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StrangeFamiliar
06/16/17 9:32:37 PM
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Antifar
06/16/17 9:34:45 PM
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$71 billion last year
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Printerscape
06/16/17 9:40:09 PM
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Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

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http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue
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Zodd3224
06/16/17 9:43:50 PM
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Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes
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ProfDE
06/17/17 3:19:36 AM
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What I have an issue with is when they buy a bunch of junk food rather than healthy food. Tonight at work someone bought 10 boxes of cookies using food stamps. They also had a bunch of cosmetics and other items I'd consider to be luxury items.
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pegusus123456
06/17/17 3:20:48 AM
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ProfDE posted...
What I have an issue with is when they buy a bunch of junk food rather than healthy food. Tonight at work someone bought 10 boxes of cookies using food stamps. They also had a bunch of cosmetics and other items I'd consider to be luxury items.

Why do you care?
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Johnny_Nutcase
06/17/17 3:22:47 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
ProfDE posted...
What I have an issue with is when they buy a bunch of junk food rather than healthy food. Tonight at work someone bought 10 boxes of cookies using food stamps. They also had a bunch of cosmetics and other items I'd consider to be luxury items.

Why do you care?


Well if they're on food stamps you think they pay their own medical bills when they get diabetes or heart attacks? Snowballing costs onto the hard working Americans that shouldn't have to put up with that SHIT.
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pegusus123456
06/17/17 3:23:48 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Well if they're on food stamps you think they pay their own medical bills when they get diabetes or heart attacks? Snowballing costs onto the hard working Americans that shouldn't have to put up with that SHIT.

Is a nebulous possible future medical bill the real reason

Or do you just not want poor people to eat cookies

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ProfDE
06/17/17 3:24:46 AM
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Junk food tends to be loaded with sugars and fats. This can lead to things like diabetes and being overweight. Guess who has to pay more for insurance? We do.
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Johnny_Nutcase
06/17/17 3:24:48 AM
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I just don't want them to have cookies... I'll see myself out.
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DarthAragorn
06/17/17 3:26:11 AM
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Worst thing is when they pay for junk food with food stamps then buy cigarettes in cash. Worked at a gas station one summer, that happened way too frequently.
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ProfDE
06/17/17 3:26:53 AM
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Also look up what SNAP actually stands for. Cookies certainly do not fall under it.
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BGleason22
06/17/17 3:29:34 AM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


When you say Dodging taxes, do you mean using the tax law to their benefit and legally paying less taxes or do you mean those that are breaking the law and not getting caught?

Because if you didn't use the existing laws to pay the least amount of taxes as possible, then you sir, are not the brightest bulb on the tree.
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SomeLikeItHoth
06/17/17 3:29:57 AM
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Someone like @The_Admiral would be educated about this.

Food stamps is given way too much leniency. I've seen fast food places accept food stamps and I have to wonder how this is allowed.

DarthAragorn posted...
Worst thing is when they pay for junk food with food stamps then buy cigarettes in cash. Worked at a gas station one summer, that happened way too frequently.

I know a fucking Starbucks inside of a Target that allows people to pay with food stamps.
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pegusus123456
06/17/17 3:31:00 AM
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ProfDE posted...
Junk food tends to be loaded with sugars and fats. This can lead to things like diabetes and being overweight. Guess who has to pay more for insurance? We do.

pegusus123456 posted...

Is a nebulous possible future medical bill the real reason

Or do you just not want poor people to eat cookies

Sesame Street didn't die for this, Professor

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Zodd3224
06/17/17 8:07:43 AM
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BGleason22 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


When you say Dodging taxes, do you mean using the tax law to their benefit and legally paying less taxes or do you mean those that are breaking the law and not getting caught?

Because if you didn't use the existing laws to pay the least amount of taxes as possible, then you sir, are not the brightest bulb on the tree.


Who do you think is responsible for laws where someone like Mitt Romney makes 20.9 million in a year and pays 13.9% tax rate? He's "using existing laws" that were put in place because the 1% own this country. Capital gains tax breaks are another bullshit loophole for the wealthy. And people are left going ape shit because some degenerates (not all food stamp users) abuse food stamps, which is a drop in the bucket relatively.
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Nikra
06/17/17 8:48:17 AM
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Well. If your idiot politicians spend more time getting their fellow americans jobs, instead of being in the pockets of lobbiests. Food stamps wooden be a problem.
In my country, no one would never degreat themselves to recieve food stamps. They don't exist here.
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Twinmold
06/17/17 8:55:44 AM
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The problem with America is that the rich are consolidating money and power while pushing the burden of financing America on the poor and weak?

No.

The problem is that people who are too poor to afford food are buying cookies! This is the evil that is unraveling America!

Conservative propganda works on some people I guess.
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joe_stalin518
06/17/17 9:14:07 AM
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This topic reminds me of the time me and my sister tried cooking pizza rolls on a hotplate in a motel we living in... ahh the late 90's
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BGleason22
06/17/17 9:11:03 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


When you say Dodging taxes, do you mean using the tax law to their benefit and legally paying less taxes or do you mean those that are breaking the law and not getting caught?

Because if you didn't use the existing laws to pay the least amount of taxes as possible, then you sir, are not the brightest bulb on the tree.


Who do you think is responsible for laws where someone like Mitt Romney makes 20.9 million in a year and pays 13.9% tax rate? He's "using existing laws" that were put in place because the 1% own this country. Capital gains tax breaks are another bullshit loophole for the wealthy. And people are left going ape shit because some degenerates (not all food stamp users) abuse food stamps, which is a drop in the bucket relatively.


So, you're backtracking out of your "dodging taxes" comment I take it.


BTW, 13.9% of $20.9 million is about 3 MILLION DOLLARS .

That's one person, paying almost 3 million dollars in taxes in one year while about 140 million people pay NOTHING.

And you're complaining that this 1 person doesn't pay more?

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Zodd3224
06/17/17 9:14:08 PM
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BGleason22 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


When you say Dodging taxes, do you mean using the tax law to their benefit and legally paying less taxes or do you mean those that are breaking the law and not getting caught?

Because if you didn't use the existing laws to pay the least amount of taxes as possible, then you sir, are not the brightest bulb on the tree.


Who do you think is responsible for laws where someone like Mitt Romney makes 20.9 million in a year and pays 13.9% tax rate? He's "using existing laws" that were put in place because the 1% own this country. Capital gains tax breaks are another bullshit loophole for the wealthy. And people are left going ape shit because some degenerates (not all food stamp users) abuse food stamps, which is a drop in the bucket relatively.


So, you're backtracking out of your "dodging taxes" comment I take it.


BTW, 13.9% of $20.9 million is about 3 MILLION DOLLARS .

That's one person, paying almost 3 million dollars in taxes in one year while about 140 million people pay NOTHING.

And you're complaining that this 1 person doesn't pay more?

Wow.


WOW

Yes, i'm complaining that a person making 20.9 million dollars has a lower rate than I do.

And when did I say the 140 million paying nothing weren't scum as well?

Why are you so confrontational?

WOW
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MutantJohn
06/17/17 9:16:34 PM
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Ha, I love people who are astounded by how percentages work.
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Questionmarktarius
06/17/17 9:20:58 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Yes, i'm complaining that a person making 20.9 million dollars has a lower rate than I do.

Simple solution:
Flat Tax. No deductions.

There. That was easy.
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Zodd3224
06/17/17 9:28:03 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Yes, i'm complaining that a person making 20.9 million dollars has a lower rate than I do.

Simple solution:
Flat Tax. No deductions.

There. That was easy.


I agree 100%
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kingdrake2
06/17/17 9:31:42 PM
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if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

cookies
soda
candy bars

about the 3 worst offender's.

not sure if it has changed, energy drinks should be excluded too.
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Questionmarktarius
06/17/17 9:33:19 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

Why not just ship a box of nonperishables every month?
Dry beans, rice, canned chicken. There you go - now you won't starve.
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Clad
06/17/17 9:34:47 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


$6.56 trillion is collected each year. The rich are already paying much more than they use.
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kingdrake2
06/17/17 9:36:06 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

Why not just ship a box of nonperishables every month?
Dry beans, rice, canned chicken. There you go - now you won't starve.


sure, but i can't figure why they won't let me buy the last light bundle despite owning the game.... sure would save me 7.50$ damn :(.
could buy it off my other account but too much hassle managing 2 balances.

figured the reason: think they just want to piss me off :(.
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Questionmarktarius
06/17/17 9:38:15 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

Why not just ship a box of nonperishables every month?
Dry beans, rice, canned chicken. There you go - now you won't starve.


sure, but i can't figure why they won't let me buy the last light bundle despite owning the game.... sure would save me 7.50$ damn :(.
could buy it off my other account but too much hassle managing 2 balances.

figured the reason: think they just want to piss me off :(.

...whaaaaaaa?
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Sad_Face
06/17/17 9:49:44 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Yes, i'm complaining that a person making 20.9 million dollars has a lower rate than I do.

Simple solution:
Flat Tax. No deductions.

There. That was easy.


I agree 100%


See, a flat tax rate would work only if the the cost of living was also priced accordingly to your income. If you're making $35K a year, owing $9K in taxes (~25%) hurts a hell of a lot more than owing $250K on a $1 million salary. We're both still paying $10 for a gallon of milk, $300/month in car insurance, etc. etc.
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Questionmarktarius
06/17/17 9:51:36 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
We're both still paying $10 for a gallon of milk

Where in the hell are you buying your milk?
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Sad_Face
06/17/17 10:51:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Sad_Face posted...
We're both still paying $10 for a gallon of milk

Where in the hell are you buying your milk?


A place where the cost of loving is outrageously expensive.
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EyeWontBeFooled
06/17/17 10:59:52 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

Why not just ship a box of nonperishables every month?
Dry beans, rice, canned chicken. There you go - now you won't starve.

No human being should ever feel pressured to eat canned chicken.
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EyeWontBeFooled
06/17/17 11:00:37 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Sad_Face posted...
We're both still paying $10 for a gallon of milk

Where in the hell are you buying your milk?


A place where the cost of loving is outrageously expensive.

Probably Hawaii or Alaska. Hard to ship shit there.
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Zodd3224
06/17/17 11:01:03 PM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

Why not just ship a box of nonperishables every month?
Dry beans, rice, canned chicken. There you go - now you won't starve.

No human being should ever feel pressured to eat canned chicken.


Is canned chicken a thing? Sounds worse than Spam
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Sad_Face
06/17/17 11:20:34 PM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Sad_Face posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Sad_Face posted...
We're both still paying $10 for a gallon of milk

Where in the hell are you buying your milk?


A place where the cost of loving is outrageously expensive.

Probably Hawaii or Alaska. Hard to ship shit there.

US Territory, not a state. Good guess though.
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uwnim
06/17/17 11:30:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Yes, i'm complaining that a person making 20.9 million dollars has a lower rate than I do.

Simple solution:
Flat Tax. No deductions.

There. That was easy.

Progressive tax with no deductions might be better. Need to make sure you don't economically cripple the lower classes. If they are taxed too high, their ability to spend decreases and the economy declines.
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ElatedVenusaur
06/17/17 11:46:28 PM
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Not enough.
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EyeWontBeFooled
06/18/17 6:18:01 AM
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Zodd3224 posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
if we have problem with way it is spent.... just add more things to be excluded from purchase.

Why not just ship a box of nonperishables every month?
Dry beans, rice, canned chicken. There you go - now you won't starve.

No human being should ever feel pressured to eat canned chicken.


Is canned chicken a thing? Sounds worse than Spam


BEHOLD THE CANNED WHOLE CHICKEN
(You can also get canned flaked chicken, which sounds equally disastrous)


http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/04/whole-chicken-in-a-can-taste-test.html
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Questionmarktarius
06/18/17 1:29:58 PM
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Kazi1212
06/18/17 1:43:18 PM
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Back in the day drug dealers around my hood used to sell their food stamps at a cheaper price than what it was worth because they already had an income, that shit was a business on its own right
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Zodd3224
06/18/17 1:53:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Is canned chicken a thing? Sounds worse than Spam

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7164626d-19bb-45c8-a720-14ad1ce3f545_1.78c51ae0a1a5c6b468fd8fb9eb2a803b.jpeg


I gagged...
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Iodine
06/18/17 1:56:01 PM
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Twinmold posted...
The problem with America is that the rich are consolidating money and power while pushing the burden of financing America on the poor and weak?

No.

The problem is that people who are too poor to afford food are buying cookies! This is the evil that is unraveling America!

Conservative propaganda works on a lot of people I guess.

fix'D.
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Questionmarktarius
06/18/17 1:58:03 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Is canned chicken a thing? Sounds worse than Spam

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7164626d-19bb-45c8-a720-14ad1ce3f545_1.78c51ae0a1a5c6b468fd8fb9eb2a803b.jpeg


I gagged...

You must not be broke and hungry then.
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Questionmarktarius
06/18/17 2:00:33 PM
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Iodine posted...
Twinmold posted...
The problem with America is that the rich are consolidating money and power while pushing the burden of financing America on the poor and weak?

No.

The problem is that people who are too poor to afford food are buying cookies! This is the evil that is unraveling America!

Conservative propaganda works on a lot of people I guess.

fix'D.

Did you both miss the part where Mitt Romney pays sixty times more in taxes than what the average household even earns?
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