Current Events > Wrestling is a real sport

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It's still real to TC, dammit!
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People seem to misunderstand what people are saying about wrestling. Not it's not a sport in the sense that it is a competition. It is, however, real human beings doing really dangerous stunts as a sort of weird combo of performance art and athletics. Like professional stuntmen/women.

lmao

It's literally the most pathetic excuse for "sports" entertainment on the planet. It's shitty dialog comparable to a soap opera for men, with fake fighting and big, juiced up sweaty man children acting out. It's the equivalent of a syfy original film that had a crossover with a lifetime original.

It blows my mind, seriously, how adults not only watch it, but pay for the events on PPV.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

It blows my mind, seriously, how adults not only watch it, but pay for the events on PPV.

It really shouldn't. I used to watch wrestling specifically because it was so silly. There is a certain charm to the simplicity of it. It's the same reason I love old B-movies. On top of that, some of the stunts are actually really impressive to watch.

I assume you are talking about the minority that takes to way too seriously, though.

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

It blows my mind, seriously, how adults not only watch it, but pay for the events on PPV.

It really shouldn't. I used to watch wrestling specifically because it was so silly. There is a certain charm to the simplicity of it. It's the same reason I love old B-movies. On top of that, some of the stunts are actually really impressive to watch.

I assume you are talking about the minority that takes to way too seriously, though.

I definitely am, I have a couple friends that will go at each other's throats like they are entirely ignorant to the fact that the result is predetermined before the event even takes place.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

It blows my mind, seriously, how adults not only watch it, but pay for the events on PPV.

It really shouldn't. I used to watch wrestling specifically because it was so silly. There is a certain charm to the simplicity of it. It's the same reason I love old B-movies. On top of that, some of the stunts are actually really impressive to watch.

I assume you are talking about the minority that takes to way too seriously, though.

I definitely am, I have a couple friends that will go at each other's throats like they are entirely ignorant to the fact that the result is predetermined before the event even takes place.

It does become a sort of guessing game though, at least for me, where I try to determine who is going to be chosen to win and what that means for the (admittedly simplistic) narrative. I don't think I'm alone in that either, since I frequently see match outcomes leading directly to accurate theories about who is going to show up/return/fight next/what sort of match is going to be set up/etc.

I never understood why it isn't competitive. Olympic wrestling is entertaining, UFC is entertaining, Boxing is entertaining. Why not let these hulking warriors actually wrestle in the ring and really determine a winner after a hard fought battle of skill and strength?

I've always felt like it's a missed opportunity.
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Fun fact: One of the "snake charmers" in TC's gif (which is from like 2011 or something) is currently the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I never understood why it isn't competitive. Olympic wrestling is entertaining, UFC is entertaining, Boxing is entertaining. Why not let these hulking warriors actually wrestle in the ring and really determine a winner after a hard fought battle of skill and strength?

I've always felt like it's a missed opportunity.

Because the vast majority of the moves they use require both participants to actually succeed. There is a handful of legitimate wrestling moves that they use, and it's not nearly as flashy or theatrical to watch.

Interestingly enough, they did try something like that in the 90's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWF_Brawl_for_All) but it was an absolute disaster as the body builder's actual strength was deceptive and none of them actually knew how to box, resulting in injuries and a clusterfuck of a final round.

MabusIncarnate posted...

I never understood why it isn't competitive. Olympic wrestling is entertaining, UFC is entertaining, Boxing is entertaining. Why not let these hulking warriors actually wrestle in the ring and really determine a winner after a hard fought battle of skill and strength?

I've always felt like it's a missed opportunity.

Nobody on earth watches amateur wrestling. So much so that it was a candidate for the chopping block at the Olympics, where you think it'd have enough historical significance to be a guaranteed sport
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Stealing from reddit's front page, eh?
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Sinroth posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

I never understood why it isn't competitive. Olympic wrestling is entertaining, UFC is entertaining, Boxing is entertaining. Why not let these hulking warriors actually wrestle in the ring and really determine a winner after a hard fought battle of skill and strength?

I've always felt like it's a missed opportunity.

Nobody on earth watches amateur wrestling. So much so that it was a candidate for the chopping block at the Olympics, where you think it'd have enough historical significance to be a guaranteed sport

So faking it is the best option? I guess so considering play fighting gets ratings on television.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Sinroth posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

I never understood why it isn't competitive. Olympic wrestling is entertaining, UFC is entertaining, Boxing is entertaining. Why not let these hulking warriors actually wrestle in the ring and really determine a winner after a hard fought battle of skill and strength?

I've always felt like it's a missed opportunity.

Nobody on earth watches amateur wrestling. So much so that it was a candidate for the chopping block at the Olympics, where you think it'd have enough historical significance to be a guaranteed sport

So faking it is the best option? I guess so considering play fighting gets ratings on television.

Pretty much. A big part is the drama that goes on backstage and if it was real they'd have to plan two different storylines which would cost more money/time

Otherwise they would just be like actual wrestling and as the other guy said no one gives a shit about that >_>

MabusIncarnate posted...

Sinroth posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

I never understood why it isn't competitive. Olympic wrestling is entertaining, UFC is entertaining, Boxing is entertaining. Why not let these hulking warriors actually wrestle in the ring and really determine a winner after a hard fought battle of skill and strength?

I've always felt like it's a missed opportunity.

Nobody on earth watches amateur wrestling. So much so that it was a candidate for the chopping block at the Olympics, where you think it'd have enough historical significance to be a guaranteed sport

So faking it is the best option? I guess so considering play fighting gets ratings on television.

Fake is a deceptive way to describe it. Like I said, it's heavily coordinated. choreographed and practiced stunts with a oversight body mandating the narrative. It's an open secret that it's not real (the vast majority of performers nowadays are very tongue in cheek about it).

Calwings posted...

Fun fact: One of the "snake charmers" in TC's gif (which is from like 2011 or something) is currently the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.

Cant

Hinder

The Jinder
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Wrestling isn't fake. It's scripted. The bumps they take are legitimate and they're on the road like 2/3 of the year.
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It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.
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The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

It's a haven for chicken shits who won't get in a real arena with people who can actually fight and wrestle.
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FOR WRASSLlN'!
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MabusIncarnate posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

It's a haven for chicken shits who won't get in a real arena with people who can actually fight and wrestle.

Honestly, I understand why you don't like it, but you should at least understand why some of us do.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of WWE anymore, and I much prefer Lucha Underground because it doesn't pretend to be real very often. It's actually the embracing of a fictional narrative that makes it so much more fun. The more realistic it gets, the less fun it is.

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

It's a haven for chicken shits who won't get in a real arena with people who can actually fight and wrestle.

Honestly, I understand why you don't like it, but you should at least understand why some of us do.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of WWE anymore, and I much prefer Lucha Underground because it doesn't pretend to be real very often. It's actually the embracing of a fictional narrative that makes it so much more fun. The more realistic it gets, the less fun it is.

It's probably because I enjoy, and respect, the UFC and MMA. I'm also a fan of the NHL, and both sports represent true athletes who work hard and fight for the competition, give up their heart and their bodies for the sake of the sport, where pro wrestlers inject shit into their arms and act out scripts.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

Sort of like...an action TV show? Minus the bullshit about "steroids" numbing out the actors. There've been performers addicted to painkillers, though. It's painful work even when the punches are pulled and the actors work together to sell the moves as more injurious than they are. Accidents happen, and even a properly-performed spot still hurts.

You should probably talk with some people in that industry, and learn more, before spouting off. It's very clear that you don't know enough about the subject.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

It's a haven for chicken shits who won't get in a real arena with people who can actually fight and wrestle.

Honestly, I understand why you don't like it, but you should at least understand why some of us do.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of WWE anymore, and I much prefer Lucha Underground because it doesn't pretend to be real very often. It's actually the embracing of a fictional narrative that makes it so much more fun. The more realistic it gets, the less fun it is.

It's probably because I enjoy, and respect, the UFC and MMA. I'm also a fan of the NHL, and both sports represent true athletes who work hard and fight for the competition, give up their heart and their bodies for the sake of the sport, where pro wrestlers inject shit into their arms and act out scripts.

I agree and am also a huge NHL fan (who you cheer for?), but you've just got to stop grouping wrestling in with those sports. It does actually take a remarkable amount of athleticism do much of what they do, and the injuries they face are real (and incredibly dangerous), but it's not a sport in the sense that it is a competition.

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

It's a haven for chicken shits who won't get in a real arena with people who can actually fight and wrestle.

Honestly, I understand why you don't like it, but you should at least understand why some of us do.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of WWE anymore, and I much prefer Lucha Underground because it doesn't pretend to be real very often. It's actually the embracing of a fictional narrative that makes it so much more fun. The more realistic it gets, the less fun it is.

It's probably because I enjoy, and respect, the UFC and MMA. I'm also a fan of the NHL, and both sports represent true athletes who work hard and fight for the competition, give up their heart and their bodies for the sake of the sport, where pro wrestlers inject shit into their arms and act out scripts.

I agree and am also a huge NHL fan (who you cheer for?), but you've just got to stop grouping wrestling in with those sports. It does actually take a remarkable amount of athleticism do much of what they do, and the injuries they face are real (and incredibly dangerous), but it's not a sport in the sense that it is a competition.

Detroit fan, and I get that. Maybe i'm just a hardcore fan of competitive sports and enjoy the odds and thrill of not knowing.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

It's as fake as any other action TV show, but the actors are also the stuntmen, and there's no retakes.

And the floor of the ring is designed to absorb impact and the objects used are pre-broken and cause little to no impact on the "wrestlers" that use them. They are on so many steroids in time of the event that they feel next to nothing.

It's a haven for chicken shits who won't get in a real arena with people who can actually fight and wrestle.

Honestly, I understand why you don't like it, but you should at least understand why some of us do.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of WWE anymore, and I much prefer Lucha Underground because it doesn't pretend to be real very often. It's actually the embracing of a fictional narrative that makes it so much more fun. The more realistic it gets, the less fun it is.

It's probably because I enjoy, and respect, the UFC and MMA. I'm also a fan of the NHL, and both sports represent true athletes who work hard and fight for the competition, give up their heart and their bodies for the sake of the sport, where pro wrestlers inject shit into their arms and act out scripts.

I agree and am also a huge NHL fan (who you cheer for?), but you've just got to stop grouping wrestling in with those sports. It does actually take a remarkable amount of athleticism do much of what they do, and the injuries they face are real (and incredibly dangerous), but it's not a sport in the sense that it is a competition.

Detroit fan, and I get that. Maybe i'm just a hardcore fan of competitive sports and enjoy the odds and thrill of not knowing.

Well that explains why you are wrong, your a Detroit fan. ;P JK I get what you are saying.

Someone had their GF stolen by a pro wrestler.

Not everyone does steroids and the WWE Wellness Policy is better than it used to be. Even the golden boy Roman Reigns got hit with a suspension. Orton has gotten it. Jeff Hardy has multiple times and he's arguably the biggest babyface in the past 10 years.

Stay salty though. Sure, there's things put in place to Lee the wrestlers safe, but the matches aren't all choreographed and some of the props are real. The chairs are for sure. The bumps they take are real.
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You really can't say anyone in the WWE now is on steroids, minus Jinder Mahal and probably a few others. I think steroid usage was more prevalent in the UFC until the USDA stepped in.

It's fun to watch when done well but lately the quality has been really shaky and I'm losing interest. I tried to watch RAW and turned it off after the horrible Alexa Bless segment, and only watched that because shes hot.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Someone had their GF stolen by a pro wrestler.

Not everyone does steroids and the WWE Wellness Policy is better than it used to be. Even the golden boy Roman Reigns got hit with a suspension. Orton has gotten it. Jeff Hardy has multiple times and he's arguably the biggest babyface in the past 10 years.

Stay salty though. Sure, there's things put in place to Lee the wrestlers safe, but the matches aren't all choreographed and some of the props are real. The chairs are for sure. The bumps they take are real.

Not salty at all, just expressing my lack of interest and why it's there. I don't like plays either which are essentially the same thing minus the fighting.

Public awareness of the efficiency in drug testing, in all pro sports in addition to wrestling, are entirely inaccurate to the public. There's literally photos of Alex Ovechkin snorting blow on the internet and he's never been suspended once for anything drug related. "Policies" are put on display like this to the public to tighten up the image, yet is incredibly irrelevant to what they are doing in real life. Don't be so naive to think that "strict" policies are in effect as they present them to us.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Someone had their GF stolen by a pro wrestler.

Not everyone does steroids and the WWE Wellness Policy is better than it used to be. Even the golden boy Roman Reigns got hit with a suspension. Orton has gotten it. Jeff Hardy has multiple times and he's arguably the biggest babyface in the past 10 years.

Stay salty though. Sure, there's things put in place to Lee the wrestlers safe, but the matches aren't all choreographed and some of the props are real. The chairs are for sure. The bumps they take are real.

Not salty at all, just expressing my lack of interest and why it's there. I don't like plays either which are essentially the same thing minus the fighting.

Public awareness of the efficiency in drug testing, in all pro sports in addition to wrestling, are entirely inaccurate to the public. There's literally photos of Alex Ovechkin snorting blow on the internet and he's never been suspended once for anything drug related. "Policies" are put on display like this to the public to tighten up the image, yet is incredibly irrelevant to what they are doing in real life. Don't be so naive to think that "strict" policies are in effect as they present them to us.

Vince's literal golden child got suspended for a month because of PEDs.

So again; stop talking about things you literally know nothing about.
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I actually read something about how some matches if not part of a storyline/rivalry are sometimes real competitions, most main events are also real matches too[again based off on what I read]. I also haven't watched WWE religiously since 2012.