Current Events > Political futures market now has Trump impeachment odds at 18% for 2017

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The Admiral
05/31/17 2:50:00 PM
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https://www.predictit.org/Contract/5470#data

This is also pre-Comey testifying.
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PrinceDBF
05/31/17 2:50:27 PM
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The Admiral posted...
This is also pre-covfefe .

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Nomadic View
05/31/17 2:51:36 PM
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Until something more substantial than somewhere someone may have heard something then said that something to someone who may have said something to washpo, there will be no impeachment.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/31/17 2:52:32 PM
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Bovada has him less than 50% on completing a full term.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/31/17 2:58:02 PM
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I though Luldmiral hated sites like these

Or is that only when they post information that says the odds are against cuckservatives?
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The Admiral
05/31/17 3:00:15 PM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
I though Luldmiral hated sites like these


Sites like what?
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Giant_Aspirin
05/31/17 3:07:08 PM
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i've never heard of that site before. how do they make these predictions? i don't understand how someone can predict something like this. it's not like you can poll potential voters or anything. so unless they somehow have insight into the actual investigation, i fail to see how they can make any sort of 'prediction' on this?

or is it more like Vegas betting where the odds are largely calculated based on how people are betting?
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J E S U S
05/31/17 3:11:07 PM
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What's the odds of Hillary still having a path to the presidency?
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Ampelas
05/31/17 3:12:27 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
or is it more like Vegas betting where the odds are largely calculated based on how people are betting?

I'm guessing this.
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Doom_Art
05/31/17 3:13:54 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Until something more substantial than somewhere someone may have heard something then said that something to someone who may have said something to washpo, there will be no impeachment.

I think you're playing it down a bit.
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ProtoManSPx
05/31/17 3:16:38 PM
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I heard Trump was/is trying to get himself impeached.
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Ampelas
05/31/17 3:17:53 PM
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The Admiral posted...
This is also pre-Comey testifying.

Will be interesting to see how that number rises once Comey actually testifies that Trump did in fact ask him to end the investigation.
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lightwarrior78
05/31/17 3:22:16 PM
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After next to no one thought he'd become president, I doubt the accuracy of any impeachment odds.
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copout
05/31/17 3:26:16 PM
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The Republicans will never impeach Trump. It would turn their base against them.
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The Admiral
05/31/17 3:30:19 PM
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Went up to 19% since I made this post.
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Giant_Aspirin
05/31/17 3:31:15 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i've never heard of that site before. how do they make these predictions? i don't understand how someone can predict something like this. it's not like you can poll potential voters or anything. so unless they somehow have insight into the actual investigation, i fail to see how they can make any sort of 'prediction' on this?

or is it more like Vegas betting where the odds are largely calculated based on how people are betting?

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TheVipaGTS
05/31/17 3:31:53 PM
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But at least the LIBERALS got got!
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SquantoZ
05/31/17 3:31:54 PM
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PrinceDBF posted...
The Admiral posted...
This is also pre-covfefe .

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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/31/17 3:35:11 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
I though Luldmiral hated sites like these


Sites like what?


Sites like these
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Giant_Aspirin
05/31/17 3:36:30 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
or is it more like Vegas betting where the odds are largely calculated based on how people are betting?

I'm guessing this.


yup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PredictIt#How_it_works

this is completely non-scientific
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bretonftw
05/31/17 3:41:03 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Until something more substantial than somewhere someone may have heard something then said that something to someone who may have said something to washpo, there will be no impeachment.


They have Kislyav reporting on Kushner organizing a back-channel. It's over.
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The Admiral
05/31/17 3:42:03 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Ampelas posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
or is it more like Vegas betting where the odds are largely calculated based on how people are betting?

I'm guessing this.


yup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PredictIt#How_it_works

this is completely non-scientific


The financial markets are non-scientific also. These markets actually do a fairly good job of determining probabilities for binary events.
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MJ_Max
05/31/17 3:42:50 PM
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At 19% now
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ThePrinceFish
05/31/17 3:42:59 PM
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lmao all the prophets on CE should dump their savings into this and make a killing since they are so super sure that impeachment is inevitable.
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JSancton
05/31/17 3:44:26 PM
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Is this the same stats people used to determine him losing the election? People have no right to use statistics sometimes
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Polycosm
05/31/17 3:55:14 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
lmao all the prophets on CE should dump their savings into this and make a killing since they are so super sure that impeachment is inevitable.

Impeachment is inevitable. All signs point to a Democrat blowout in the 2018 midterm. They will easily gain control of the House and subsequently will impeach the President.

Whether or not Trump is ultimately removed from office will depend on Republicans in the Senate.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/31/17 3:55:30 PM
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JSancton posted...
Is this the same stats people used to determine him losing the election? People have no right to use statistics sometimes


Even if his chances were only 20%, that's still good odds to win.
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John_Galt
05/31/17 3:58:47 PM
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Polycosm posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
lmao all the prophets on CE should dump their savings into this and make a killing since they are so super sure that impeachment is inevitable.
All signs point to a Democrat blowout in the 2018 midterm. They will easily gain control of the House.

Lol
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The Admiral
05/31/17 4:02:17 PM
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JSancton posted...
Is this the same stats people used to determine him losing the election? People have no right to use statistics sometimes


The futures market held pretty consistent that Trump had about a 1/3 chance of winning, even when garbage sites like 538 and HuffPo said his chances were 5% and 1%, respectively.
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Giant_Aspirin
05/31/17 4:04:39 PM
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The Admiral posted...
JSancton posted...
Is this the same stats people used to determine him losing the election? People have no right to use statistics sometimes


The futures market held pretty consistent that Trump had about a 1/3 chance of winning, even when garbage sites like 538 and HuffPo said his chances were 5% and 1%, respectively.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

28.6%, actually (which is close to 1/3, mind you). where in the world did you get 5% from?
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The Admiral
05/31/17 4:11:05 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

28.6%, actually (which is close to 1/3, mind you). where in the world did you get 5% from?


That was their futurecast prediction in late August.
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Doom_Art
05/31/17 5:19:56 PM
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The Admiral posted...
even when garbage sites like 538

>garbage
>538

pick one

The Admiral posted...
That was their futurecast prediction in late August.

It's almost as though the dynamic of the election changed over the next several months
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Iodine
05/31/17 5:22:27 PM
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I would put it lower than that. The only way the GOP led congress impeaches Trump is if he has a Sandusky-like scandal.
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The Admiral
05/31/17 5:26:13 PM
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Iodine posted...
I would put it lower than that. The only way the GOP led congress impeaches Trump is if he has a Sandusky-like scandal.


Or if they think Trump is hurting their chances in 2018 and 2020 too severely. If Trump goes, the ticket is likely Pence/Ryan, with Ryan potentially being the presidential nominee in 2020. If that's a significantly stronger ticket, the Republicans might be on board with impeachment.
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EverDownward
05/31/17 5:26:39 PM
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>using polls and percentages when every Trump supporter was condemning them prior to being elected
Even I voted for Trump, but come the fuck on, now.
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Doom_Art
05/31/17 5:33:17 PM
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Iodine posted...
I would put it lower than that. The only way the GOP led congress impeaches Trump is if he has a Sandusky-like scandal.

That's the rule for the GOP

Only way they get taken down is if they're caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

The Admiral posted...
Or if they think Trump is hurting their chances in 2018 and 2020 too severely. If Trump goes, the ticket is likely Pence/Ryan, with Ryan potentially being the presidential nominee in 2020. If that's a significantly stronger ticket, the Republicans might be on board with impeachment.

If he keeps this shit up then it's not going to matter if he's impeached or not. He will be facing a primary challenge in 2020

My logic there is no matter how unorthodox he may be, the GOP sticks with him in the hope that he can mobilize his base for them and will rubber stamp what they like

There's been none of that so far and there's no indication that this will change.

So their options in 2020 are either they stick with Trump, Washington stays dead, their agenda is stalled another 4 years, the left is further enraged/mobilized against them. Or a genuine Republican can at least toss out a hail mary to try to get a legitimate working GOP administration.
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Nomadic View
05/31/17 7:33:48 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Until something more substantial than somewhere someone may have heard something then said that something to someone who may have said something to washpo, there will be no impeachment.

I think you're playing it down a bit.


Anonymous sources are ok to break a story, however after a few weeks real evidence needs to come forward if they plan on spending the majority of their resources shouting this story.

It's fine with me if this is the tactic they're using, it'll fizzle out and their credibility will only further diminish.
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