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mario2000
06/08/17 11:48:36 AM
#202:


_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?

if nothing else we have absolute confirmation that trump is a pathological liar, narcissist, abuser of power, and not fit for his position
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Howl
06/08/17 11:49:12 AM
#203:


I lost all respect for darkman. He's literally saying Comey never said "The president went on to say that if there were some 'satellite' associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out," Comey says.

How is that not a lie?
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Questionmarktarius
06/08/17 11:49:35 AM
#204:


mario2000 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?

if nothing else we have absolute confirmation that trump is a pathological liar, narcissist, abuser of power, and not fit for his position

Soooo.... nothing's changed and this was all a waste of time?
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Vindris_SNH
06/08/17 11:50:14 AM
#205:


Darkman124 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...


Expressing hope for something isn't an order, whether or not Comey took it that way.


I disagree and trust Comey's reading of the situation, but that's for our government to decide.

It is, however, an example of you lying about Trump encouraging the investigation of Flynn to continue. He specifically stated the opposite: encouraging that the investigation end.

You are a liar.


I'm just emphasizing what Comey said. Not sure how that's lying.
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Steve Nick
06/08/17 11:50:24 AM
#206:


mario2000 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?

if nothing else we have absolute confirmation that trump is a pathological liar, narcissist, abuser of power, and not fit for his position



Since you said 'we', I'll assume that you fit in the liberal meltdown category.

So you were okay with Hillary and her entire staff saying, "I do not recall" for a year straight?
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Darkman124
06/08/17 11:50:57 AM
#207:


Howl posted...
I lost all respect for darkman. He's literally saying Comey never said "The president went on to say that if there were some 'satellite' associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out," Comey says.

How is that not a lie?


I'm not saying Comey never said those things: I'm saying that's irrelevant in context of his later attempt to quash the Flynn investigation, which is what another user claimed.

Trump attempted to halt the investigation when it posed the risk of impacting Flynn.

Your attempts to smear me will not work for you.
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Howl
06/08/17 11:50:59 AM
#208:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...


Expressing hope for something isn't an order, whether or not Comey took it that way.


I disagree and trust Comey's reading of the situation, but that's for our government to decide.

It is, however, an example of you lying about Trump encouraging the investigation of Flynn to continue. He specifically stated the opposite: encouraging that the investigation end.

You are a liar.


I'm just emphasizing what Comey said. Not sure how that's lying.


It's not darkman is straight up lying about this.
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Howl
06/08/17 11:51:34 AM
#209:


Darkman124 posted...
Howl posted...
I lost all respect for darkman. He's literally saying Comey never said "The president went on to say that if there were some 'satellite' associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out," Comey says.

How is that not a lie?


I'm not saying Comey never said those things: I'm saying that's irrelevant in context of his later attempt to quash the Flynn investigation, which is what another user claimed.

Trump attempted to halt the investigation when it posed the risk of impacting Flynn.

Your attempts to smear me will not work for you.


You said that he never said that, which is a lie.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 11:52:13 AM
#210:


Howl posted...

You said that he never said that, which is a lie.


We're talking about two separate conversations.

One of which ceased to be relevant when he reversed course.
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Cocytus
06/08/17 11:52:19 AM
#211:


darkphoenix181 posted...
The thing is that while it is not semantically an order it essentially works out to be an order.

Say you meet your boss a few days before your yearly review and he says "I would really like if this project is finished TONIGHT!"

Now, did he say "I as your boss command you to finish tonight!" no
Did he say "Finish the project tonight or you are fired!" no

But he did strongly tell you that his pleasure is that it is finished tonight and you understand that you will be reviewed as an employee in a few days, so you will likely want to do that to please him to get a good review.
Yes he never said you needed to do it to get a good review, but common sense says that if it is important enough for him to say he really wants it, not doing it means you get a bad review.

So Trump saying this to Comey was essentially saying "if you don't do this, I will probably fire you"
which is very close to illegal if not totally illegal

I agree. Leaning and leverage to lay off Michael Flynn, in the role of President.
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Vindris_SNH
06/08/17 11:52:20 AM
#212:


Darkman124 posted...
Howl posted...
I lost all respect for darkman. He's literally saying Comey never said "The president went on to say that if there were some 'satellite' associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out," Comey says.

How is that not a lie?


I'm not saying Comey never said those things: I'm saying that's irrelevant in context of his later attempt to quash the Flynn investigation, which is what another user claimed.

Trump attempted to halt the investigation when it posed the risk of impacting Flynn.

Your attempts to smear me will not work for you.


Actually his attempts are working.
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Kim Kusanagi
06/08/17 11:52:50 AM
#213:


Howl posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Howl posted...
I lost all respect for darkman. He's literally saying Comey never said "The president went on to say that if there were some 'satellite' associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out," Comey says.

How is that not a lie?


I'm not saying Comey never said those things: I'm saying that's irrelevant in context of his later attempt to quash the Flynn investigation, which is what another user claimed.

Trump attempted to halt the investigation when it posed the risk of impacting Flynn.

Your attempts to smear me will not work for you.


You said that he never said that, which is a lie.


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VectorChaos
06/08/17 11:52:53 AM
#214:


_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?


You know people are going to riot if nothing happens. Violent tantrums are the left's go-to when not getting their way nowadays.

An ideology of angry children.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 11:53:11 AM
#215:


Vindris_SNH posted...


Actually his attempts are working.


You can hope that all you want.
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fire_bolt
06/08/17 11:53:54 AM
#216:


Vertania posted...
fire_bolt posted...
The difference is that there's not evidence that Seth Rich in any way was involved in the Wikileaks bullshit. Show me different, troll. I'll wait

For starters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg


Good job, you used a person who has clearly shown to have an agenda to support your claims. Now, find some factual evidence, not the testimony of someone who would benefit from lying.
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Caution999
06/08/17 11:54:07 AM
#217:


Soon a Starbucks will be destroyed, sadly :(
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Howl
06/08/17 11:56:15 AM
#218:


Darkman124 posted...
Howl posted...

You said that he never said that, which is a lie.


We're talking about two separate conversations.

One of which ceased to be relevant when he reversed course.


No, you straight up said he didn't say that when he did. Then you try to backpedal and say him saying that was irrelevant. You can try to semantically argue that the later statement invalidated the first one but that's not what you originally said. You said it's a lie that he said that when he clearly did. You are a liar.
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BillyKidd
06/08/17 11:57:11 AM
#219:


Caution999 posted...
Soon a Starbucks will be destroyed, sadly :(


poor bastards
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ZMythos
06/08/17 11:57:36 AM
#220:


So Russia did directly involve themselves in the election

Makes you wonder why the POTUS wants to be butt buddies with them
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Nomadic View
06/08/17 11:58:52 AM
#221:


_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?


It's going to be over 9000, but they'll just double down and call Comey a liar. Praise be to anonymous source peace be upon him and glory to his holy word.
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Caution999
06/08/17 12:00:12 PM
#222:


Nomadic View posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?


It's going to be over 9000, but they'll just double down and call Comey a liar. Praise be to anonymous source peace be upon him and glory to his holy word.


Oh, so the liberals will hate Comey again?
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Nomadic View
06/08/17 12:00:57 PM
#223:


Caution999 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Scale of 1- 10, how bad will the liberal meltdown be if nothing comes of this? Will they have to relent and stfu about wrongdoing like they expect the right wingers to do about Clinton?


It's going to be over 9000, but they'll just double down and call Comey a liar. Praise be to anonymous source peace be upon him and glory to his holy word.


Oh, so the liberals will hate Comey again?


Of course.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 12:04:49 PM
#224:


Howl posted...

No, you straight up said he didn't say that when he did. Then you try to backpedal and say him saying that was irrelevant. You can try to semantically argue that the later statement invalidated the first one but that's not what you originally said. You said it's a lie that he said that when he clearly did. You are a liar.


the post in question:

Darkman124 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...

If that's a lie, then Comey just lied.


No, you lied about what he said.

He asked Comey to 'go public' that Trump himself was not under investigation, and he said "I hope you can let [Flynn's investigation] go" which Comey understood to be an order to the exact opposite of what you claim.


We're talking about two different conversations. Anyone interpreting Trump's position following their discussion about the Flynn investigation as holding to the previous statement of encouragement is lying. Legally, it won't be enough to argue obstruction of justice (probably).

But the latter statement very much invalidates the first and reflects a reversal of course, and that's not backpedaling, that's recognizing the president-elect changed his position when he realized Flynn specifically was under investigation.
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Vertania
06/08/17 12:14:06 PM
#225:


fire_bolt posted...
Good job, you used a person who has clearly shown to have an agenda to support your claims. Now, find some factual evidence, not the testimony of someone who would benefit from lying.

You went from saying there was no "evidence that Seth Rich in any way was involved in the Wikileaks bullshit" to dismissing evidence and asking for "factual evidence." Since I can forsee that you'll just keep moving the goalposts, I'm not sure I want to waste time on you. Go watch OANN's summary if you need to be caught up.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 12:14:12 PM
#226:


Unrelated: stock response to this is mostly muted, S&P less than .1% move

but the small cap index is rallying hard for some reason.
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BLAKUboy
06/08/17 12:21:39 PM
#227:


Literally US Senators playing the "but her emails" card.
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KlRBEH
06/08/17 12:22:54 PM
#228:


why is this still going on
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Darkman124
06/08/17 12:23:33 PM
#230:


M_Live posted...
Why are there so many "But Hillary" posts in this topic. Nobody gives a fuck about Hillary


because the republicans asking him questions repeatedly bring up hillary's email investigation as a comparison point
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BLAKUboy
06/08/17 12:23:57 PM
#231:


M_Live posted...
Why are there so many "But Hillary" posts in this topic. Nobody gives a fuck about Hillary

Several Senators clearly do.
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fire_bolt
06/08/17 12:24:47 PM
#232:


Vertania posted...
fire_bolt posted...
Good job, you used a person who has clearly shown to have an agenda to support your claims. Now, find some factual evidence, not the testimony of someone who would benefit from lying.

You went from saying there was no "evidence that Seth Rich in any way was involved in the Wikileaks bullshit" to dismissing evidence and asking for "factual evidence." Since I can forsee that you'll just keep moving the goalposts, I'm not sure I want to waste time on you. Go watch OANN's summary if you need to be caught up.


If your evidence isn't factual, I don't think its relevant anyway. Ta-ta!
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davyheinz
06/08/17 12:25:23 PM
#233:


All the trumpanzees lying in this topic. They have no shame.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 12:33:15 PM
#234:


"I was fired because of the Russia investigation. I was fired in some way to change — or the endeavor was to change the way in which the investigation was being conducted." Comey, 12:30 EST
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Freddie_Mercury
06/08/17 12:33:27 PM
#235:


McCain: But Hillary is still sending emails?


McCain: FAKE NEWS
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BLAKUboy
06/08/17 12:33:28 PM
#236:


I'm barely listening right now, what is McCain rambling about?
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BillyKidd
06/08/17 12:34:23 PM
#237:


http://circa.com/politics/comey-says-former-obama-ag-pressured-him-on-clinton-email-case
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Antifar
06/08/17 12:34:23 PM
#238:


McCain is currently conflating the Clinton investigation and the Russia one. Dude is senile.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 12:34:33 PM
#239:


BLAKUboy posted...
I'm barely listening right now, what is McCain rambling about?


basically he's asking how they were able to conclude clinton's investigation but not flynn's

and he's not understanding that trump is not personally under investigation
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Capn Circus
06/08/17 12:35:01 PM
#241:


McCain is senile
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Cocytus
06/08/17 12:35:10 PM
#242:


BLAKUboy posted...
I'm barely listening right now, what is McCain rambling about?

He has some kind of problem with the HClinton emails investigation. I think he's trying to say Comey is being bias with cases, or disingenuous, or selectively unfair.
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SK8T3R215
06/08/17 12:35:19 PM
#243:


Yikes McCain this hurts
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AlternativeFAQS
06/08/17 12:36:39 PM
#244:


wtf is mccain on
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dummy420
06/08/17 12:36:48 PM
#245:


McCain just can't grasp that there are 2 different investigations.
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Darkman124
06/08/17 12:37:19 PM
#246:


now being asked about "that thing", a good question from mccain for a change
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AlternativeFAQS
06/08/17 12:37:32 PM
#248:


McCain wants to get aroused by that thing
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Vertania
06/08/17 12:37:55 PM
#249:


fire_bolt posted...
If your evidence isn't factual, I don't think its relevant anyway. Ta-ta!

There is plenty of factual evidence supporting the theory that he was the leaker. However, there is no single, direct piece yet that specifically proves it was him, which seems to be what you're going for.
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CruelBuffalo
06/08/17 12:41:22 PM
#250:


Antifar posted...
McCain is currently conflating the Clinton investigation and the Russia one. Dude is senile.


McCain clearly didn't eat breakfast this morning. Lol that was embarrassing to listen to
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Boombam99
06/08/17 12:41:34 PM
#251:


Capn Circus posted...
McCain is senile
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