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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 8:44:26 AM
#454:


SupremeZero posted...
... that table isn't of the views of the channel, they're "How many viewers voted blue". How the hell do you even take that thing as an indication of the views of the channel on the spectrum. It is literally binary "Voted Blue vs Voted Red".

... wait. Are you becoming Ulti? In his absence have you stretched to fill his "not actually reading things you post" niche?

... You do not understand the correlation between the audiences growing more partisan and the content becoming more partisan? Do you truly believe that the networks are completely in the center despite their viewers shifting dramatically toward one party vs another?
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 8:48:03 AM
#455:


This topic is becoming tiresome. Not because of the ideological makeup, but most of you are so dense that I have to post like 6 times for you to understand a simple point.
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Peace___Frog
06/08/17 8:51:18 AM
#456:


I think part of it is that not everything is as clear cut as you pretend it is. Obviously content and viewership are correlated, but I highly doubt they are perfectly aligned.

Like, you're presenting it as "the r value here is equal to one. Anyone who disagrees is saying that the r value is equal to zero. Those are the only possibilities. It cannot be zero, therefore it is one."
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 8:54:30 AM
#457:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
This topic is becoming tiresome. Not because of the ideological makeup, but most of you are so dense that I have to post like 6 times for you to understand a simple point.


*recalls trying to help you understand being transgender.*
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Mr Lasastryke
06/08/17 8:55:17 AM
#458:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
most of you are so dense


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Name-calling is unproductive and distracting to the substance of the discussion.

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Jakyl25
06/08/17 8:58:28 AM
#459:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
SupremeZero posted...
... that table isn't of the views of the channel, they're "How many viewers voted blue". How the hell do you even take that thing as an indication of the views of the channel on the spectrum. It is literally binary "Voted Blue vs Voted Red".

... wait. Are you becoming Ulti? In his absence have you stretched to fill his "not actually reading things you post" niche?

... You do not understand the correlation between the audiences growing more partisan and the content becoming more partisan? Do you truly believe that the networks are completely in the center despite their viewers shifting dramatically toward one party vs another?


Do you believe that both MSNBC and Fox News have shifted slightly towards the center since 2012, as the chart would indicate if it was true 1:1 comparison between viewers and content?
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My Immortal
06/08/17 10:30:36 AM
#460:


Just turning on Comey now - did I miss anything interesting?
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 10:34:12 AM
#461:


The whole gist of this I think is "getting things attributed to anonymous sources onto the record" or in some cases "refuting things attributed to anonymous sources on the record."
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 10:38:23 AM
#462:


My Immortal posted...
Just turning on Comey now - did I miss anything interesting?


I can't actually listen right now but based on Twitter, both sides seem to be hearing things they want to hear

Rs: "See, Trump never asked Comey to stop investigating Russia!"
Ds: "See, Trump's written version of why Comey needed to be fired was a lie!"

I don't think either of those things were ever actually in question.
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banananor
06/08/17 10:54:44 AM
#463:


lol, this bozo, acting like using mafia euphamisms means nothing was done wrong

"has anyone ever been thrown in jail for hoping something" give me a break, how more political can you get. might as well ask if anyone has been prosecuted for "giving an offer someone can't refuse"

my impression is that trump's campaign or people in his campaign were under investigation, and trump was acting like an idiot. why does this hearing have to be so difficult?
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banananor
06/08/17 10:54:57 AM
#464:


the fact that a super pac took out attack ads is telling
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CelesMyUserName
06/08/17 11:08:08 AM
#465:


banananor posted...
"has anyone ever been thrown in jail for hoping something" give me a break, how more political can you get. might as well ask if anyone has been prosecuted for "giving an offer someone can't refuse"

Seriously, what the fuck was that.

Because Comey would know all cases of people using "I hope" beating around the bush nonsense
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:12:57 AM
#466:


Haven't gotten a chance to watch it but the testimony sounds pretty good. Not "omg the trump administration is done" good but illustrating it's shady as fuck and there are certain members who are working with Russia.

Also the pee tape is real.
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 11:13:41 AM
#467:


Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
This topic is becoming tiresome. Not because of the ideological makeup, but most of you are so dense that I have to post like 6 times for you to understand a simple point.


*recalls trying to help you understand being transgender.*


simple point

transgender
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:14:54 AM
#468:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
This topic is becoming tiresome. Not because of the ideological makeup, but most of you are so dense that I have to post like 6 times for you to understand a simple point.


*recalls trying to help you understand being transgender.*


simple point

transgender


Transgender is simple, yes.
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 11:15:57 AM
#469:


TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
This topic is becoming tiresome. Not because of the ideological makeup, but most of you are so dense that I have to post like 6 times for you to understand a simple point.


*recalls trying to help you understand being transgender.*


simple point

transgender


Transgender is simple, yes.

That explains why there is little debate these days about it!
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banananor
06/08/17 11:17:22 AM
#470:


man, some of our congressional representatives are so old
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 11:17:26 AM
#471:


There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:17:29 AM
#472:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
This topic is becoming tiresome. Not because of the ideological makeup, but most of you are so dense that I have to post like 6 times for you to understand a simple point.


*recalls trying to help you understand being transgender.*


simple point

transgender


Transgender is simple, yes.

That explains why there is little debate these days about it!


I mean theres only side that wants a debate. The other wants to go with relatively settled science on the matter.

You know, kinda like climate change.
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Seginustemple
06/08/17 11:18:47 AM
#473:


let's dispel with this fiction that trump didn't know what he was asking, he knew exactly what he was asking
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 11:19:23 AM
#474:


Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:20:29 AM
#475:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


Only for you, maybe. Pretty straight forward for most people.
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 11:20:36 AM
#476:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


And you call us dense
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 11:20:57 AM
#477:


TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


Only for you, maybe. Pretty straight forward for most people.


I see what you did there
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Mr Lasastryke
06/08/17 11:22:38 AM
#478:


i'd say it's extremely rude and dickish to dismiss people who don't immediately understand a point (whether it's simple or complex) as "dense," but hey, what do i know.
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Jakyl25
06/08/17 11:22:41 AM
#479:


How about being black

Is the idea of being black complicated?
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:24:55 AM
#480:


Who knew being straight was so complicated?
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FFDragon
06/08/17 11:26:23 AM
#481:


Seginustemple posted...
let's dispel with this fiction that trump didn't know what he was asking, he knew exactly what he was asking


to be fair, sometimes I wonder if he can tie his shoes

i mean, the dude scotch tapes his tie
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:28:38 AM
#482:


https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/872831021162659841

Hahahaha
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 11:29:17 AM
#483:


Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


And you call us dense

You don't think that there is still discourse (academic and layman) about how/when/why people are homosexuals? (ie, is it genetic--and if so, how is the gene passed on; can it be nurtured and how young does this development occur?)

Why is this triggering you? I'm not trying to troll
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Mr Lasastryke
06/08/17 11:30:27 AM
#484:


TheRock1525 posted...
https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/872831021162659841

Hahahaha


it says "donny tromps" now.
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:36:30 AM
#485:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


And you call us dense

You don't think that there is still discourse (academic and layman) about how/when/why people are homosexuals? (ie, is it genetic--and if so, how is the gene passed on; can it be nurtured and how young does this development occur?)

Why is this triggering you? I'm not trying to troll


The idea of being gay and the reasons why people are gay are massively different things.
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EndOfDiscOne
06/08/17 11:39:09 AM
#486:


Can you accept a blowjob from a dude and not be gay?
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Kenri
06/08/17 11:40:02 AM
#487:


Jakyl25 posted...
How about being black

Is the idea of being black complicated?

honestly much more so than lots of people realize

sort of like gender, people try to pretend it's biological instead of just some Grade A Nonsense that humanity made up.
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 11:40:14 AM
#488:


TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


And you call us dense

You don't think that there is still discourse (academic and layman) about how/when/why people are homosexuals? (ie, is it genetic--and if so, how is the gene passed on; can it be nurtured and how young does this development occur?)

Why is this triggering you? I'm not trying to troll


The idea of being gay and the reasons why people are gay are massively different things.

And so is the idea of being trans vs the reasons why people are trans

My difficulty understanding trans issues stems around the reasons why people are trans (ie, do these people suffer from a mental illness like body dysmorphia?).
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XIII_rocks
06/08/17 11:42:25 AM
#489:


I like moustache guy
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LapisLazuli
06/08/17 11:43:02 AM
#490:


Please stop giving him the satisfaction.

You're all fully aware that he doesn't actually care.
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charmander6000
06/08/17 11:44:12 AM
#491:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
Can you accept a blowjob from a dude and not be gay?


I recently had a long discussion about this with a bunch of people (along with accepting cunnilingus for women) there were a lot of opinions.
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DeathChicken
06/08/17 11:44:36 AM
#492:


If every skin color suddenly turned to an identical shade of green tomorrow, eye color would magically become a biological trait worthy of segmenting off huge swathes of the human race
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TheRock1525
06/08/17 11:44:44 AM
#493:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
There was debate about gay rights for decades

Is the idea of being gay complicated?

of course! it still is!


And you call us dense

You don't think that there is still discourse (academic and layman) about how/when/why people are homosexuals? (ie, is it genetic--and if so, how is the gene passed on; can it be nurtured and how young does this development occur?)

Why is this triggering you? I'm not trying to troll


The idea of being gay and the reasons why people are gay are massively different things.

And so is the idea of being trans vs the reasons why people are trans

My difficulty understanding trans issues stems around the reasons why people are trans (ie, do these people suffer from a mental illness like body dysmorphia?).


Yeah but JaKyL very much said you had trouble understanding BEING trans, which is pretty straight forward.
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Kenri
06/08/17 11:46:03 AM
#494:


http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/middleeast/iran-attack-update/index.html

Zarif was responding to President Trump's statement following the bombings that said, "We grieve and pray for the innocent victims of the terrorist attacks in Iran, and for the Iranian people who are going through such challenging times."

It then added, "We underscore that states that sponsor terrorism risk falling victim to the evil they promote."


Donald Trump accidentally makes a very salient point about why we have terrorist attacks in so many Western nations
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Kenri
06/08/17 11:47:25 AM
#495:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
My difficulty understanding trans issues stems around the reasons why people are trans (ie, do these people suffer from a mental illness like body dysmorphia?).

and the answer when you asked last time was "no? those two things have, like, nothing in common?" but here you are still
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Peace___Frog
06/08/17 11:50:22 AM
#496:


Kenri posted...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/middleeast/iran-attack-update/index.html

Zarif was responding to President Trump's statement following the bombings that said, "We grieve and pray for the innocent victims of the terrorist attacks in Iran, and for the Iranian people who are going through such challenging times."

It then added, "We underscore that states that sponsor terrorism risk falling victim to the evil they promote."


Donald Trump accidentally makes a very salient point about why we have terrorist attacks in so many Western nations

Oh shit, I hadn't thought about it that way.
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Surskit
06/08/17 12:09:16 PM
#497:


charmander6000 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Can you accept a blowjob from a dude and not be gay?


I recently had a long discussion about this with a bunch of people (along with accepting cunnilingus for women) there were a lot of opinions.

Same. I had a talk with some people arguing that you can be straight and like dick because dicks aren't male.
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Nelson_Mandela
06/08/17 12:10:18 PM
#498:


Surskit posted...
charmander6000 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Can you accept a blowjob from a dude and not be gay?


I recently had a long discussion about this with a bunch of people (along with accepting cunnilingus for women) there were a lot of opinions.

Same. I had a talk with some people arguing that you can be straight and like dick because dicks aren't male.

ThisIsWhyYouLost! ;)
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Kenri
06/08/17 12:17:21 PM
#499:


in like the 1920s it was fairly common opinion that you could fuck a guy and not be gay as long as you were the penetrative partner

but it was also weird because guys who took it from "straight" guys were sort of treated as like a third gender in the whole equation. we'd probably question if they were trans, these days.

anyway this is why when a dumb homophobe longs for the past, they mean a very specific slice of the 1950s curated by their own imagination and not, like, any random part of the past that's still super gay
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Mr Lasastryke
06/08/17 12:17:32 PM
#500:


pence is dense
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