Current Events > Anti- Islamification protests in 30 US states

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Soviet_Poland posted...

GAMER_X posted...

Question, whats the only religion on earth that has been since its inception, and still is in a state of perpetual barbaric war not only with other cultures and religions, but with its own sects. I'll wait.

Oh fuck off mate. I've had extensive conversations with Muslims about every single talking point you hear rehashed in these internet bubbles. Every one of my Muslim friends on facebooks are constantly the biggest critics of radical Islam and continually try and dispel myths about their religion. I've attended mosque with them and it really was not different from catholic church from what I've seen. They don't get mad at me or condemn me when we go out to eat and I eat sausage with beer.

The morals they preach are virtually identical to the Abrahamic morals I've heard growing up in a red, Christian state. They're usually the first to speak out against some of the shit that goes on in that region of the world.

But what they are practicing is still Islam.

Religion is messy. There's a million interpretations of it across all religions. There are certainly nations in the world that claim to act in the name of that religion and enact some oppressive legislation. I'm not denying that at all. I'm 100% against that as well. But don't pretend that I'm condoning the fucked up behavior to spare their feelings or to be politically correct.

I'm just not a fucking moron who thinks everyone who practices Islam supports literally the worst and most incorrect interpretation of their religion.

The problem here is your "friends" are not actual muslims. They are like typical american catholics and christians, that make up their own rules and interpretation of the religion that suits them, to have their cake and eat it too. Your friends are an extreme minority of the muslim world, which has a population of 1.6 billion people.

Meanwhile the actual majority of muslims take the koran literally (as it is written and instructs muslims to take it literally, and is very clear on the commands there are no contradictions like the bible)

Feel free to take 9 mins and get educated on REAL islam, the islam that has the majority of muslims supporting and trying to advance its goals. Everything in the video is sourced by the koran itself, and you can fact check and research all the claims by reading the koran verses if you believe them to be propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY
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shockthemonkey posted...

Islam absolutely has the right shit in their holy texts to convince people to act like pyschos. And the Wahhabists are absolutely disgusting and archaic.

So why are you not marching against their ideas on morality, enlisting allies from within Muslim communities who agree with you? Why are you building up the idea that Islam is incompatible with the West instead of working alongside Westernized Muslims who can demonstrate how to live faithfully in a secular place?

Because they're racist and need any excuse to hate brown people
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hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Is this going to be the new Red Scare?

How is it a scare if it's a legitimate threat?

It Is?

Russia was a threat, but did that mean the American commie regime was inevitable?

Yes. Haven't you been following recent news?
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@Soviet_Poland

Here's another, right from the horses mouth itself. These people are not radical islam, this is how actual muslims feel and what they believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU
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action52 posted...

GAMER_X posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Protesting against regressive sharia law is somehow bigotry now?

Right...

Where in this country is there Sharia law?

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Please tell me of this Sharia threat that exists in America. I don't see it anywhere.

Yeah, lets wait until it has a solid foothold in the country before we show an open and clear opposition and rejection to it. Really worked out well for the UK and Sweden lol

Where is this Sharia law in the UK and Sweden?

Sharia councils are in the UK

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/14/sharia-courts-family-law-women
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action52 posted...

Where is this Sharia law in the UK and Sweden?

The people in the thread don't even know what that means. It just means to practice the morals of their religion. I've had it explained to me that when they don't eat pork, or drink alcohol, or help a neighbor they are "practicing Sharia law".

It's not literal legislation as people often take it.

Which doesn't surprise me. People are afraid of what they don't understand.

Oppressive laws passed "in the name of religion" that reflect the specific cultural of a select few nations, which happen to be Islam, does not represent Islam as a whole. It's a fine point that a lot of people don't understand. With how vocal western Muslims I've met be against the behavior that is often feared here, there's literally zero chance of it ever getting a "foothold."

It's certainly an issue, but to consider it a legitimate threat in a place like the U.S. is a bit out of touch. That's like thinking we'll suddenly get a communist president next election.
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That's great. Islam is really dangerous.
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JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Is this going to be the new Red Scare?

How is it a scare if it's a legitimate threat?

It Is?

Russia was a threat, but did that mean the American commie regime was inevitable?

Yes. Haven't you been following recent news?

Yes and why should I be worried that Islamic law is about to take over America? What has made that a legitimate threat?
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unpleasant_milk posted...

action52 posted...

GAMER_X posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Protesting against regressive sharia law is somehow bigotry now?

Right...

Where in this country is there Sharia law?

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Please tell me of this Sharia threat that exists in America. I don't see it anywhere.

Yeah, lets wait until it has a solid foothold in the country before we show an open and clear opposition and rejection to it. Really worked out well for the UK and Sweden lol

Where is this Sharia law in the UK and Sweden?

Sharia councils are in the UK

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/14/sharia-courts-family-law-women

https://fullfact.org/law/uks-sharia-courts/

Are there 'Sharia courts' in Britain?

While there are undoubtedly lots of different councils and tribunals dealing with Sharia principles, they aren't courts of law.

Most are Sharia 'councils' set up to make decisions on purely religious matters, although there are some bodies that mix Sharia principles with legally binding arbitration. But none can overrule the regular courts.

That's not sharia law
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GAMER_X posted...

@Soviet_Poland

Here's another, right from the horses mouth itself. These people are not radical islam, this is how actual muslims feel and what they believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

Citing YouTube videos make you look really stupid
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hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Is this going to be the new Red Scare?

How is it a scare if it's a legitimate threat?

It Is?

Russia was a threat, but did that mean the American commie regime was inevitable?

Yes. Haven't you been following recent news?

Yes and why should I be worried that Islamic law is about to take over America? What has made that a legitimate threat?

Hundreds dead isn't enough?
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JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Is this going to be the new Red Scare?

How is it a scare if it's a legitimate threat?

It Is?

Russia was a threat, but did that mean the American commie regime was inevitable?

Yes. Haven't you been following recent news?

Yes and why should I be worried that Islamic law is about to take over America? What has made that a legitimate threat?

Hundreds dead isn't enough?

By Muslims or by Americans?

Afaik, more Americans are killed by Americans than nun Muslims... like far more
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GAMER_X posted...

The problem here is your "friends" are not actual muslims. They are like typical american catholics and christians, that make up their own rules and interpretation of the religion that suits them, to have their cake and eat it too. Your friends are an extreme minority of the muslim world, which has a population of 1.6 billion people.

I mean to say they aren't Muslims is a bit disingenuous, but I understand your point. I mean they still pray several times per day, practice fasts during Ramadan, attend mosque, etc.

Doesn't this imply that Islam is compatible with western society though? That all it takes is a generation or two of living in a western nation? Being first generation American myself, a lot of my friends tend to be as well. You're right that these Muslim-Americans are pretty "americanized".

If they continue to set the example, isn't it logical to presume their religion will follow the natural course that most all other religions have? They'll eventually sect off, and we'll have a clearer picture where, "Oh yeah, this is that violent fucked up sect", but you'll start to recognize your fellow American as benign, despite practicing "Islam"?
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Soviet_Poland posted...

GAMER_X posted...

The problem here is your "friends" are not actual muslims. They are like typical american catholics and christians, that make up their own rules and interpretation of the religion that suits them, to have their cake and eat it too. Your friends are an extreme minority of the muslim world, which has a population of 1.6 billion people.

I mean to say they aren't Muslims is a bit disingenuous, but I understand your point. I mean they still pray several times per day, practice fasts during Ramadan, attend mosque, etc.

Doesn't this imply that Islam is compatible with western society though? That all it takes is a generation or two of living in a western nation? Being first generation American myself, a lot of my friends tend to be as well. You're right that these Muslim-Americans are pretty "americanized".

If they continue to set the example, isn't it logical to presume their religion will follow the natural course that most all other religions have? They'll eventually sect off, and we'll have a clearer picture where, "Oh yeah, this is that violent fucked up sect", but you'll start to recognize your fellow American as benign, despite practicing "Islam"?

He's using the "No true Scotsman" argument

He's already lost
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JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Is this going to be the new Red Scare?

How is it a scare if it's a legitimate threat?

It Is?

Russia was a threat, but did that mean the American commie regime was inevitable?

Yes. Haven't you been following recent news?

Yes and why should I be worried that Islamic law is about to take over America? What has made that a legitimate threat?

Hundreds dead isn't enough?

That says terrorism is a threat and we have known that for 16 years. It takes some mental gymnastics to turn that into "Islam is about to take over America". It's going to take a little bit more to conquer a nation. I know they would probably like to do that, but that doesn't mean it's happening.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

action52 posted...

Where is this Sharia law in the UK and Sweden?

The people in the thread don't even know what that means. It just means to practice the morals of their religion. I've had it explained to me that when they don't eat pork, or drink alcohol, or help a neighbor they are "practicing Sharia law".

It's not literal legislation as people often take it.

Which doesn't surprise me. People are afraid of what they don't understand.

Oppressive laws passed "in the name of religion" that reflect the specific cultural of a select few nations, which happen to be Islam, does not represent Islam as a whole. It's a fine point that a lot of people don't understand. With how vocal western Muslims I've met be against the behavior that is often feared here, there's literally zero chance of it ever getting a "foothold."

It's certainly an issue, but to consider it a legitimate threat in a place like the U.S. is a bit out of touch. That's like thinking we'll suddenly get a communist president next election.

In islam it is permissible to lie to a non muslim to advance the goals of islam. This is known as taqiyya. Your post just now made it clear you don't even know **** about islam and just go off what your muslim friends tell you. You don't even know what sharia law entails. You haven't educated yourself, or done any research. Don't cry racism and nazi when you have no idea wtf you're talking about on the subject
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GAMER_X posted...

@Soviet_Poland

Here's another, right from the horses mouth itself. These people are not radical islam, this is how actual muslims feel and what they believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

Disturbing as fuck.

But I am not surprised.
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Yup, march/rally against a threat that has barely even put its foot in the door. Not like there isn't enough anti-Islamic rhetoric in this country.

No fucking way "Sharia Law" is going to be enforced in this country. That shit has been condemned for decades.

Also I love how, if a Muslim doesn't align with the violent warmonger stereotype, they aren't REAL Muslims. Religion doesn't work like that, we've already been over that with Christianity and the Protestant Revolution.
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GAMER_X posted...

Soviet_Poland posted...

action52 posted...

Where is this Sharia law in the UK and Sweden?

The people in the thread don't even know what that means. It just means to practice the morals of their religion. I've had it explained to me that when they don't eat pork, or drink alcohol, or help a neighbor they are "practicing Sharia law".

It's not literal legislation as people often take it.

Which doesn't surprise me. People are afraid of what they don't understand.

Oppressive laws passed "in the name of religion" that reflect the specific cultural of a select few nations, which happen to be Islam, does not represent Islam as a whole. It's a fine point that a lot of people don't understand. With how vocal western Muslims I've met be against the behavior that is often feared here, there's literally zero chance of it ever getting a "foothold."

It's certainly an issue, but to consider it a legitimate threat in a place like the U.S. is a bit out of touch. That's like thinking we'll suddenly get a communist president next election.

In islam it is permissible to lie to a non muslim to advance the goals of islam. This is known as taqiyya. Your post just now made it clear you don't even know **** about islam and just go off what your muslim friends tell you. You don't even know what sharia law entails. You haven't educated yourself, or done any research. Don't cry racism and nazi when you have no idea wtf you're talking about on the subject

"No

True

Scotsman
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There are people in this country with actual power who are doing everything they can to make it so abortion is inaccessible.

vs.

One Muslim congressman who has shown no desire to impose sharia.
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Antifar posted...

There are people in this country with actual power who are doing everything they can to make it so abortion is inaccessible.

vs.

One Muslim congressman who has shown no desire to impose sharia.

Watch out, they'll "b...but Christianity" because they have no argument
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Soviet_Poland posted...

GAMER_X posted...

The problem here is your "friends" are not actual muslims. They are like typical american catholics and christians, that make up their own rules and interpretation of the religion that suits them, to have their cake and eat it too. Your friends are an extreme minority of the muslim world, which has a population of 1.6 billion people.

I mean to say they aren't Muslims is a bit disingenuous, but I understand your point. I mean they still pray several times per day, practice fasts during Ramadan, attend mosque, etc.

Doesn't this imply that Islam is compatible with western society though? That all it takes is a generation or two of living in a western nation? Being first generation American myself, a lot of my friends tend to be as well. You're right that these Muslim-Americans are pretty "americanized".

If they continue to set the example, isn't it logical to presume their religion will follow the natural course that most all other religions have? They'll eventually sect off, and we'll have a clearer picture where, "Oh yeah, this is that violent fucked up sect", but you'll start to recognize your fellow American as benign, despite practicing "Islam"?

The kid that commited the manchester bombing was a second or third generation muslim native to the UK. So no, its not a logical premise that a mere few generations can "domesticate" a religion like islam. The religion itself, at its core, from its leadership, and in the nations that are the heart of islam, would have to forcibly make islam undergo a true religious reform like christianity did many many ages ago and remove the barbarism and the stuff that makes it impossible for true muslims to coexist with western cultures and other religions. And given the core nature of islam, islam is about taking over the world and ensuring sharia law rules every country. So good luck holding your breath waiting for that religious reform. They would have to gut the core of the religion to reform it.
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Also there was that one conservative congressman who recommended genocide
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

GAMER_X posted...

@Soviet_Poland

Here's another, right from the horses mouth itself. These people are not radical islam, this is how actual muslims feel and what they believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

Citing YouTube videos make you look really stupid

Yeah citing the actual muslims is really stupid, huh

Just shut up.
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GAMER_X posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

GAMER_X posted...

@Soviet_Poland

Here's another, right from the horses mouth itself. These people are not radical islam, this is how actual muslims feel and what they believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

Citing YouTube videos make you look really stupid

Yeah citing the actual muslims is really stupid, huh

Just shut up.

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GAMER_X posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

GAMER_X posted...

@Soviet_Poland

Here's another, right from the horses mouth itself. These people are not radical islam, this is how actual muslims feel and what they believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

Citing YouTube videos make you look really stupid

Yeah citing the actual muslims is really stupid, huh

Just shut up.

"I can't defend my shit tier cites so I'll just pull a Donald and tell you to shut up"

Sorry I hurt your feelings by pointing out how shit of a poster you are, buttercup

<:^)
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Yup, march/rally against a threat that has barely even put its foot in the door. Not like there isn't enough anti-Islamic rhetoric in this country.

No fucking way "Sharia Law" is going to be enforced in this country. That shit has been condemned for decades.

Also I love how, if a Muslim doesn't align with the violent warmonger stereotype, they aren't REAL Muslims. Religion doesn't work like that, we've already been over that with Christianity and the Protestant Revolution.

Remember: Moderate, nonviolent Muslims need to speak up and not be silenced... but also they apparently aren't real Muslims so...
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GAMER_X posted...

In islam it is permissible to lie to a non muslim to advance the goals of islam. This is known as taqiyya. Your post just now made it clear you don't even know **** about islam and just go off what your muslim friends tell you. You don't even know what sharia law entails. You haven't educated yourself, or done any research. Don't cry racism and nazi when you have no idea wtf you're talking about on the subject

Lol get the fuck out. To presume you know anything about my friends just screams how fucking delusional you are. Like I'd ignore meaningful experiences for years over the shrieks of some random internet Looney toon.

It's incredibly convenient when you operate under the notion that every single person of a particular group is a liar and a secret soldier.

I already mentioned I acknowledge there are groups like you've mentioned or brought up. But there are examples of people who bastardize any ideology. That doesn't sweepingly translate across the entire board.
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shockthemonkey posted...

The only people who say non-extremist Muslims don't count as Muslims are extremist Muslims and crazy anti-Muslims assholes.

Hey, horseshoe theory of politics...lol
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shockthemonkey posted...

The only people who say non-extremist Muslims don't count as Muslims are extremist Muslims and crazy anti-Muslims assholes.

It's weird how those anti-Muslim assholes are almost always conservatives, and how closely the (far) rights ifealogy fits with the ideology of strict Muslims

You'd think they'd be best friends or something honestly
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GAMER_X posted...

The kid that commited the manchester bombing was a second or third generation muslim native to the UK. So no, its not a logical premise that a mere few generations can "domesticate" a religion like islam. The religion itself, at its core, from its leadership, and in the nations that are the heart of islam, would have to forcibly make islam undergo a true religious reform like christianity did many many ages ago and remove the barbarism and the stuff that makes it impossible for true muslims to coexist with western cultures and other religions. And given the core nature of islam, islam is about taking over the world and ensuring sharia law rules every country. So good luck holding your breath waiting for that religious reform. They would have to gut the core of the religion to reform it.

So the example of a few select cases means it's 100% forever incompatible right?

So I guess all Catholics are Irish car bombing terrorists, or at the very least, a few stones throw away from being indoctrinated huh?

Your world view is so childishly simple. No, really, a toddler can come up with more nuance than your mind.

Everything is so black and white. Absolute.

Go take an SSRI for your PTSD mate.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense that the Muslim community treats and regards its rulings as binding, demanding acceptance.

Sharia is heavily weighted in favour of the males

For example, Sharia allows men to instantly divorce their wives, and many believe that if a husband says the Arabic word for divorce three times, known as the triple talaq, the marriage can be ended.
Doubt the wife has much, if any say, in the matter.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

The only people who say non-extremist Muslims don't count as Muslims are extremist Muslims and crazy anti-Muslims assholes.

It's weird how those anti-Muslim assholes are almost always conservatives, and how closely the (far) rights ifealogy fits with the ideology of strict Muslims

You'd think they'd be best friends or something honestly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_formation
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Soviet_Poland posted...

GAMER_X posted...

In islam it is permissible to lie to a non muslim to advance the goals of islam. This is known as taqiyya. Your post just now made it clear you don't even know **** about islam and just go off what your muslim friends tell you. You don't even know what sharia law entails. You haven't educated yourself, or done any research. Don't cry racism and nazi when you have no idea wtf you're talking about on the subject

Lol get the fuck out. To presume you know anything about my friends just screams how fucking delusional you are. Like I'd ignore meaningful experiences for years over the shrieks of some random internet Looney toon.

It's incredibly convenient when you operate under the notion that every single person of a particular group is a liar and a secret soldier.

I already mentioned I acknowledge there are groups like you've mentioned or brought up. But there are examples of people who bastardize any ideology. That doesn't sweepingly translate across the entire board.

Like i already said, you don't know much about islam. Your friends aren't actual muslims, because islam commands true devotion and following of all the teachings and commands, which your friends obviously do not. Its not like other religions, it is literal and it is all or nothing. You're ignorant of what islam is and its pointless to try and get yuo on the same page on what actual islam is and how the majority of the muslims on the planet are, because you want to believe what you want to believe. So keep thinking whatever makes you happy, idgaf tbh
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unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.
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GAMER_X posted...

Like i already said, you don't know much about islam. Your friends aren't actual muslims, because islam commands true devotion and following of all the teachings and commands, which your friends obviously do not. Its not like other religions, it is literal and it is all or nothing. You're ignorant of what islam is and its pointless to try and get yuo on the same page on what actual islam is and how the majority of the muslims on the planet are, because you want to believe what you want to believe. So keep thinking whatever makes you happy, idgaf tbh

You need Psychiatric help.
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GAMER_X posted...

Soviet_Poland posted...

GAMER_X posted...

In islam it is permissible to lie to a non muslim to advance the goals of islam. This is known as taqiyya. Your post just now made it clear you don't even know **** about islam and just go off what your muslim friends tell you. You don't even know what sharia law entails. You haven't educated yourself, or done any research. Don't cry racism and nazi when you have no idea wtf you're talking about on the subject

Lol get the fuck out. To presume you know anything about my friends just screams how fucking delusional you are. Like I'd ignore meaningful experiences for years over the shrieks of some random internet Looney toon.

It's incredibly convenient when you operate under the notion that every single person of a particular group is a liar and a secret soldier.

I already mentioned I acknowledge there are groups like you've mentioned or brought up. But there are examples of people who bastardize any ideology. That doesn't sweepingly translate across the entire board.

Like i already said, you don't know much about islam. Your friends aren't actual muslims, because islam commands true devotion and following of all the teachings and commands, which your friends obviously do not. Its not like other religions, it is literal and it is all or nothing. You're ignorant of what islam is and its pointless to try and get yuo on the same page on what actual islam is and how the majority of the muslims on the planet are, because you want to believe what you want to believe. So keep thinking whatever makes you happy, idgaf tbh

"I'm going to keep using my no true Scotsman argument because I have no other argument besides (I hate Muslims because reasons)"
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

You don't get it when I say the Muslim community respects the rulings.
The actual law takes second place, if any.
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protesting against something that doesn't exist lmao
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unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

You don't get it when I say the Muslim community respects the rulings.
The actual law takes second place, if any.

The actual law takes first place because it literally over rules it on everything.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

Please go educate yourself on islam and sharia ffs

Also feel free to go visit the police "no go zones" in sweden that are at the mercy of sharia policed groups and where sharia is the absolute no contest rule of the land.
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GAMER_X posted...

Please go educate yourself on islam and sharia ffs

Also feel free to go visit the police "no go zones" in sweden that are at the mercy of sharia policed groups and where sharia is the absolute no contest rule of the land.

Tell you what. I'll redact everything I've said if you personally fly to Sweden, go to the border of one of these zones, and post a picture of a note with the time/date and your username.

Bonus points if you capture a Muslim in full garb beating a women with a large stick in the same picture.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

You don't get it when I say the Muslim community respects the rulings.
The actual law takes second place, if any.

The actual law takes first place because it literally over rules it on everything.

Read the op link. And read what women say about their experiences

I can wait.
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GAMER_X posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

Please go educate yourself on islam and sharia ffs

Also feel free to go visit the police "no go zones" in sweden that are at the mercy of sharia policed groups and where sharia is the absolute no contest rule of the land.

I did educate myself on Islam and Sharia which is why it's so easy for me to tell him that he's wrong and to turn his argument on it's head

Also those "no go zones" in Sweden?

You mean the ones that don't exist?

http://www.snopes.com/sweden-crime-no-go-zone-police/

One of the most persistent myths about crime in Sweden is that some areas are so dangerous due to outlaw asylum seekers that police can’t enter them. For example, U.K.-based tabloid Express wrote on 12 February 2017:

"The shocking attack [of bottles being thrown at police] on the on-duty officers is just one of many incidents, as officials have placed more than 50 areas on a ‘no-go zone’ list where they admit they do not have control."

Lawless thugs are wreaking havoc unchecked, and officers are often at personal risk when entering the crisis-hit areas.
But Swedish police were quick to tell us that these so-called no-go zones do not exist. The term originated with newspaper columnist Per Gudmundson, who used it to refer to a police report identifying “problem areas” in the country, where there is a criminal milieu. In these areas, there is high crime, low socioeconomic status, and lack of social integration and cooperation which presents a special challenge to police. But Erik Jansåker, a police chief in Malmö’s southern areas (the city is often singled out as a high-crime area), told us that the term “no-go zone” never appeared in the report itself – and Gudmundson admits as much in his column. However, since he used it, the term has taken hold in the popular imagination.

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That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

You don't get it when I say the Muslim community respects the rulings.
The actual law takes second place, if any.

The actual law takes first place because it literally over rules it on everything.

Read the op link. And read what women say about their experiences

I can wait.

I already did

No where in that link does it prove my argument wrong

How much legal power do these counsels hold exactly?
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That's not sharia law

It is in a sense

No it isn't in any sense at all, because it has zero legal power and can always be overruled by any legal council.

Please go educate yourself on islam and sharia ffs

Also feel free to go visit the police "no go zones" in sweden that are at the mercy of sharia policed groups and where sharia is the absolute no contest rule of the land.

I did educate myself on Islam and Sharia which is why it's so easy for me to tell him that he's wrong and to turn his argument on it's head

Also those "no go zones" in Sweden?

You mean the ones that don't exist?

http://www.snopes.com/sweden-crime-no-go-zone-police/

One of the most persistent myths about crime in Sweden is that some areas are so dangerous due to outlaw asylum seekers that police can’t enter them. For example, U.K.-based tabloid Express wrote on 12 February 2017:

"The shocking attack [of bottles being thrown at police] on the on-duty officers is just one of many incidents, as officials have placed more than 50 areas on a ‘no-go zone’ list where they admit they do not have control."

Lawless thugs are wreaking havoc unchecked, and officers are often at personal risk when entering the crisis-hit areas.
But Swedish police were quick to tell us that these so-called no-go zones do not exist. The term originated with newspaper columnist Per Gudmundson, who used it to refer to a police report identifying “problem areas” in the country, where there is a criminal milieu. In these areas, there is high crime, low socioeconomic status, and lack of social integration and cooperation which presents a special challenge to police. But Erik Jansåker, a police chief in Malmö’s southern areas (the city is often singled out as a high-crime area), told us that the term “no-go zone” never appeared in the report itself – and Gudmundson admits as much in his column. However, since he used it, the term has taken hold in the popular imagination.

Snopes is literally run by a derp man and his derp wife(was) that made the site as a hobby and it blew up and people eventually got some warped perception that snopes is the end all be all of fact checking, when it absolutely is not, and they are insanely left leaning. They are not a verified impartial or official word on anything. Oh, and the husband left his wife for a hooker. REALLY good reputation snopes has going for them, i totally want that guy being the arbiter of what is and isn't true lol
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Snopes is literally run by a derp man and his derp wife(was) that made the site as a hobby and it blew up and people eventually got some warped perception that snopes is the end all be all of fact checking, when it absolutely is not, and they are insanely left leaning. They are not a verified impartial or official word on anything. Oh, and the husband left his wife for a hooker. REALLY good reputation snopes has going for them, i totally want that guy being the arbiter of what is and isn't true lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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