Current Events > Is masculinity more fragile than femininity in your honest opinion?

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I'm being as objective as possible when I say it is.
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i would say no

twitter morons just love to use it as a taunting mark

in truth both men and women understand that to get the things they want out of life they have to play along with their gender role, like it or not, and any failing in adhering to it can cost them

the role forced on men just tends to be a more active and visible one.
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Do you remember during high school, how guys would constantly call another "gay" if he did something even slightly feminine or not "masculine enough"?

I doubt girls receive this kind of teasing for acting slightly more masculine. I still see a lot of that in online forums too, guys teasing each other like that. In some ways older guys are not that different. So it seems that what it means to be a man is more limited, than what it is to be a woman.
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ollie89 posted...

I doubt girls receive this kind of teasing for acting slightly more masculine. I still see a lot of that in online forums too, guys teasing each other like that. In some ways older guys are not that different. So it seems that what it means to be a man is more limited, than what it is to be a woman

I remember some girls in high school making fun of more masculine girls for being "butch" and passing lesbian rumors about them.
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ollie89 posted...

I doubt girls receive this kind of teasing for acting slightly more masculine.

i am going to be blunt:

you think this because you do not have close personal relationships with enough women.

women enforce one anothers' gender roles more harshly than men ever could.

useful reading:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?pagewanted=all

slut-shaming is the classic example of 'femininitysofragile'
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ollie89 posted...

Do you remember during high school, how guys would constantly call another "gay" if he did something even slightly feminine or not "masculine enough"?

The real question is, how did the target react to it?
The guys at my school ragged on each other constantly but, by and large, nothing would come of it. Then again I went to a Portland school where the actual LGBT kids didn't face any real prejudice.
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Darkman124 posted...

i would say no

twitter morons just love to use it as a taunting mark

in truth both men and women understand that to get the things they want out of life they have to play along with their gender role, like it or not, and any failing in adhering to it can cost them

the role forced on men just tends to be a more active and visible one.

I mostly agree. Feminists (because it seems to be feminists-who-are-also-assholes who mostly do it) who want to be antagonizing like to go after masculinity and poke at it. For some reason.

I wouldn't say masculinity is fragile. At most, I'd say it might have more overt rules on behavior than femininity. Because, I think, the masculine gender roles are about getting men to be strong, dependable, capable, etc. because, traditionally and mostly currently, it's largely men who have had to build the bridges and buildings, mine the ore, saw the trees, haul the freight, hunt the food, defend the homeland, etc. And those tough kinds of roles don't mesh well with feminine tendencies.

If it's policied more actively than femininity, I think it's because, on some level, you want to make sure you can depend on that guy who you might have to work with. And you can't count on him if he's prone to crying in the bathroom or something.

That's how I see it anyway.
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Darkman124 posted...

ollie89 posted...

I doubt girls receive this kind of teasing for acting slightly more masculine.

i am going to be blunt:

you think this because you do not have close personal relationships with enough women.

women enforce one anothers' gender roles more harshly than men ever could.

useful reading:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?pagewanted=all

slut-shaming is the classic example of 'femininitysofragile'

I'll read that a little later, but I can totally see it. Girls/women can be merciless to mannish/boyish girls/women.
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ollie89 posted...

I doubt girls receive this kind of teasing for acting slightly more masculine.

uh yeah we do
prissy bitches love to rag on other girls who act tomboyish
they don't like us showin them up in ways that a Barbie clone can't keep up
like wreckin their shit at sports and knowin how to fix a damn sink by ourselves

they also don't like lesbians in the same way phobic guys freak out over a gay dude
just because a bunch of prissy bitches raced to buy pussy hats don't mean they were for lesbian rights lol
straight up posers only concerned about getting brownie points on facebook

prissy bitches are female versions of dudebros
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