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EffectAndCause
05/28/17 6:33:35 PM
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Damn_Underscore
05/28/17 7:18:46 PM
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lol at Craig movies being outside the Bottom 5

IMO it's The Spy Who Loved Me, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, For Your Eyes Only, Live And Let Die, and You Only Live Twice
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LeadPipeCinche
05/28/17 7:30:40 PM
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Considering Royale is thought of as 1 of the top bond movies ever, welcome to showing us you have poor taste.
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Skye Reynolds
05/28/17 7:32:06 PM
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Yeah, I'd say that's pretty accurate.
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Skye Reynolds
05/28/17 7:35:50 PM
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LeadPipeCinche posted...
Considering Royale is thought of as 1 of the top bond movies ever, welcome to showing us you have poor taste.


I have a love/hate relationship with that film. It's one of the the top three for quality, but it goes absolutely out of its way to say, "I'm not James Bond and I hate you for thinking I am." It stars a classless, edgy antihero and gives the middle finger to as many of the Bond tropes as they possibly could have.
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super_clout
05/28/17 7:40:07 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
LeadPipeCinche posted...
Considering Royale is thought of as 1 of the top bond movies ever, welcome to showing us you have poor taste.


I have a love/hate relationship with that film. It's one of the the top three for quality, but it goes absolutely out of its way to say, "I'm not James Bond and I hate you for thinking I am." It stars a classless, edgy antihero and gives the middle finger to as many of the Bond tropes as they possibly could have.

and that's what made the film soo good. it was him becoming a 00
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Shotgunnova
05/28/17 7:40:59 PM
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A list that leaves off Spy Who Loved Me isn't worth reading.
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Skye Reynolds
05/28/17 7:45:48 PM
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super_clout posted...
and that's what made the film soo good. it was him becoming a 00


Except it wasn't. That was a lie told by marketing.

Quantum of Solace showed no character growth and made it clear that they intended to leave him indefinitely as he was in the first film. It was only after that film's backlash that they had him acting like Bond for the first and only time in Skyfall. But then SPECTRE came along and he's right back to being the antihero who dodges sex, never gambles, and acts like an edgy dick for no good reason.

And even if they had been in earnest, Bond never needed to be that character.
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GodofLegend
05/28/17 7:46:19 PM
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super_clout posted...
and that's what made the film soo good. it was him becoming a 00

It's also what made Spectre so meh(bad).
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Skye Reynolds
05/28/17 7:49:01 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
A list that leaves off Spy Who Loved Me isn't worth reading.


I would have that as one of my top five, but Stromberg is a dreadfully dull villain and that transforming car is just as bad as the invisible one from Die Another Day. It's still the top Bond movie to star the late and lamented Roger Moore.
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au_gold
05/28/17 7:50:08 PM
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Casino Royale, Skyfall, Goldfinger, Goldeneye, and The Spy Who Loved Me are top 5.
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Damn_Underscore
05/28/17 7:51:49 PM
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LeadPipeCinche posted...
Considering Royale is thought of as 1 of the top bond movies ever, welcome to showing us you have poor taste.


I don't think (all of) Craig's movies are necessarily bad movies, but if I wanted to watch a Bond movie Craig's movies would be on the very bottom of the list. they are Jason Bourne movies, not Bond movies
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super_clout
05/28/17 7:53:59 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
super_clout posted...
and that's what made the film soo good. it was him becoming a 00


Except it wasn't. That was a lie told by marketing.

Quantum of Solace showed no character growth and made it clear that they intended to leave him indefinitely as he was in the first film. It was only after that film's backlash that they had him acting like Bond for the first and only time in Skyfall. But then SPECTRE came along and he's right back to being the antihero who dodges sex, never gambles, and acts like an edgy dick for no good reason.

And even if they had been in earnest, Bond never needed to be that character.

goodness i wish quantum of solace was never made, that was a horrible follow up. and yes skyfall definitely had an old school bond feel and it was good. as for spectre i actually fell asleep in the theater. it's just casino royale was such a great film, maybe it would've been better had it been stand alone movie.
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super_clout
05/28/17 7:56:17 PM
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GodofLegend posted...
super_clout posted...
and that's what made the film soo good. it was him becoming a 00

It's also what made Spectre so meh(bad).

i'm gonna try and watch spectre again so i can actually see what made it so bad
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LeadPipeCinche
05/29/17 9:55:43 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
LeadPipeCinche posted...
Considering Royale is thought of as 1 of the top bond movies ever, welcome to showing us you have poor taste.


I don't think (all of) Craig's movies are necessarily bad movies, but if I wanted to watch a Bond movie Craig's movies would be on the very bottom of the list. they are Jason Bourne movies, not Bond movies




Have you ever watched a Bond movie before in your life?
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lilORANG
05/29/17 9:58:33 AM
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Casino Royale is the only good Bond movie
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Skye Reynolds
05/29/17 10:02:39 AM
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LeadPipeCinche posted...

Have you ever watched a Bond movie before in your life?
Early James Bond was Jason Bourne before Jason Bourne was Jason Bourne.


Jason Bourne is a classy British guy who gambles and sleeps around?
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CreekCo
05/29/17 10:04:52 AM
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QoS is the only Craig Bond film I like without reservation. It has pacing issues due to the writer's guild strike but the plot is rather grounded. To be more accurate, it's the closest Bond plot to real life (something similar actually happened irl). It's more of a political thriller than an action film tbh and I think people resented that.
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EffectAndCause
05/29/17 11:31:34 AM
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Spectre wasn't BAD, Skyfall was just a really hard act to follow. Coming off an amazing villain and emotional, well written story and new chapter for the franchise, Spectre felt more like a typical Bond film that had all the standard tropes.
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games_pot1
05/29/17 11:56:58 AM
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Is GoldenEye on there because of the video game? It was my first Bond
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EnterTheTekken
05/29/17 12:01:36 PM
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Goldeneye is a terrible movie if you watch it without the N64 game's blinders on.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
05/29/17 12:09:17 PM
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Goldfinger
Golden Eye
Casino Royale
Spy Who Loved me.

Then it gets weird from Russia with love, ohmss, license to kill and living day lights can all make an argument for top 5 depending on my mood.

Anyways Craig was the worst bond and his movies get worse as they go on.

CR >>>>>>>>>> QoS >>>>> Skyfall >>>>>>>>>>>>> Spectre
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Skye Reynolds
05/29/17 12:13:06 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Goldeneye is a terrible movie if you watch it without the N64 game's blinders on.


Nah. It was a good movie. But 006 would have been a bad villain had he been played by anybody but Sean Bean.

"James, I'm an evil you. But I pull this part off so well that nobody notices the lack of imagination employed."
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
05/29/17 12:14:48 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Spectre wasn't BAD, Skyfall was just a really hard act to follow. Coming off an amazing villain and emotional, well written story and new chapter for the franchise, Spectre felt more like a typical Bond film that had all the standard tropes.


Spectre is by far the worst Bond movie.

Skyfall is in the bottom half maybe bottom quarter and doesn't even feel like a bond movie.

EnterTheTekken posted...
Goldeneye is a terrible movie if you watch it without the N64 game's blinders on.


I never played the game. It's great and is universally picked as a top bond movie by everyone except you.
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LeadPipeCinche
05/29/17 1:36:21 PM
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^ @CJ ,

& Me.
I cant stand PB as Bond.



Skye Reynolds posted...
LeadPipeCinche posted...

Have you ever watched a Bond movie before in your life?
Early James Bond was Jason Bourne before Jason Bourne was Jason Bourne.


Jason Bourne is a classy British guy who gambles and sleeps around?



Talking about all the fighting & other action-packed super shit he does.
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:39:39 PM
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drop Goldeneye, add On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:41:30 PM
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Spectre was the most the James Bond-ish movie that Craig was in >_>

I really don't get the arguments about why it's so bad, aside from a few awkward scenes. Hell, the intro is even a direct follow-up to Skyfall.
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au_gold
05/29/17 1:56:44 PM
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Quantum of Solace is the worst Bond film by a long shot. Even as a standalone action movie it doesn't work. Bad writing, incomprehensibly edited action scenes, the worst Bond villain, the worst henchman, the worst Bond song, etc.

The only other competition for worst Bond movie are Diamonds Are Forever, View to a Kill, or Man With a Golden Gun, but GG had Christopher Lee, View had Christopher Walken, and they all felt like Bond movies.
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 2:23:07 PM
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Diamonds also had the GOAT Bond theme next to You Know My Name so there's a plus for it
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Skye Reynolds
05/29/17 2:25:36 PM
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LeadPipeCinche posted...
Talking about all the fighting & other action-packed super shit he does.


As great as the fight choreography was in From Russia With Love and Goldfinger, it's not what defined Bond. His personality did. And, yeah, the battle with Mr. Hinx is the best Bond fight since the 1970s. But it's still against Bond's character to be such a rugged and gritty individual. Bond has shown edge before. Oddly enough, Roger Moore had some of the darkest kills of the entire series like casually walking away after shooting Stromberg in the stomach and testicles, but the character was always classy.

Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton played Bond as a classy antihero. Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan played him as a classy hero. The one constant was that he was always classy. And I'd rather have weak fight scenes and remain true to the character than to define him entirely by how well he fights at the expense of throwing a half-century of accepted characterization out the window.
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CreekCo
05/29/17 2:45:20 PM
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games_pot1 posted...
Is GoldenEye on there because of the video game? It was my first Bond


It's arguably the best. Most long time fans normally have it in the top three conversation consistently. The video game defined the generation.
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ArtVandelay
05/29/17 2:59:36 PM
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Goldfinger
From Russia with Love
Goldeneye
Casino Royale

I can't pick a definitive 5th.

but good on you TC I agree 4/5
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Damn_Underscore
05/29/17 3:02:15 PM
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Goldeneye the movie is absolutely beloved because of the video game

I mean it is Brosnan's best movie, but if the video game didn't exist then no one would really care about it.
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ArtVandelay
05/29/17 3:03:03 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Goldeneye the movie is absolutely beloved because of the video game

I mean it is Brosnan's best movie, but if the video game didn't exist then no one would really care about it.

wrong. I hate the game with a passion but the movie is excellent
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TheRealDill2000
05/29/17 3:05:52 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Shotgunnova posted...
A list that leaves off Spy Who Loved Me isn't worth reading.


I would have that as one of my top five, but Stromberg is a dreadfully dull villain and that transforming car is just as bad as the invisible one from Die Another Day. It's still the top Bond movie to star the late and lamented Roger Moore.

Forgetting Octopussy??
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Damn_Underscore
05/29/17 3:10:13 PM
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ArtVandelay posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Goldeneye the movie is absolutely beloved because of the video game

I mean it is Brosnan's best movie, but if the video game didn't exist then no one would really care about it.

wrong. I hate the game with a passion but the movie is excellent


Well you're an exception then.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
05/29/17 3:40:18 PM
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ArtVandelay posted...
Goldfinger
From Russia with Love
Goldeneye
Casino Royale

I can't pick a definitive 5th.

but good on you TC I agree 4/5


2nd best list after mine.
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Skye Reynolds
05/29/17 4:20:28 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Forgetting Octopussy??


That one was fun, but a bit too silly for its own good. I still like it though.
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Distant_Rainbow
05/29/17 4:26:10 PM
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I could never understand why people love Skyfall so much. Personally it's the second-worst, only in front of Die Another Day.

At least DAD was so stupid it was actually entertaining if you turned most of your brain off while watching. No such luck for Skyfall. I remember actually getting angry at myself for wasting my time while forcing myself to finish it.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
05/29/17 4:30:20 PM
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I actually really enjoyed it the first time I saw skyfall. I think it makes for a decent stand alone movie but more and more it wasn't a bond movie and the less enjoyable it got and more felt forced and I just can't really watch it now.

Plus the guys plot sort of seems ridiculous with even half a thought put into it.
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EffectAndCause
05/29/17 4:53:01 PM
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I guess i'm alone in thinking Skyfall is the best Bond movie, I felt like it "legitimized" Bond in the way that The Dark Knight legitimized Batman, where it was a good movie in general, not just a good Bond or good Batman movie, it was a quality film.
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EnterTheTekken
05/29/17 4:55:47 PM
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Skyfall is great as a movie in that it nailed cinematography, music, scenery, editing, etc. It was like a really slick piece of film-making that featured James Bond.
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GodofLegend
05/29/17 5:09:32 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
I guess i'm alone in thinking Skyfall is the best Bond movie,

My problem with Skyfall was it started out interesting with a broken and old Bond....then forgets all about it. Couldn't convince anyone that Bond was an old man for more than 20 minutes.
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EffectAndCause
05/29/17 5:11:05 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Skyfall is great as a movie in that it nailed cinematography, music, scenery, editing, etc. It was like a really slick piece of film-making that featured James Bond.


This is kinda how I feel. It my not be a "true" Bond movie, but it's the best movie starring James Bond.
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