize that she'd rather go into chemistry than make a career out of being objectified. She should be rescued a time or two by Spider-Man, then strike a would-be abductor in the face with a lead pipe when someone again tries to make her the damsel in distress. She should start off as the woman that Peter wants to be with just because she's hot, but then he matures as a person when he realizes that's only the tip of the iceberg of who she is. Instead of any of that, she's one of my least favorite tropes in all cinema: the beautiful loser. You take someone who could be a model, give them intentionally bad hair and bad clothing -- and it helps if they wear glasses because then they can have that oh so fashionable bottle cap look -- and then you have them suddenly start dressing like the actor rather than the character. Britney Spears took her beetle eye goggles off and now she's suddenly the hottest girl in school. BULL SHIT. I'd rather they just make her a straight non-adaptation of the character and leave her as the deadpan friend. Or, better yet, cut out the fucking line, "My friends call me MJ." She doesn't have to be Mary Jane. She's not Mary Jane and she can't become what she didn't start out as. You can't make this character into Mary Jane Watson anymore than you could have Peter Parker develop into Bruce Wayne. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:882145683] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>Becoming the character is just false character development. You're not moving the character toward the finish line. You're setting them back and moving them toward the starting line. They don't grow as a character. Mary Jane shouldn't be a tomboy who becomes a princess. She should start out with goals of being a model and then realize that she'd rather go into chemistry than make a career out of being objectified. She should be rescued a time or two by Spider-Man, then strike a would-be abductor in the face with a lead pipe when someone again tries to make her the damsel in distress. She should start off as the woman that Peter wants to be with just because she's hot, but then he matures as a person when he realizes that's only the tip of the iceberg of who she is. Instead of any of that, she's one of my least favorite tropes in all cinema: the beautiful loser. You take someone who could be a model, give them intentionally bad hair and bad clothing -- and it helps if they wear glasses because then they can have that oh so fashionable bottle cap look -- and then you have them suddenly start dressing like the actor rather than the character. Britney Spears took her beetle eye goggles off and now she's suddenly the hottest girl in school. BULL SHIT. I'd rather they just make her a straight non-adaptation of the character and leave her as the deadpan friend. Or, better yet, cut out the fucking line, "My friends call me MJ." She doesn't have to be Mary Jane. She's not Mary Jane and she can't become what she didn't start out as. You can't make this character into Mary Jane Watson anymore than you could have Peter Parker develop into Bruce Wayne.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaPillow 07/01/17 10:43:00 PM #129:	Skye Reynolds posted... Bass_X0 posted... http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie? I wish. She looks like this: Looks like Kumar with a wig --- Psn: An_Axe_Murderer 360: An Axe Murd3r3r 3ds friend code: 3067 6981 0482 plz add me <cite>OmegaPillow posted [p:882178057] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie?</quote> I wish. She looks like this: </quote> Looks like Kumar with a wig</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pinotage 07/01/17 10:45:00 PM #130:	marisa tomei is such a babe --- Husikam ...Believes in Patterns <cite>Pinotage posted [p:882178167] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>marisa tomei is such a babe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 07/01/17 10:56:20 PM #131:	I thought it was confirmed long ago that Zendaya was playing MJ? Did people forget or something? --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:882178685] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>I thought it was confirmed long ago that Zendaya was playing MJ? Did people forget or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/01/17 10:58:37 PM #132:	Terra-enforcer posted... OmegaPillow posted... I don't get why the change to African American though? Why not? A question never to ask yourself when trying to make a movie that's true to its source material. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:882178796] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaPillow posted...</cite> <quote> I don't get why the change to African American though?</quote> Why not?</quote> A question never to ask yourself when trying to make a movie that's true to its source material.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/01/17 10:59:14 PM #133:	OmegaPillow posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Bass_X0 posted... http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie? I wish. She looks like this: Looks like Kumar with a wig Lmfaoooo --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:882178817] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote><cite>OmegaPillow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote> http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/zendayajane.jpg Is that how MJ will appear in the movie? </quote> I wish. She looks like this: </quote> Looks like Kumar with a wig</quote> Lmfaoooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoldRupee 07/01/17 11:03:23 PM #134:	This race-changing is poisoning movies. --- http://i.imgur.com/3QCCxuu.jpg <cite>GoldRupee posted [p:882179027] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>This race-changing is poisoning movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pinotage 07/02/17 12:22:16 AM #135:	stop being such sheltered forest pansies --- Husikam ...Believes in Patterns <cite>Pinotage posted [p:882182365] in TRIGGER WA... [t:75516026]...</cite> <quote>stop being such sheltered forest pansies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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