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NewportBox100s
06/22/17 2:19:11 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDngL0YFng


I weigh in on this social issue. She was given a felony for the slap.

I would like to hear your thoughts as well.
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Puglia77
06/22/17 2:24:00 PM
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Sad_Face
06/22/17 2:32:41 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Joel's comment from the first topic is spot on.

@averagejoel posted...
2:35, "It's not wrong to slap your child", was where I stopped watching

it's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing here. he is incorrect

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers


In the first line of the article:

The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.


Well, yes, if you spank your kid for everything he does wrong, he'll come to resent you for it and spanking will lose its value as a punishment. Everything in moderation is key.
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InstaReturns
06/22/17 2:33:32 PM
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Ain't nothing wrong with an ass whoopin
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UnfairRepresent
06/22/17 2:38:20 PM
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*Man beats a dog*

CE: Castrate him! Send him to prison for life and and kick the shit out of him every day!

*Girl beats a man*

CE: She should be locked up and treated as a terrorist!

*Man beats his girlfriend*

CE: Well.... I'm not saying I agree with the man buuuuuuuut...

*Parents beat their kids*

CE: Well it's their kids. You decide what they eat so why can't you beat them!? Damn liberals!


Every time.

It's crazy. CE views animals like people, and people (Mainly women and children) like animals.
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Xelltrix
06/22/17 2:42:17 PM
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Unfair, previous.
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NewportBox100s
06/22/17 3:00:09 PM
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averagejoel
06/22/17 3:48:15 PM
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@Sad_Face posted...
Well, yes, if you spank your kid for everything he does wrong, he'll come to resent you for it and spanking will lose its value as a punishment. Everything in moderation is key.

read the rest of the article
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Parkdale
06/22/17 3:49:46 PM
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punishment and discipline IS necessary for the naughty little boys
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averagejoel
06/22/17 3:58:15 PM
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Parkdale posted...
punishment and discipline IS necessary for the naughty little boys

and hitting children is wrong
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FighterStreet
06/22/17 4:01:48 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
*Man beats a dog*

CE: Castrate him! Send him to prison for life and and kick the shit out of him every day!

*Girl beats a man*

CE: She should be locked up and treated as a terrorist!

*Man beats his girlfriend*

CE: Well.... I'm not saying I agree with the man buuuuuuuut...

*Parents beat their kids*

CE: Well it's their kids. You decide what they eat so why can't you beat them!? Damn liberals!


Every time.

It's crazy. CE views animals like people, and people (Mainly women and children) like animals.

you are generalizing too much even for CE
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kingdrake2
06/22/17 4:12:07 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Parkdale posted...
punishment and discipline IS necessary for the naughty little boys

and hitting children is wrong


punishment is needed but without hitting them :(.

taking away things and removing privileges works better.
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Monday
06/22/17 4:13:36 PM
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MoreRpgs
06/22/17 4:15:32 PM
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That kid had it coming.
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NewportBox100s
06/22/17 6:31:22 PM
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Parents should be able to raise their kods without other people getting in their business.
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Yaridovich
06/22/17 6:33:56 PM
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NewportBox100s posted...
Parents should be able to raise their kods without other people getting in their business.


100% wrong.
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Sad_Face
06/22/17 6:43:49 PM
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averagejoel posted...
read the rest of the article


I did.
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thronedfire2
06/22/17 6:45:11 PM
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NewportBox100s posted...
Parents should be able to raise their kods without other people getting in their business.


A lot of parents have no business even being parents
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southcoast09
06/22/17 6:46:51 PM
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the charge seems obsessive and the punishment is not necessary for what happened, but by these rules, most kids' parents I grew up with would be felons.
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NewportBox100s
06/22/17 9:47:20 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
the charge seems obsessive and the punishment is not necessary for what happened, but by these rules, most kids' parents I grew up with would be felons.

I spoke on this in the video, I agree absolutely.
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MabusIncarnate
06/25/17 3:28:09 AM
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Did she powder her hand first?
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NewportBox100s
06/25/17 11:57:18 AM
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 6:07:12 PM
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FighterStreet posted...

you are generalizing too much even for CE

I'm also right
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Bio1590
06/25/17 6:08:19 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
FighterStreet posted...

you are generalizing too much even for CE

I'm also right

Said no one ever
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DirkDiggles
06/25/17 6:09:45 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm also right


Now that's a laugh.
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ToonLinkWithGun
06/25/17 6:32:31 PM
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I spank my son. I'll more than likely spank my daughter.
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Philoktetes
06/25/17 6:36:51 PM
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parents not properly disciplining their kids is partly what fucked up millennials so bad
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 6:45:03 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
FighterStreet posted...

you are generalizing too much even for CE

I'm also right

Said no one ever

When talking to me? Yeah

Because they are wrong and know it
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The Admiral
06/25/17 6:49:55 PM
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You shouldn't be beating your kids, but I have no issue with corporal punishment being on the table as a form of discipline when other methods aren't working. However, the problem is that it's too often used as a way for the parents to vent their aggression, which isn't effective for disciplining the child.
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Bio1590
06/25/17 6:50:27 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Bio1590 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
FighterStreet posted...

you are generalizing too much even for CE

I'm also right

Said no one ever

When talking to me? Yeah

Because they are wrong and know it

The only time you're "right" is when you log off GameFAQs.
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 6:52:31 PM
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The Admiral posted...
You shouldn't be beating your kids, but




CE: Well.... I'm not saying I agree with the man buuuuuuuut...



Called it
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The Admiral
06/25/17 6:56:59 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The Admiral posted...
You shouldn't be beating your kids, but




CE: Well.... I'm not saying I agree with the man buuuuuuuut...



Called it


You didn't call anything. You made an unintelligent strawman post and ran away when you got called out for it.
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 7:00:53 PM
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The Admiral posted...

You didn't call anything.

Except exactly what you were going to say.

And my post was literally the one before yours so "running away" is a bit dumb to say.

Although I do agree with you that what you say has such little value. You've always had such strange things to say about how to treat kids.

But sure deny reality. It's pretty much the only thing you're good at.
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southcoast09
06/25/17 7:01:59 PM
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I got it with a belt when I was a kid and I turned it fine. Hell, my grandpa had a real hickory stick, long and flat like a sword. I used to have a scar on my arm from that stick.

These kids today respond to adults with, "what?" and "yeah." It's yes fucking sir and yes ma'am. They'd slap the fucking taste out of your mouth for saying "what" to a teacher when I was growing up.

I don't like the idea of physical discipline (if it can be avoided), but the lack of it has made these modern kids feral. Parents are young and selfish, wanting to be social and desperately cling to their youth, while they expect the teachers to not only teach, but also raise their smart mouth little brats, somehow without ever telling them "no."

These kids are soft and they're weak. They live on the smartphone, computer, tv, etc. These kids don't know the rules to basic sports. If they get knocked down, they don't get up; they cry and blame. A whole generation of kids being raised by kids and Grand Thedt Auto.

Discipline at schools is just a joke. They literally have cops roaming some schools and the kids still fight and steal and disrespect their elders.
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 7:05:54 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
I got it with a belt when I was a kid and I turned it fine.


"I got shot in the leg and I'm fine. What are people complaining about?"


Generally bad ideas are bad. The fact you ended up okay doesn't change that beating your kids is a net negative and a sign of complete instability. Something to be scorned not excused for.

If you have to beat your kids to parent then you are a shit parent.
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southcoast09
06/25/17 7:07:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
southcoast09 posted...
I got it with a belt when I was a kid and I turned it fine.


"I got shot in the leg and I'm fine. What are people complaining about?"


Generally bad ideas are bad. The fact you ended up okay doesn't change that beating your kids is a net negative and a sign of complete instability. Something to be scorned not excused for.

If you have to beat your kids to parent then you are a shit parent.

How many kids have you raised?
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The Admiral
06/25/17 7:11:24 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The Admiral posted...

You didn't call anything.

Except exactly what you were going to say.

And my post was literally the one before yours so "running away" is a bit dumb to say.

Although I do agree with you that what you say has such little value. You've always had such strange things to say about how to treat kids.

But sure deny reality. It's pretty much the only thing you're good at.


I see your extended timeout from this site wasn't used to improve your debate skills.
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DirkDiggles
06/25/17 7:14:35 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"I got shot in the leg and I'm fine. What are people complaining about?"


Generally bad ideas are bad. The fact you ended up okay doesn't change that beating your kids is a net negative and a sign of complete instability. Something to be scorned not excused for.

If you have to beat your kids to parent then you are a shit parent.


How in the fuck is getting shot even comparable with getting spanked?
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literal_garbage
06/25/17 7:16:04 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
I turned it fine.

We'll agree to disagree
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 7:17:15 PM
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The Admiral posted...


I see your extended timeout from this site wasn't used to improve your debate skills.

I like how you're using "You don't post here all the time!" as an insult.

Also kinda funny to use it as a crack at debating when the post itself is just a bad insult and no point. After being predicted as usual you don't actually raise a retort, just flail an insult.

Especially funny considering haven't you just come off a warning?

So that's like hypocrisy on 2 fronts?

Its okay addy, next time I predict exactly what you people are going to say I won't poke fun at you for it. I know it gets you so hot and bothered when people tell you it's wrong to beat kids.

southcoast09 posted...

How many kids have you raised?


Several but I don't see what has to do with anything.

You think people who haven't raised kids have no right to point out that it is wrong to beat them?

Do you also believe people who don't rape, murder and loot have no right to question those acts also?

You need to better than that rhetoric or you'll end up like addy here.
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ToonLinkWithGun
06/25/17 7:24:03 PM
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I really don't care if people think I'm a shit parent. What I care about is raising my children to respect their authority figures. If spanking is one of the tools I will use it.
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Returning_CEmen
06/25/17 7:27:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent
06/25/17 7:28:37 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
I really don't care if people think I'm a shit parent. What I care about is raising my children to respect their authority figures. If spanking is one of the tools I will use it.

If you have to beat your child to get them to respect authority figures then you're a shit parent. There's really no sugar-coated way to say that. Competent parents can manage that easily without beating them.

And the fact you don't care what people think demonstrates to me that you don't respect authority figures. Which might explain why you could struggle to get your kids to without beating them.
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ToonLinkWithGun
06/25/17 7:29:45 PM
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Well, I don't beat my children, but I'm not going to argue with you because you're a pretty ignorant person who clearly has his mind made up about things.
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southcoast09
06/25/17 7:30:19 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
I really don't care if people think I'm a shit parent. What I care about is raising my children to respect their authority figures. If spanking is one of the tools I will use it.


Exactly. It's a last resort, but when you have a child who refuses to behave, you literally have to show them, "I'm bigger than you and you *will* do as I say." I would never want to be a strict parent, but you can't have a kid that disobeys you when you say to stop blocking traffic in the store or when you say not to do something on general purpose.

It's doing them a favor in the long run. I'm almost 29 years old, and do you think I still don't show respect to my elders or to people in a work environment? Manners lead to social skills and it's no wonder these kids are glued to the Nintendo.

"Oh, the Wii is my kid's exercise and education (and babysitter when I want to go to a concert or a brewery festival)!"
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VandorLee
06/25/17 7:30:39 PM
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It feels like parents that hit have already yelled so much that yelling has no affect. I only yell at my daughter when shes fucked up. And ill take away any privilege i see fit to take away. Its not that im against hitting but i just dont think it works well.
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Duncanwii
06/25/17 7:31:01 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
These kids today respond to adults with, "what?" and "yeah." It's yes f***ing sir and yes ma'am. They'd slap the f***ing taste out of your mouth for saying "what" to a teacher when I was growing up.

Honestly any teacher who would strike a student has no business being a teacher, disrespect or not.
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DirkDiggles
06/25/17 7:32:12 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
If you have to beat your child to get them to respect authority figures then you're a shit parent. There's really no sugar-coated way to say that. Competent parents can manage that easily without beating them.

And the fact you don't care what people think demonstrates to me that you don't respect authority figures. Which might explain why you could struggle to get your kids to without beating them.


The fact that you are interchanging the work spank and beat and don't see the difference between the two really shows you don't what the hell you are talking about.
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VandorLee
06/25/17 7:32:59 PM
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You dont say sir and maam out of fear of being assaulted, you do it to show respect. You dont have to show respect.
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