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ManSpread
06/26/17 2:45:35 AM
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- no stupid story or voice acting to worry about (most of the time)
- bomb ass music and visuals
- incredibly fun score based gameplay
- one of the best genres to push yourself skillwise and immediately able to tell when you're learning
- niche market so the games are generally dirt cheap (outside of a few examples like DARIUSBURST) and have insane replay value

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ


thats me scrubbing up my first 1cc on Crimzon Clover WORLD IGNITION, a game i cant shill hard enough and a perfect entry point for shmups
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Alucard188
06/26/17 2:48:11 AM
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Because bullet hell games are insane.
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TheMarthKoopa
06/26/17 2:48:18 AM
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I only play Touhous and I'm really bad at them. Though I did a lot better in the earlier Touhous when trying them on my Hitbox and managed a 1cc in PCB with Sakuya
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3khc
06/26/17 2:49:17 AM
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Because arcades nowadays lack new ones.
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ManSpread
06/26/17 2:51:57 AM
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3khc posted...
Because arcades nowadays lack new ones.

theres plenty on steam, ps4, and xbox 360
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MakoReizei
06/26/17 2:53:15 AM
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I played Defender back in the day. was that a shmup?
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ManSpread
06/26/17 2:54:09 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
I played Defender back in the day. was that a shmup?

yup
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MakoReizei
06/26/17 2:56:17 AM
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Nice. what about Space Invaders
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ManSpread
06/26/17 2:59:55 AM
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GiftedACIII
06/27/17 10:46:44 PM
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Hard as fuck lol Dark souls have nothing on them
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Zack_Attackv1
06/27/17 10:47:48 PM
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ManSpread
06/27/17 11:21:10 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Hard as fuck lol Dark souls have nothing on them

srs

1ccing a shmup is way harder than anything in DS
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FrenchCrunch
06/27/17 11:21:34 PM
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shmups?
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GiftedACIII
06/27/17 11:23:34 PM
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FrenchCrunch posted...
shmups?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUIG3hhLD3E

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mustachedmystic
06/27/17 11:24:27 PM
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Because I suck at them.
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ManSpread
06/27/17 11:29:25 PM
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kirbymuncher
06/27/17 11:36:42 PM
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I played a decent amount of touhou a few years back but in general I stopped liking the games because of how limited feeling they are. Not that this is a bad thing (or even something avoidable for the genre at all) but I feel like it's a large part why my interest sort of faded out
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ManSpread
06/27/17 11:37:54 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
I played a decent amount of touhou a few years back but in general I stopped liking the games because of how limited feeling they are. Not that this is a bad thing (or even something avoidable for the genre at all) but I feel like it's a large part why my interest sort of faded out

play non touhou shmups

seriously

they're so much more varied and not designed around how many bullets can you pet on the screen at once
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Cookie Bag
06/27/17 11:40:14 PM
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I own like 5 on steam and only touched deathsmiles and crimzon clover... i've played every touhou though.

Only 1CC for me was Imperishable Night, plus i beat the Extra :>

I wonder if I Wanna Be The Guy counts as a shmup lmao
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kirbymuncher
06/27/17 11:45:23 PM
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ManSpread posted...
they're so much more varied and not designed around how many bullets can you pet on the screen at once

I sort of want to try ikaruga sometime

but ultimately the genre is very... straightforward. You move at a fixed speed (maybe you have a slow and a fast speed) in any direction you want and you dodge stuff. that's like, the majority of the gameplay of most of them, or at least all the ones I've tried
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ManSpread
06/27/17 11:47:35 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
ManSpread posted...
they're so much more varied and not designed around how many bullets can you pet on the screen at once

I sort of want to try ikuraga sometime

but ultimately the genre is very... straightforward. You move at a fixed speed (maybe you have a slow and a fast speed) in any direction you want and you dodge stuff. that's like, the majority of the gameplay of most of them, or at least all the ones I've tried

i cant stress crimzon clover enough

its only $2 on steam and one of the best shmups ever made
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vashmoto
06/27/17 11:49:08 PM
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Which ones should i play on ps4? When's Bug Girl 3?
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kirbymuncher
06/27/17 11:49:56 PM
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the steam screenshots look like someone just vomited multicoloured paint onto the screen

side note but there was this other shump I was trying to remember where the BGM would change dynamically based on what upgrades/powerups you had at the time, any idea?
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ManSpread
06/27/17 11:50:30 PM
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vashmoto posted...
Bug Girl 3

ps4 has what, resogun, dariusburst, and battle garegga?

not familiar with what all is available for it
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Calwings
06/27/17 11:50:55 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Because bullet hell games are insane.

mustachedmystic posted...
Because I suck at them.

Pretty much this. I played a few of the Touhou games, plus Triggerheart Exelica on the Xbox 360, but I just wasn't very good at them. I couldn't even clear them on normal difficulty without using 2-3 continues. I still had fun playing them though, and if I see another good looking bullet hell game get released for XB1 or Switch, I might try again at some point. Steam isn't an option because my computer is 100% complete and total shit for gaming.
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ManSpread
06/27/17 11:51:10 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
the steam screenshots look like someone just vomited multicoloured paint onto the screen

side note but there was this other shump I was trying to remember where the BGM would change dynamically based on what upgrades/powerups you had at the time, any idea?

gradius 3?
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/17 11:51:26 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
ManSpread posted...
they're so much more varied and not designed around how many bullets can you pet on the screen at once

I sort of want to try ikaruga sometime

but ultimately the genre is very... straightforward. You move at a fixed speed (maybe you have a slow and a fast speed) in any direction you want and you dodge stuff. that's like, the majority of the gameplay of most of them, or at least all the ones I've tried

Go look into Guardic and Guardian Legend.
They're both pretty old, but aged reasonably well.
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apolloooo
06/28/17 12:35:35 AM
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i have fond memories of Raiden DX on the ps1
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FightingGames
06/28/17 12:44:38 AM
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because fighting games are more intellectually stimulating
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Cookie Bag
06/28/17 12:47:53 AM
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kirbymuncher posted...
the steam screenshots look like someone just vomited multicoloured paint onto the screen

side note but there was this other shump I was trying to remember where the BGM would change dynamically based on what upgrades/powerups you had at the time, any idea?

IKUSAAAAN!!! maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvdvRzv46XA

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ManSpread
06/28/17 12:53:18 AM
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FightingGames posted...
because fighting games are more intellectually stimulating

Which ones @FightingGames
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Mystere
06/28/17 12:54:05 AM
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Sucking at them wasn't an excuse for me. They're too fun to give up. I played until I got good at them.
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super_clout
06/28/17 1:06:39 AM
#33:


xbox 360 is surprisingly king in that genre
deathsmiles
raiden fighter aces
raiden 4
otomedius excellent
akai katana
wartech senko no ronde
Wii has a few too
ultimate shooter collection
saint
the monkey king
castle of shikigami 3
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ManSpread
06/28/17 1:09:09 AM
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super_clout posted...
xbox 360 is surprisingly king in that genre
deathsmiles
raiden fighter aces
raiden 4
otomedius excellent
akai katana
wartech senko no ronde
Wii has a few too
ultimate shooter collection
saint
the monkey king
castle of shikigami 3

yeah dude, 360 also has muchi muchi pork and ketsui (i think)

one has raiden v, but thats coming to windows this year

and bruh, you cant forget sin and punishment star successor on the wii

game is the GOAT
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BigTee66
06/28/17 2:42:36 AM
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People forgot about Raiden?
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King Rial
06/28/17 2:44:46 AM
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I suck at games, so shmups aren't fun for me.
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MwarriorHiei
06/28/17 2:51:22 AM
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vashmoto posted...
Which ones should i play on ps4? When's Bug Girl 3?

dariusburst, jamestown+, battle garegga, caladrius blaze, ghost blade, twinkle star sprites, raiden.
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SiO4
06/28/17 3:01:50 AM
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super_clout posted...
xbox 360 is surprisingly king in that genre
deathsmiles
raiden fighter aces
raiden 4
otomedius excellent
akai katana
wartech senko no ronde
Wii has a few too
ultimate shooter collection
saint
the monkey king
castle of shikigami 3


The Dreamcast says hello!!

On topic...or maybe off topic...

It may be the longest running genera I've ever continued to play.
I love the pick up and play arcade type game play.
The modern games may seem simple at first, but usually, once you sink your teeth into them you find they can be really deep. As in, you play a game for a bit and think, Oh this is nice....then you realise how the game is really played!!
The music.
The fact that a game might seem random and hectic is actually controlled, once you see you top scores are all in the same ball park.
For Bullet hell games, The on screen eye candy.

Those are some reasons I do play!!
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vashmoto
06/28/17 9:28:48 AM
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Ill check out Crimson Clover if i remember.

What's Cave doing this gen?
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CircleOfManias
06/28/17 9:29:55 AM
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I do though.
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DevsBro
06/28/17 9:31:35 AM
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I do, actually. Hyper Void was an amazing game.
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vashmoto
06/29/17 2:15:01 PM
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Was at a smash tourney (Ignite) right after work. Too tired after I got back. Will try not to forget tonight.
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weapon_d00d816
06/29/17 2:19:39 PM
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Because they typically have terrible over-the-top ADHDgasm visuals and I instead prefer to know what the fuck I'm looking at.
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ManSpread
06/29/17 2:26:03 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Because they typically have terrible over-the-top ADHDgasm visuals and I instead prefer to know what the fuck I'm looking at.

Spoken like a true Halo scrub
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weapon_d00d816
06/29/17 2:30:33 PM
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ManSpread posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Because they typically have terrible over-the-top ADHDgasm visuals and I instead prefer to know what the fuck I'm looking at.

Spoken like a true Halo scrub

You're the only one who seems to think this is worthy of using as an insult.
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MetalGearSquid
06/29/17 2:33:12 PM
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Because losing to a pixel that I couldn't see because of everything else going on is bollocks
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ManSpread
06/29/17 2:35:56 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
ManSpread posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Because they typically have terrible over-the-top ADHDgasm visuals and I instead prefer to know what the fuck I'm looking at.

Spoken like a true Halo scrub

You're the only one who seems to think this is worthy of using as an insult.

Okay, Halo scrub
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ManSpread
06/29/17 2:44:44 PM
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If you seruously cant tell whats going on in this, then yeah, stick to your aim assist Fisher Price FPS games while us adults play the real shooting games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3sq3yKaDQ

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HylianFox
06/29/17 2:45:24 PM
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I love shmups, Compile made some fucking awesome ones back in the NES era
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snesmaster40
06/29/17 2:49:38 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
I only play Touhous and I'm really bad at them. Though I did a lot better in the earlier Touhous when trying them on my Hitbox and managed a 1cc in PCB with Sakuya


Sakuya is the best character.
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