Current Events > US-led strikes in Raqqa lead to "staggering" loss of civilian life

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Antifar
06/14/17 11:23:50 AM
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40271450
UN war crimes investigators say US-led coalition air strikes on Islamic State militants in the Syrian city of Raqqa are causing "staggering loss of life".

Hundreds of civilians are reported to have been killed since March, as coalition warplanes support an offensive by a Kurdish-led alliance.

In the past week, Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighters have pushed into the west, east and north of Raqqa.
The battle for the city has also led to 160,000 civilians fleeing their homes.

The coalition has said the capture of Raqqa will deliver a "decisive blow" to the caliphate proclaimed by IS in June 2014, months after it took control or the city.

Up to 4,000 militants are believed to be holed up inside Raqqa, including foreign fighters and various senior figures.

It is unclear how many civilians are trapped there with them, but UN officials estimated that there are between 50,000 and 100,000.

In an address to the UN Human Rights Council on Wednesday, the chairman of the independent commission of inquiry for Syria noted that IS had been losing territory at a rapid pace in the north and centre of the country over the past few months.

If successful, Paolo Pinheiro said, the SDF offensive on Raqqa "could liberate the city's civilian population from the group's oppressive clutches, including Yazidi women and girls, whom the group has kept sexually enslaved for almost three years as part of an ongoing and unaddressed genocide".

But he added that the offensive must not be "undertaken at the expense of civilians who unwillingly find themselves living in areas where [IS] is present".

"We note in particular that the intensification of air strikes, which have paved the ground for an SDF advance in Raqqa, has resulted not only in staggering loss of civilian life, but has also led to 160,000 civilians fleeing their homes and becoming internally displaced."

The UK-based monitoring group Airwars estimates that more than 600 civilians were killed in more than 150 coalition or SDF attacks between March and May.

Air and artillery strikes killed dozens more in the first eight days of June, it says.
The UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs warned on Thursday that the assault was intensifying an "already desperate" situation in Raqqa.

Air strikes, shelling and clashes on the ground were killing and injuring civilians, and damaging key infrastructure, it said. There were also reports of increased shortages of essential commodities such as food, medicine and fuel, it added.

Mr Pinheiro also expressed deep concern that the creation of "de-escalation" zones in western Syria - agreed earlier this year as part of a plan sponsored by Russia, Turkey and Iran - had not led to improved access for aid agencies.

So far this year, he said, only one UN convoy had been permitted access to an area identified as urgently in need of assistance.

The UN investigators were also alarmed at the increasing number of "evacuation agreements" in which civilians are being moved out of some besieged areas.

They said some of the evacuations might amount to war crimes because they appeared "primarily motivated by the strategic considerations of the warring parties that negotiate them" and generally did not take the wishes of civilians into account.

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CADE FOSTER
06/14/17 11:24:57 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing
06/14/17 11:25:12 AM
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Genius, ISIS can't kill people if we kill them all first.
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MuayThai85
06/14/17 11:26:23 AM
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Civilians die in war, more news at 11.

Seriously though, what does everyone expect? They are fighting an enemy that hides among civilians and the coalition isn't going to risk coalition lives by trying to put boots in there.
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Schwarber
06/14/17 11:26:45 AM
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hortanz
06/14/17 11:30:40 AM
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This is pretty smart, if we don't kill them they may buy into anti American ISIS propaganda and turn against us.
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mario2000
06/14/17 11:39:35 AM
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"I voted for Trump because he's the anti-war candidate, unlike Hillary"
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billcom6
06/14/17 11:42:54 AM
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Pro Life!
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Trigg3rH4ppy
06/14/17 11:50:51 AM
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Civilian casualities are unfortunately destined to happen when you're trying to fight cowardly rats who hide in the shadows and use said civilians as a shield.

Our options are either:

Risk civilian casualities

Or

Do nothing at all.

Putting our soldiers on the ground into a hornet's nest would be largely ineffective unless it were a large scale ground invasion, but at that point there would still be just as many civilian casualities so it's not really even an option because we'd just be wasting more lives for absolutely no benefit.
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Twinmold
06/14/17 11:51:41 AM
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Civilians die in war, more news at 11.

Really? It's really that easy for you to brush off the murdering of innocent people as necessary? Would you change your tune if they were your family, and some other country deemed it necessary? Or is it easy for you to just write them off as brown people from terrorist land?

We are basically a terrorist factory, producing domestic and foreign terrorists alike. Maybe if we stopped giving them so many reasons to hate us, they would stop buying into radical ideologies focused on killing us.
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hortanz
06/14/17 12:50:28 PM
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Twinmold posted...
Civilians die in war, more news at 11.

Really? It's really that easy for you to brush off the murdering of innocent people as necessary? Would you change your tune if they were your family, and some other country deemed it necessary? Or is it easy for you to just write them off as brown people from terrorist land?

We are basically a terrorist factory, producing domestic and foreign terrorists alike. Maybe if we stopped giving them so many reasons to hate us, they would stop buying into radical ideologies focused on killing us.


100% sure he wasn't so nonchalant about the attacks in the UK recently
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UltimaW
06/14/17 1:08:55 PM
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Trump's America
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s0nicfan
06/14/17 1:11:36 PM
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Isn't the UN Human Rights Council led by Saudi Arabia? Is this the same council that had condemned Israel something like 50 times but Pakistan only once?

EDIT: According to Wikipedia
As of 2015, Israel has been condemned in 62 resolutions by the Council since its creation in 2006%u2014the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined
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Antifar
06/14/17 1:18:44 PM
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To be clear, Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies.
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s0nicfan
06/14/17 1:19:46 PM
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Antifar posted...
To be clear, Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies.


My point was more generally that people should take condemnations from the UN Human Rights Council with a grain of salt since they have an awful, inconsistent track record.
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metralo
06/14/17 1:21:41 PM
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