Current Events > So, apparently we're at almost 1 mass shooting per day in 2017...

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frozenshock 06/15/17 11:02:32 AM #1:	https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/06/mass_shootings-1.png Wow --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:881155705] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/06/mass_shootings-1.png Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 06/15/17 11:03:38 AM #2:	Something something guns --- http://i.imgur.com/VleHYd3.png http://steamsigmaker.de/std/_bluezero_.png <cite>bluezero posted [p:881155754] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>Something something guns</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/15/17 11:04:58 AM #3:	That graphic is out of date already because of today's shootings... --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:881155825] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>That graphic is out of date already because of today's shootings...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 06/15/17 11:09:28 AM #4:	And they're mostly black-on-black gang violence: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:881156060] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>And they're mostly black-on-black gang violence: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 06/15/17 11:10:24 AM #5:	The Admiral posted... black-on-black right on cue --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:881156118] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>black-on-black</quote> right on cue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/15/17 11:10:32 AM #6:	It's mostly gang violence. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont <cite>Clad posted [p:881156129] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>It's mostly gang violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 06/15/17 11:10:58 AM #7:	NinjaBreakfast posted... The Admiral posted... black-on-black right on cue Sorry that reality triggers you. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:881156151] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>black-on-black</quote> right on cue</quote> Sorry that reality triggers you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 06/15/17 11:11:13 AM #8:	Isnt that the case every single year? --- http://i.imgur.com/VoUNVY8.jpg <cite>Chicken posted [p:881156163] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>Isnt that the case every single year?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 06/15/17 11:11:47 AM #9:	The Admiral posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... The Admiral posted... black-on-black right on cue Sorry that reality triggers you. right on cue again --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:881156193] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>black-on-black</quote> right on cue</quote> Sorry that reality triggers you.</quote> right on cue again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/15/17 11:12:09 AM #10:	Chicken posted... Isnt that the case every single year? No idea --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:881156211] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt that the case every single year?</quote> No idea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/15/17 11:13:00 AM #11:	If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:881156255] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 06/15/17 11:13:06 AM #12:	america will NEVER learn --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:881156259] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>america will NEVER learn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/15/17 11:14:23 AM #13:	https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/14/the-gop-baseball-shooting-is-the-154th-mass-shooting-this-year/ Apparently, it's been going up recently https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/06/mass_shootings2.png I'm not sure how heavily the so-called "black on black gang violence" factors in, but here's a list of incidents: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting You could just click on each of them to see what they were --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:881156343] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/14/the-gop-baseball-shooting-is-the-154th-mass-shooting-this-year/ Apparently, it's been going up recently https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/06/mass_shootings2.png I'm not sure how heavily the so-called "black on black gang violence" factors in, but here's a list of incidents: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting You could just click on each of them to see what they were</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 06/15/17 11:14:29 AM #14:	AlephZero posted... If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. But that IS the definition law enforcement agencies use. --- http://i.imgur.com/VoUNVY8.jpg <cite>Chicken posted [p:881156349] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> But that IS the definition law enforcement agencies use.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/15/17 11:14:48 AM #15:	The site this comes from is also notoriously unreliable. They include shootings that can't be verified to have actually happened, shootings that don't even fit their own made up definition, and more than one "mass ahooting" committed with a pellet gun in which nobody was injured. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:881156367] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>The site this comes from is also notoriously unreliable. They include shootings that can't be verified to have actually happened, shootings that don't even fit their own made up definition, and more than one "mass ahooting" committed with a pellet gun in which nobody was injured.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 06/15/17 11:14:59 AM #16:	AlephZero posted... If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. The definition used here is the closest to a standard there is since it mirrors the Congressional Research Service's one --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:881156377] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> The definition used here is the closest to a standard there is since it mirrors the Congressional Research Service's one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/15/17 11:15:17 AM #17:	AlephZero posted... If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. Except it's not really an "anonymous person." Look up the links I posted for source --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:881156399] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> Except it's not really an "anonymous person." Look up the links I posted for source</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/15/17 11:15:28 AM #18:	Chicken posted... AlephZero posted... If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. But that IS the definition law enforcement agencies use. No it isn't. Find me a single law enforcement agency using that definition. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:881156418] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> But that IS the definition law enforcement agencies use.</quote> No it isn't. Find me a single law enforcement agency using that definition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/15/17 11:15:59 AM #19:	AlephZero posted... The site this comes from is also notoriously unreliable. They include shootings that can't be verified to have actually happened, shootings that don't even fit their own made up definition, and more than one "mass ahooting" committed with a pellet gun in which nobody was injured. It's only those with 4+ injured --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:881156450] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>The site this comes from is also notoriously unreliable. They include shootings that can't be verified to have actually happened, shootings that don't even fit their own made up definition, and more than one "mass ahooting" committed with a pellet gun in which nobody was injured.</quote> It's only those with 4+ injured</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 06/15/17 11:17:10 AM #20:	The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting"[2] as one in which four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition[3][4] of the term "mass murder". --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:881156526] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><quote>The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting"[2] as one in which four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition[3][4] of the term "mass murder". </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/15/17 11:17:45 AM #21:	hortanz posted... AlephZero posted... If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. The definition used here is the closest to a standard there is since it mirrors the Congressional Research Service's one No it doesn't. The CRS defines a mass shooting as four or more people (selected indiscriminately) dying, not including the shooter. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:881156554] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>hortanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> The definition used here is the closest to a standard there is since it mirrors the Congressional Research Service's one</quote> No it doesn't. The CRS defines a mass shooting as four or more people (selected indiscriminately) dying, not including the shooter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/15/17 11:18:41 AM #22:	I bet a lot of that is influenced by crime in Chicago. Some areas are getting worse and worse. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont <cite>Clad posted [p:881156588] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote>I bet a lot of that is influenced by crime in Chicago. Some areas are getting worse and worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 06/15/17 11:21:42 AM #23:	frozenshock posted... AlephZero posted... If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want. Except it's not really an "anonymous person." Look up the links I posted for source The founder of the mass shooting tracker site (who remains anonymous) was literally quoted in an interview saying "Three years ago I decided, all by myself, to change the United States’ definition of mass shooting.” https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opinion/how-many-mass-shootings-are-there-really.html --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:881156745] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>If you use a definition for "mass shooting" that was literally made up by an anonymous person on the internet and not used by any law enforcement agency or researcher on the planet, sure. When you make up your own definitions you can make the data say whatever you want.</quote> Except it's not really an "anonymous person." Look up the links I posted for source</quote> The founder of the mass shooting tracker site (who remains anonymous) was literally quoted in an interview saying "Three years ago I decided, all by myself, to change the United States’ definition of mass shooting.” https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opinion/how-many-mass-shootings-are-there-really.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 06/15/17 11:27:29 AM #25:	frozenshock posted... AlephZero posted... The site this comes from is also notoriously unreliable. They include shootings that can't be verified to have actually happened, shootings that don't even fit their own made up definition, and more than one "mass ahooting" committed with a pellet gun in which nobody was injured. It's only those with 4+ injured Yes, that is what they claim. It's not reflected in their list. Here are all of the problems with their list in the years 2013-2015: https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/3o91bv/auditing_the_mass_shooting_tracker_part_3_a_look/ --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:881157052] in So, appare... [t:75464426]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>The site this comes from is also notoriously unreliable. They include shootings that can't be verified to have actually happened, shootings that don't even fit their own made up definition, and more than one "mass ahooting" committed with a pellet gun in which nobody was injured.</quote> It's only those with 4+ injured</quote> Yes, that is what they claim. It's not reflected in their list. Here are all of the problems with their list in the years 2013-2015: https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/3o91bv/auditing_the_mass_shooting_tracker_part_3_a_look/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > So, apparently we're at almost 1 mass shooting per day in 2017... (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > So, apparently we're at almost 1 mass shooting per day in 2017...