Current Events > Dev explains why The Last of Us: Part II was missing from E3 2017

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http://www.gamepur.com/news/26921-last-us-part-ii-missing-e3-2017.html

PlayStation E3 2017 press conference ended with a reveal of Spider-Man PlayStation 4 gameplay. Many PlayStation fans (including me) expected the appearance of The Last of Us: Part II at the event sadly was not the case. What could have been the reason behind The Last of Us: Part II missing out a showing at E3 2017? Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann has explained the situation on Twitter.

Neil has stated on Twitter that the development work on The Last of Us: Part II is going on pretty well and the development team is really very excited to show PlayStation fans more of Ellie and Joel's 2nd journey, but they are holding these things back because now is the time for Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, now is the time of Chloe and Nadine to Shine.

"Believe me, we're super excited to show you more of Ellie and Joel's 2nd journey, but right now it's Chloe and Nadine's time to shine." Neil tweeted.

So there you have it folks, now expect a sure and shot appearance of The Last of Us: Part II at PlayStation Experience 2017. The Last of Us: Part II is not going to release before 2019, and the story is the amazing part of the game, according to Naughty Dog.
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I feel betrayed!
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Wow. I know I'm in the minority, but I couldn't give less of a shit about Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.

Uncharted 4 was great, but I was done with the series after that. I didn't feel like I needed or wanted more Uncharted.

The Last of Us, however, I'm dying to see Part 2.
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This is my impression of Neil Drunkman explaining why TLoU2 didn't have an E3 trailer:

Well actually it did have an E3 trailer. Yes it did. Stop arguing with me, I'm Neil Drunkman I made TLoU I know what I'm talking about. What do you mean you watched E3 and it wasn't there? You just didn't look into it right. Also Ellie leaves Joel after the end of TLoU1. You didn't look into that one right either.
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TLoU is one of the most overrated game of our time. It's story and gameplay is highly unoriginal. Why people give this game such a big pass is beyond me.
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Thinking back on it, it does make sense. TLOU 2 would definitely overshadow their Uncharted expansion if they were to show it off.
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Veggeta X posted...

TLoU is one of the most overrated game of our time. It's story and gameplay is highly unoriginal. Why people give this game such a big pass is beyond me.

Literally shut the fuck up
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I would have much rather had the TLoU 2 be a prequel and focus on the events with Joel and Tommy at the start of the outbreak.
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i am really bothered by the idea of TLoU having a direct sequel

seems to me that its ending would be undermined by almost any kind of story set to follow it, esp one that would allow for video game mechanics
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Banjo2553 posted...

Thinking back on it, it does make sense. TLOU 2 would definitely overshadow their Uncharted expansion if they were to show it off.

So what? TLOU 2 isn't coming out this year, so its not like it would cannibalize the sales or anything. And nobody is even talking about lost legacy right now, so they might as well have just shown off tlou 2 anyway,

DifferentialEquation posted...

I would have much rather had the TLoU 2 be a prequel and focus on the events at the start of the outbreak.

Didn't the first game start out that way, sorta? I mean, there was a time skip after the prologue, I guess.
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Veggeta X posted...

TLoU is one of the most overrated game of our time. It's story and gameplay is highly unoriginal. Why people give this game such a big pass is beyond me.

Don't like it, don't play it, that simple, blahblablalblab
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Banjo2553 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

I would have much rather had the TLoU 2 be a prequel and focus on the events at the start of the outbreak.

Didn't the first game start out that way, sorta? I mean, there was a time skip after the prologue, I guess.

A 20 year time skip. That's a lot of stuff for a prequel.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

A 20 year time skip. That's a lot of stuff for a prequel.

yep. there's plenty of space for content, but not after the end. because really, anything they try to follow that with would have to be very cliche.
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It's coming. I'm not worried. Just got to be a little patient.

i am really bothered by the idea of TLoU having a direct sequel

It's a total sellout. Joel's story is done and the universe only existed for that context so they're really kind of brushing a lot meaning aside by making a sequel. But with how much money TLoU made, it would be dumb not to make a sequel.

That said, this could totally still be a good game much in the same was that MGS4 was a good game despite brushing aside a lot of the meaning of MGS2. And MGS2 is still a great game within its own context, ignoring MGS4. I dunno why people have such a hard time compartmentalizing narratives like this.
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DevsBro posted...

I dunno why people have such a hard time compartmentalizing narratives like this.

i think it's a result of emotional investment in the writing
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Darkman124 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

A 20 year time skip. That's a lot of stuff for a prequel.

yep. there's plenty of space for content, but not after the end. because really, anything they try to follow that with would have to be very cliche.

How so? Just because you personally don't have the imagination for a direct sequel doesn't mean it isn't possible to do well.
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E3 is about games, not interactive movies.
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DevsBro posted...

i am really bothered by the idea of TLoU having a direct sequel

It's a total sellout. Joel's story is done and the universe only existed for that context so they're really kind of brushing a lot meaning aside by making a sequel. But with how much money TLoU made, it would be dumb not to make a sequel.

That said, this could totally still be a good game much in the same was that MGS4 was a good game despite brushing aside a lot of the meaning of MGS2. And MGS2 is still a great game within its own context, ignoring MGS4. I dunno why people have such a hard time compartmentalizing narratives like this.

This isn't Joel's story though. This time it's Ellie's story. I'm 99% sure that he's going to end up dead.

_Goggalor_ posted...

How so? Just because you personally don't have the imagination for a direct sequel doesn't mean it isn't possible to do well.

because after that climactic final moment of betrayal, almost any interaction between the two characters put to the screen is going to require embracing very tired tropes in order to elicit a situation that manages to surpass the intensity of joel lying to her face after she bared her soul to him

and then it's just writing the same old stories to sell a game
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i think it's a result of emotional investment in the writing

*shrug*

I don't see how that's really compromised tbh. TLoU2 is a sequel to game that didn't need a sequel, but you can still play TLoU as a game that doesn't have a sequel, ignoring any retcons or whatever and then play TLoU2 as the sequel to it. Alternate universe sequel if you must.

I suppose one of the big hurdles is understanding that this is really the nature of media.
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Feline_Heart posted...

DevsBro posted...

i am really bothered by the idea of TLoU having a direct sequel

It's a total sellout. Joel's story is done and the universe only existed for that context so they're really kind of brushing a lot meaning aside by making a sequel. But with how much money TLoU made, it would be dumb not to make a sequel.

That said, this could totally still be a good game much in the same was that MGS4 was a good game despite brushing aside a lot of the meaning of MGS2. And MGS2 is still a great game within its own context, ignoring MGS4. I dunno why people have such a hard time compartmentalizing narratives like this.

This isn't Joel's story though. This time it's Ellie's story. I'm 99% sure that he's going to end up dead.

From the trailer we've seen already, it kind of gives off the vibe that he's already dead and that it Ellie was having some sort of dream.
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DevsBro posted...

I suppose one of the big hurdles is understanding that this is really the nature of media.

absolutely. it's rather cruel, really: media is designed to elicit emotional investment, even reliant on it, but will betray that investment for profit when the opportunity presents itself every time.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Feline_Heart posted...

DevsBro posted...

i am really bothered by the idea of TLoU having a direct sequel

It's a total sellout. Joel's story is done and the universe only existed for that context so they're really kind of brushing a lot meaning aside by making a sequel. But with how much money TLoU made, it would be dumb not to make a sequel.

That said, this could totally still be a good game much in the same was that MGS4 was a good game despite brushing aside a lot of the meaning of MGS2. And MGS2 is still a great game within its own context, ignoring MGS4. I dunno why people have such a hard time compartmentalizing narratives like this.

This isn't Joel's story though. This time it's Ellie's story. I'm 99% sure that he's going to end up dead.

From the trailer we've seen already, it kind of gives off the vibe that he's already dead and that it Ellie was having some sort of dream.

So you're agreeing with me lol

This isn't Joel's story though. This time it's Ellie's story. I'm 99% sure that he's going to end up dead.

Right. Which was a good idea. I dunno if he's gonna die or not but removing him from the main character role is, like... if you were gonna make a TLoU sequel, that's how you do it.

Which is one reason I'm saying this could still turn out legit. It looks like they're being very careful to do everything right, or at least as right as possible.
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Veggeta X posted...

Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple

Irony
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PrinceDBF posted...

Veggeta X posted...

TLoU is one of the most overrated game of our time. It's story and gameplay is highly unoriginal. Why people give this game such a big pass is beyond me.

Don't like it, don't play it, that simple, blahblablalblab

I do like the game. Very enjoyable. It's just not much different from other games we've seen. The narrative, 3rd person, plot, characters, zombies.... it's all unoriginal. My problem isn't with the game really, it's with the people who gives it a big pass as I previously stated.
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Veggeta X posted...

PrinceDBF posted...

Veggeta X posted...

TLoU is one of the most overrated game of our time. It's story and gameplay is highly unoriginal. Why people give this game such a big pass is beyond me.

Don't like it, don't play it, that simple, blahblablalblab

I do like the game. Very enjoyable. It's just not much different from other games we've seen. The narrative, 3rd person, plot, characters, zombies.... it's all unoriginal. My problem isn't with the game really, it's with the people who gives it a big pass as I previously stated.

You just said that its enjoyable. People aren't giving it a pass. They find it enjoyable and got invested in the characters. To them, it is great and it felt fresh when it was new. Not everyone sees things the same way as you. Its not a big deal.

I dunno, I feel like if I can see the obvious unoriginality of this game then so can all of you great wise gamers who knows everything. Which is why I'm saying the lot of you are just giving it a pass. Would like it if people just simply say "I like this game with bias" and leave it at that but no one will ever admit to that.
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Yeah it was pretty obvious they didn't want want it to overshadow their standalone DLC for Uncharted which is exactly what it would've done because Uncharted is fun and all but it's definitely no TLoU. Plus it gives Sony something big to save for PlayStation Experience at the end of the year.
win/win
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Can you name another "zombie" game where the virus that is infecting people is actually a real thing that exists in the real world? Because I can't. All of them include some BS about genetic engineering that could never happen. TLoU could actually happen in a sense. Also is way, way better written than 99% of similar style games. Waaaay more of a focus on deep characterization instead of "bang bang shoot zombies gore" or RE's cheesy B-movie style narrative.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Can you name another "zombie" game where the virus that is infecting people is actually a real thing that exists in the real world? Because I can't.

Are you seriously trying to say TLoU is some how more realistic with their zombie virus than all the rest of zombie shit out there?

_Goggalor_ posted...

Also is way, way better written than 99% of similar style games. Waaaay more of a focus on deep characterization instead of "bang bang shoot zombies gore" or RE's cheesy B-movie style narrative.

Deep characterization? Are you serious? I didn't feel sorry for Joel or anybody in the game at all. Joel's character growth and logic was predictable. And this game was a fucking bang bang shoot zombie gore in it. Who you tryna kid?
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Veggeta X posted...

And this game was a fucking bang bang shoot zombie gore in it.

Maybe if you played on easy. On grounded or a hard setting it's extremely tense and you don't go firing a gun unless you absolutely have to because ammo is so scarce.
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The teaser wasn't enough?
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Veggeta X posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Can you name another "zombie" game where the virus that is infecting people is actually a real thing that exists in the real world? Because I can't.

Are you seriously trying to say TLoU is some how more realistic with their zombie virus than all the rest of zombie shit out there?

_Goggalor_ posted...

Also is way, way better written than 99% of similar style games. Waaaay more of a focus on deep characterization instead of "bang bang shoot zombies gore" or RE's cheesy B-movie style narrative.

Deep characterization? Are you serious? I didn't feel sorry for Joel or anybody in the game at all. Joel's character growth and logic was predictable. And this game was a fucking bang bang shoot zombie gore in it. Who you tryna kid?

The best parts of the game IMO was fighting people, not the zombies.
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Veggeta X posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Can you name another "zombie" game where the virus that is infecting people is actually a real thing that exists in the real world? Because I can't.

Are you seriously trying to say TLoU is some how more realistic with their zombie virus than all the rest of zombie shit out there?

_Goggalor_ posted...

Also is way, way better written than 99% of similar style games. Waaaay more of a focus on deep characterization instead of "bang bang shoot zombies gore" or RE's cheesy B-movie style narrative.

Deep characterization? Are you serious? I didn't feel sorry for Joel or anybody in the game at all. Joel's character growth and logic was predictable. And this game was a fucking bang bang shoot zombie gore in it. Who you tryna kid?

Yes, since it is based on a real fungus that, when infects a colony of insects, does almost exactly what it does in the game.
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Gamer99z posted...

Maybe if you played on easy. On grounded or a hard setting it's extremely tense and you don't go firing a gun unless you absolutely have to because ammo is so scarce.

I finished it on hard it is still a bang bang shooters. And Grounded is great and all but still fairly doable if you've played the game a dozen times. And you shouldn't HAVE to play an ultra DLC hard mode to play the game it's supposed to be played.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Yes, since it is based on a real fungus that, when infects a colony of insects, does almost exactly what it does in the game.

Ladies and gents, this dude is saying TLoU is great because the infection is more believable. I mean I've said some crazy shit out of fanboyism and bias for certain things but this is ridiculous.
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Veggeta X posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Maybe if you played on easy. On grounded or a hard setting it's extremely tense and you don't go firing a gun unless you absolutely have to because ammo is so scarce.

I finished it on hard it is still a bang bang shooters. And Grounded is great and all but still fairly doable if you've played the game a dozen times. And you shouldn't HAVE to play an ultra DLC hard mode to play the game it's supposed to be played.

Was grounded the DLC difficulty? Even the hardest in the base PS3 version was challenging and added a lot of tension, especially when you played as Ellie because of her really low health and ammo was hard to find at that point. Idk why you're acting like it was a cake walk or anything..it was challenging throughout even to good players.
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Veggeta X posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Yes, since it is based on a real fungus that, when infects a colony of insects, does almost exactly what it does in the game.

Ladies and gents, this dude is saying TLoU is great because the infection is more believable. I mean I've said some crazy shit out of fanboyism and bias for certain things but this is ridiculous.

It's only like what a 8-10 hour game? Pretty sure you should have the hang of it by your 12th time playing considering you should be right at the end by then if not sooner...
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He's basically saying we could have shown it but we felt like shoving our agenda down your throats was more important

Anyway who cares, the first TLoU was garbage
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RockRapDubstep posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Maybe if you played on easy. On grounded or a hard setting it's extremely tense and you don't go firing a gun unless you absolutely have to because ammo is so scarce.

I finished it on hard it is still a bang bang shooters. And Grounded is great and all but still fairly doable if you've played the game a dozen times. And you shouldn't HAVE to play an ultra DLC hard mode to play the game it's supposed to be played.

Was grounded the DLC difficulty? Even the hardest in the base PS3 version was challenging and added a lot of tension, especially when you played as Ellie because of her really low health and ammo was hard to find at that point. Idk why you're acting like it was a cake walk or anything..it was challenging throughout even to good players.

It was a cake walk even on hard.

The game held your hand through out the game. You're going to be fighting zombies soon? We'll let you know by showing spores and you can hear them screech half a mile away. Fighting humans soon? Well we'll give you a great secret hiding spot to start at and we'll make you a ninja and make everyone else a loud ass brutes. The survivor horror aspect of the game is an illusion by trying to say you only have limited low amounts of ammo and items but the fact is as soon as you empty your ammo on a group of hostiles, they always drop enough to refill your stuff back up.

But hey we'll have to play it on Grounded mode, a somewhat insane high difficulty, to get the expectations the game advertised.
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Veggeta X posted...

RockRapDubstep posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Maybe if you played on easy. On grounded or a hard setting it's extremely tense and you don't go firing a gun unless you absolutely have to because ammo is so scarce.

I finished it on hard it is still a bang bang shooters. And Grounded is great and all but still fairly doable if you've played the game a dozen times. And you shouldn't HAVE to play an ultra DLC hard mode to play the game it's supposed to be played.

Was grounded the DLC difficulty? Even the hardest in the base PS3 version was challenging and added a lot of tension, especially when you played as Ellie because of her really low health and ammo was hard to find at that point. Idk why you're acting like it was a cake walk or anything..it was challenging throughout even to good players.

It was a cake walk even on hard.

The game held your hand through out the game. You're going to be fighting zombies soon? We'll let you know by showing spores and you can hear them screech half a mile away. Fighting humans soon? Well we'll give you a great secret hiding spot to start at and we'll make you a ninja and make everyone else a loud ass brutes. The survivor horror aspect of the game is an illusion by trying to say you only have limited low amounts of ammo and items but the fact is as soon as you empty your ammo on a group of hostiles, they always drop enough to refill your stuff back up.

But hey we'll have to play it on Grounded mode, a somewhat insane high difficulty, to get the expectations the game advertised.

That's not true at all. Even playing on survival I ran into multiple instances where I had next to no ammo, only a handful of bullets left in a shitty pistol and was approaching a group scared shitless and times I occasionally had to navigate through groups picking them off with melee because I had like 3 bullets left and group of a dozen or so people and I couldn't get ammo to drop and wasn't finding any anywhere.
On Grounded I actually got stuck on the first bloater because I didn't have enough ammo or weapons to kill it. and other times where I straight up had no ammo at all going into a fight and none dropped during aside from maybe a few pistol rounds.
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Imagine having such shit taste in games that you think TLoU was boring and unoriginal. I'd hate to hear which movies you prefer.
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If you know half way around the game and if you're decent at the game it's really not that hard. Headshots are instant kills, chokes are instant kills, melee weapons are almost instant kills. You just have to really maximize your resources is all and abuse the mechanics when you can.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Imagine having such shit taste in games that you think TLoU was boring and unoriginal. I'd hate to hear which movies you prefer.

Never said it was boring. And I'm happy you think this game was some exclusive brand new shit we've never seen before.
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Veggeta X posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Imagine having such shit taste in games that you think TLoU was boring and unoriginal. I'd hate to hear which movies you prefer.

Never said it was boring. And I'm happy you think this game was some exclusive brand new shit we've never seen before.

Didn't say that either, jack wagon. Care about something that matters a little.
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And no shit head shots and neck brakes are instant kills.
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Veggeta X posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Yes, since it is based on a real fungus that, when infects a colony of insects, does almost exactly what it does in the game.

Ladies and gents, this dude is saying TLoU is great because the infection is more believable. I mean I've said some crazy shit out of fanboyism and bias for certain things but this is ridiculous.

I'm a fucking entomology enthusiast, so yes, it's way more intetesting to me. Try being educated sometime.
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