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Antifar
06/15/17 3:47:04 PM
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Besides the audio being like 5 seconds behind the video in the demo
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Veggeta X
06/15/17 3:47:41 PM
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Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.
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Balrog0
06/15/17 3:48:28 PM
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from the little I've seen, the roster is small and crappy and you need to buy DLC or something to get everyone?

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06/15/17 3:48:29 PM
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3khc
06/15/17 3:48:32 PM
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Crapcom.
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Webmaster4531
06/15/17 3:53:30 PM
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Chun Li looks horrible.
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nayr626
06/15/17 3:55:22 PM
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Maybe it's because I was playing late at night, but the graphics didn't seem as bad as people said.

The mechanics are a bit less fluid than 3 though, but I was never a Marvel player.
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3khc
06/15/17 3:57:42 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.

"Of the year"? Have you not seen the shit they have been pulling since 2008?
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Veggeta X
06/15/17 3:58:36 PM
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3khc posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.

"Of the year"? Have you not seen the shit they have been pulling since 2008?

You've been crying about Capcom since 2008? Holy fuck dude.
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Antifar
06/15/17 4:00:28 PM
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Was I the only one with the audio problem?
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_Raich_
06/15/17 4:00:54 PM
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Visually it's poor quality. Those models are just flat out bad for some characters. Voice acting in the story demo is flat out unacceptable. If you haven't seen it yet, please do. Others are annoying at things like DLC structure and all that. UI too is pretty bad.

That being said, the actual gameplay of it doesn't look bad. There's a fuckton of possibilty in how they worked the tag system in this game so you can get wild shit. It'll likely end up in a KOF 14 situation where people will enjoy playing the game in spite of the visuals, man do those visuals turn away some players.
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3khc
06/15/17 4:06:23 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
3khc posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.

"Of the year"? Have you not seen the shit they have been pulling since 2008?

You've been crying about Capcom since 2008? Holy fuck dude.

I don't get it. So do you recall their practices or just trolling here?
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The-19th-Sparta
06/15/17 4:09:45 PM
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- Small amount of characters that are mostly recycled
- Crap models.
- 2v2 instead of 3v3
- Removal of assists
- Implementation of a power up system that is usually not a good thing.

What is there to be excited about?
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06/15/17 4:15:08 PM
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Veggeta X
06/15/17 4:16:33 PM
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3khc posted...
I don't get it. So do you recall their practices or just trolling here?

I recall them just like any other video game company. Some titles are shitty and some titles are good. Are you tryna tell me Capcom has been the ONLY exclusive company that has been having some shady business practices? Because it seems you guys are exclusively condemning them for it.
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Mystere
06/15/17 4:19:54 PM
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Sounds like Capcom is gonna take ya for a ride.
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hollow_shrine
06/15/17 4:30:30 PM
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_Raich_ posted...
It'll likely end up in a KOF 14 situation where people will enjoy playing the game in spite of the visuals, man do those visuals turn away some players.

People play KOF 14 despite the graphics change because, in most ways that matter, KOF14 is still a good KOF game. Mechanically, I'm not sure I like it any better than KOF13, but I'm willing to leave that as a matter of personal preference.

There are a lot of changes that seem to be dumbing/slowing down this new title, which was already simplified from MvC2. If you liked the 3v3 chaos of MvC3, MvCI is going to leave you with some cold feet.
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Bass_X0
06/15/17 4:36:06 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Chun Li looks horrible.


i thought she looked accurate to actual chinese women personally.
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YellowSUV
06/15/17 4:37:49 PM
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Disney basically made the Marvel side "Marvel Cinematic Universe". Also, there are barely any characters on the roster.
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ModLogic
06/15/17 4:37:53 PM
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3khc posted...
Veggeta X posted...
3khc posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.

"Of the year"? Have you not seen the shit they have been pulling since 2008?

You've been crying about Capcom since 2008? Holy fuck dude.

I don't get it. So do you recall their practices or just shilling here?

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vashmoto
06/15/17 4:40:18 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
i thought she looked accurate to actual chinese women personally

But she doesn't look accurate to Chun Li.
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refmon
06/15/17 4:41:03 PM
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gna647
06/15/17 4:42:53 PM
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Antifar posted...
Besides the audio being like 5 seconds behind the video in the demo


because it feels like a downgrade rather than a sequel

shittier graphcs
less depth combat
smaller roster
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DK9292
06/15/17 4:43:22 PM
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I heard they were doing the on-disc DLC shit again.

Any confirmation?
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green butter
06/15/17 4:45:55 PM
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- 2v2 instead of 3v3

- shitty graphics, looks like a mobile game almost, with horrible character models ( http://www.gamezebo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/marvelcontestofchampions.jpg vs http://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/MVCI_Screenshot_7-672x372.jpg )

- Audio isn't synced right and the voices sound bad anyway

- Roster is very small, with 6 DLC characters announced already

- No X-Men, no obscure characters, and the only Marvel characters are ones currently in the MCU (hmmmm.... wonder why)

- Infinity Stones are basically loadouts

- No assists

- Recycled animations from MvC3 (look at Chris, for example)



and then honestly, it just looks and feels like crap and is a huge step back from MvC3 in every single way. I cannot think of anything that is improved, and a lot of things, like the cast, have been greatly downgraded.

If this was like a 3DS port or something it'd be ok, but as a main console game in a beloved franchise that's been around for like 20 years, this is pathetic. the demo was a complete mess

DK9292 posted...
I heard they were doing the on-disc DLC shit again.

Any confirmation?

https://twitter.com/therealzef/status/874794603492372480
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vashmoto
06/15/17 4:47:50 PM
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DK9292 posted...
I heard they were doing the on-disc DLC shit again.

Any confirmation?

There's an unconfirmed (as far as i know) image going around of zip files with character data from the game. You'll have to wait to see if those characters actually are on disc, and more importantly, how much is on disc. I don't think it's crazy that they would have started, but not finished some or all of the dlc characters.
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gna647
06/15/17 4:48:39 PM
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good thing we get a better fighter all around just in time

https://res.cloudinary.com/pvplive/image/upload/article_headers/FGC-20170613-DBFZ.jpg


its a very good replacement to MVC

i hope capcom realizes how fucked they are lmao.
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ModLogic
06/15/17 5:08:59 PM
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vashmoto posted...
You'll have to wait to see if those characters actually are on disc

doesn't matter. its cut content to double dip.
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vashmoto
06/15/17 5:10:04 PM
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Okay v_v
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Veggeta X
06/15/17 5:14:46 PM
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ModLogic posted...
3khc posted...
Veggeta X posted...
3khc posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.

"Of the year"? Have you not seen the shit they have been pulling since 2008?

You've been crying about Capcom since 2008? Holy fuck dude.

I don't get it. So do you recall their practices or just shilling here?


I recall them just like any other video game company. Some titles are shitty and some titles are good. Are you tryna tell me Capcom has been the ONLY exclusive company that has been having some shady business practices? Because it seems you guys are exclusively condemning them for it.
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thompsontalker7
06/15/17 5:15:31 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.


Lmao

You would defend MvC just like how'd you defend Tekken 7 having no content
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vashmoto
06/15/17 5:18:23 PM
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You're seeing this increased focus on capcom and choosing to forget all the other companies that CE, and the internet at large, has no problem criticizing. It's silly, mang.
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Veggeta X
06/15/17 5:20:37 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.


Lmao

You would defend MvC just like how'd you defend Tekken 7 having no content

I'm not defending MvC. I don't like MvC. But since I don't like it I simply don't play it and literally something else then complain about it all day and night.
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thompsontalker7
06/15/17 5:22:40 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Hating Capcom is flavor of the year.


Lmao

You would defend MvC just like how'd you defend Tekken 7 having no content

I'm not defending MvC. I don't like MvC. But since I don't like it I simply don't play it and literally something else then complain about it all day and night.


People here have played the demo and are in general long-time fans of the series, so you can't just go "haters gonna hate" when it's the exact opposite case.

in other words, what happened in Tekken 7 is happening to MvC right now
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Pastryarchy
06/15/17 5:29:12 PM
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The initial roster looks like shit, but the rest are probably DLC so at least available somehow.

The number of female combatants could use improvement too. I realize Capcom's had a long history of focusing their FG content towards the mass majority of their playerbase (male gamers), but even guys like being able to throw a chick on their team once in a while even if it's just for the novelty. Both Capcom and Marvel sides have a ton of interesting female characters they could have included to at least achieve 1/3 the roster. Didn't happen.

Capcom could still surprise us after the full release, but I've learned not to hold my breath with them. They've also disappointed before with some really bizarre roster choices. Like not just "well this character was at least popular in Japan" choices. More like "nobody actually wanted this character, but we're throwing it in anyway, we live to troll hahahahaha".
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ModLogic
06/15/17 5:55:06 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Capcom has been the ONLY exclusive company that has been having some shady business practices? Because it seems you guys are exclusively condemning them for it.

lol shill logic
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Veggeta X
06/15/17 6:11:47 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
in other words, what happened in Tekken 7 is happening to MvC right now

Except Tekken 7 is awesome.
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dotsdfe
06/15/17 8:20:58 PM
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I'm generally at least somewhat okay with Capcom's practices, even when they get shitty, but there's a lot wrong with MvCI:

-Obvious issues with presentation like the terrible character models and bad voice acting/syncing.

-Too much is copied and pasted from MvC3 given how much downsizing there is. From the demo, most of the characters felt extremely similar to their old selves. Considering just how much seems recycled, it really feels lazy to keep things so similar.

-Small and generally uninspired roster that only has a few newcomers and cuts out a lot of goofier characters that add personality to the roster, like Tron, Phoenix Wright, Felicia, Taskmaster, etc.

-Capcom's DLC stuff getting too out of control. Characters that are either popular or story-relevant are being pushed already, yet are DLC, and given the three confirmed + leaked characters (Sigma, Black Panther, Venom), it seems like they're cutting out a few really popular roster picks for an easy cashgrab through early DLC.


Overall? The game seems rushed and as someone who has really been wanting a new MvC, I would have been happy to continue waiting if it meant seeing a product that seemed a bit more complete overall.
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thompsontalker7
06/16/17 3:05:19 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
in other words, what happened in Tekken 7 is happening to MvC right now

Except Tekken 7 is awesome.


Your standards for "awesome" are incredibly shallow.
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Nazanir
06/16/17 3:21:21 AM
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ModLogic posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Capcom has been the ONLY exclusive company that has been having some shady business practices? Because it seems you guys are exclusively condemning them for it.

lol shill logic

No no, he is right.

No one EVER condemned EA, Ubisoft, or Activision for their shitty and shady practices, it's only Capcom that gets this treatment.
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Howl
06/16/17 3:45:51 AM
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People are butthurt over nothing just as usual.

"Not enough women or black characters."

Everything has to cater to SJWs now or they throw tantrums and try to sabotage things by making shit up about the game.
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FrisbeeDude
06/16/17 3:52:51 AM
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The tone downed roster to push DLC is what is pretty much has me seriously considering getting off the mahvel train. Between SFV and this, i just can't. Watching Justin Wong and F Champ shill for this is just embarrassing
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ManSpread
06/16/17 5:17:05 AM
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game looks like a mobile game
they removed a lot of the the games depth with no more assists, 2v2 instead of 3v3, no flashy yet practical combos
horrible rotser
on disc DLC already
more than likely outsourced korean mobile game netcode (capcom did this already for sfv)

the game is just a million steps backwards for being the 2nd largest FG franchise on the planet

theres a very good reason why a huge amount of the FGC/Marvel community is way more hyped for DBFZ over MvCI

its actually a marvel vs capcom game (just with a DBZ skin)
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TheBiggerWiggle
06/16/17 5:25:43 AM
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Why do people respond to vegy lite, especially in a capcom topic?


The reason for the game's hate has already been touched on. I've played the series, but like all fighters I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan.

With that said, the roster alone is pathetic, and will be the main reason I never buy the game. Even one of the main antagonists (Sigma) is DLC. What the hell is that? lmao
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MwarriorHiei
06/16/17 5:36:50 AM
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The-19th-Sparta posted...
- Removal of assists

hollow_shrine posted...
There are a lot of changes that seem to be dumbing/slowing down this new title, which was already simplified from MvC2. If you liked the 3v3 chaos of MvC3, MvCI is going to leave you with some cold feet.

Captain_Qwark posted...
and gameplay wise all the characters seem like nerfed versions of the mvc3 characters so that's no good either

ManSpread posted...
they removed a lot of the the games depth with no more assists, 2v2 instead of 3v3, no flashy yet practical combos


do yall not realize that you can switch out from literally anything and the character you switch out doesnt leave until they finish their move and that the only limitation to this is a (relatively short) cooldown? the shenanigans that this could make possible is crazy.
https://youtu.be/KJc21_njf5Y?t=66

green butter posted...
- Infinity Stones are basically loadouts

they are grooves/-isms.

ManSpread posted...
no flashy yet practical combos

https://youtu.be/Fg8_0UBgYcA?t=452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xOdlwX4IwM


and those combos dont even use the tag mechanics to extend them. that said, no shit there arent flashy yet practical combos at this point. people havent had enough time with the game yet.
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l Dudeboy l
06/16/17 6:20:49 AM
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It's not being made specifically to cater to the desires of every individual.
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EnragedSlith
06/16/17 6:36:48 AM
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It looks like it belongs on Dreamcast
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vashmoto
06/16/17 6:52:28 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
It's not being made specifically to cater to the desires of every individual.

It's certainly not being made for the people who have been fans for over a decade. And it doesn't seem to be doing a great job bringing in new fans. Who is it being made for?
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