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Antifar
05/26/17 10:50:57 PM
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http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/26/witnesses-man-on-northeast-portland-max-train-cut-the-throats-of-two-men-who-tried-to-stop-anti-muslim-bullying-of-women-passengers/

A man riding the MAX in Northeast Portland fatally stabbed two passengers who tried to stop him from hurling racial and anti-Muslim insults at women on the train, witnesses tell WW's news partner KATU-TV.

The suspect is currently in Portland police custody. The stabbing occurred at about 4:30 this afternoon as the light-rail train pulled into the Hollywood Transit Center.

Details of the triple stabbing, which killed two men, are still emerging. But eyewitness reports to KATU and The Oregonian indicate it was an anti-immigrant hate crime.

KATU reports:

Witnesses told KATU’s Joe Douglass the stabbing suspect was hurling racial insults at two women with dark skin, one of whom was wearing a headdress. Two men who came to the woman’s defense had their throats slashed by the suspect, witnesses said.

Another witness says she saw two women who appeared to be of Middle Eastern-descent get on the train. At least one of them was wearing a headdress. The suspect was asking them questions when he got belligerent. When another bystander tried to calm him down, the man took out a knife and began stabbing people.

“He said, ‘Get off the bus, and get out of the country because you don’t pay taxes here,’ [he said he] doesn’t like Muslims, they’re criminals,” Evelin Hernandez said.

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ManSpread
05/26/17 10:53:19 PM
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"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder
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TrollSlayer11
05/26/17 10:55:03 PM
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Whoa. Killed for white knighting. Though I'm wondering how it went down. Two grown men should be able to take down a knife wielder if they're relatively same age and size and they see the knife. Then again only takes one good stab to put a person completely out of commission.

Sad.
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Antifar
05/26/17 10:55:33 PM
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ManSpread posted...


I don't disagree with your point, but it'd be nice if we could have a topic that doesn't descend into left v. right shit-throwing.
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tremain07
05/26/17 10:56:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
Details of the triple stabbing, which killed two men, are still emerging. But eyewitness reports to KATU and The Oregonian indicate it was an anti-immigrant hate crime.

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ModLogic
05/27/17 1:10:50 AM
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CowboyDan
05/27/17 1:25:11 AM
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For fucks sake
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Bloodychess
05/27/17 1:26:28 AM
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He can rot in jail
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:40:22 AM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
Whoa. Killed for white knighting. Though I'm wondering how it went down. Two grown men should be able to take down a knife wielder if they're relatively same age and size and they see the knife. Then again only takes one good stab to put a person completely out of commission.

Sad.


That's usually not how reality works
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ClockworkHare
05/27/17 6:11:56 AM
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Article says the victims were trying to calm the murderer down or tell him to knock off the hate speech. They might not have seen the knife in his possession at all until it was too late.

I'm shaken by this news as I have Muslim acquaintances in that area who likely still use the MAX as their daily commute.
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EffectAndCause
05/27/17 6:20:44 AM
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And people say anti-religion is more peaceful than religion.
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Antifar
05/27/17 8:36:38 AM
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Raikuro
05/27/17 9:05:17 AM
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EffectAndCause posted...
And people say anti-religion is more peaceful than religion.

He was harassing them for being foreigners, not specifically because of their religion.
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Twinmold
05/27/17 9:45:27 AM
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BillWardsPants posted...
Maybe they should have minded their own business.

You're a bad human being.
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bobaban
05/27/17 9:49:32 AM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
Whoa. Killed for white knighting. Though I'm wondering how it went down. Two grown men should be able to take down a knife wielder if they're relatively same age and size and they see the knife. Then again only takes one good stab to put a person completely out of commission.

Sad.


That's usually not how reality works


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Bluster
05/27/17 9:56:25 AM
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BillWardsPants posted...
Part and parcel of living in a big city.

Twinmold posted...
You're a bad human being.

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coolboy11
05/27/17 10:07:22 AM
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doesn't Portland (ironically) have a problem with White Supremacist gangs?
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Bluebomber182
05/27/17 10:11:16 AM
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what a pos. do the right thing and they get killed for it. this country is going to hell in a handbasket

@BillWardsPants posted...
Maybe they should have minded their own business.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU

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DumbQuestion
05/27/17 10:11:19 AM
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Twinmold posted...
BillWardsPants posted...
Maybe they should have minded their own business.

You're a bad human being.

Playing the hero got them killed. Rather be a bad human and still have my life.
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hortanz
05/27/17 10:27:10 AM
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when will radical anti religion terrorism stop
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Antifar
05/27/17 10:35:28 AM
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http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist
The man accused of the brutal hate crime slayings of two people at the Hollywood Transit Center on Friday afternoon is a known local white supremacist.
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Christian is a known right wing extremist and white supremacist. On April 29, Christian showed up to the right-wing "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters. The bat was quickly confiscated by Portland police officers. He ranted how he was a nihilist. He'd soon yelled racial slurs ("fuck all you n*****s") and gave the Nazi salute throughout the day. He yelled "Hail Vinland" throughout the day.

A few Portland police officers on April 29 appeared to be familiar with Christian, but not threatened by him. They claimed he had a head injury and was mentally ill.

https://media1.fdncms.com/portmerc/imager/u/large/19041638/1495887448-jeremy_christian.jpg
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muchdran
05/27/17 10:43:53 AM
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coolboy11 posted...
doesn't Portland (ironically) have a problem with White Supremacist gangs?

In the past. Portland is weird. East Portland crazy white people, North Portland has a gang problem somebody's always getting shot.

West Portland is the only good side.
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teepan95
05/27/17 10:44:38 AM
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Antifar posted...
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist
The man accused of the brutal hate crime slayings of two people at the Hollywood Transit Center on Friday afternoon is a known local white supremacist.
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Christian is a known right wing extremist and white supremacist. On April 29, Christian showed up to the right-wing "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters. The bat was quickly confiscated by Portland police officers. He ranted how he was a nihilist. He'd soon yelled racial slurs ("fuck all you n*****s") and gave the Nazi salute throughout the day. He yelled "Hail Vinland" throughout the day.

A few Portland police officers on April 29 appeared to be familiar with Christian, but not threatened by him. They claimed he had a head injury and was mentally ill.

https://media1.fdncms.com/portmerc/imager/u/large/19041638/1495887448-jeremy_christian.jpg

And there it is.
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EbonTitanium
05/27/17 10:44:41 AM
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If he was willing to kill, would he had attacked the women.
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DifferentialEquation
05/27/17 10:53:31 AM
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ManSpread posted...
"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder


What ever this guy's political affiliation, no one on the right will defend him. He should be given the death penalty or be locked up for the rest of his life.

Meanwhile, leftists use whatever excuses they can to defend the violence and destruction caused by the extremists on their side.
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Ivynn
05/27/17 10:58:45 AM
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DumbQuestion posted...
Twinmold posted...
BillWardsPants posted...
Maybe they should have minded their own business.

You're a bad human being.

Playing the hero got them killed. Rather be a bad human and still have my life.


I think the problem is that he chose to attack the victims rather than, you know, the killer.
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E32005
05/27/17 10:59:45 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
He can rot in jail

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CW_McGraw
05/27/17 11:20:35 AM
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coolboy11 posted...
doesn't Portland (ironically) have a problem with White Supremacist gangs?

Portland is one of the most historically bigoted cities in the country. It's got the largest percentage of white people out of any large city in the US for a reason. They systematically kicked black people out before the Civil Rights Movement and the gentrified the shit out of black parts of towns during the 80s and 90s.
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coolboy11
05/27/17 1:07:00 PM
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CW_McGraw posted...
coolboy11 posted...
doesn't Portland (ironically) have a problem with White Supremacist gangs?

Portland is one of the most historically bigoted cities in the country. It's got the largest percentage of white people out of any large city in the US for a reason. They systematically kicked black people out before the Civil Rights Movement and the gentrified the shit out of black parts of towns during the 80s and 90s.

the West Coast has a weird blend of some the most bluish subsections of the country and yet some of the most active White Supremacist organizations in the Republic
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Ammonitida
05/28/17 12:33:23 PM
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Updates

1. He voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary and hated Donald Trump. Contrary to claims made by Buzzfeed, he never supported Trump.

2. He is not a white supremacist or white nationalist as falsely claimed by the left-wing media (for example, he frequently liked and shared memes that were made to poke fun at white racists and he supported BLM).

3. The video of him at a Trump rally giving Nazi salutes was a "psyop" intended to make Trump supporters look like Nazis. He confirmed this on his facebook page. These Trump voters kicked him out.

4. One of the victims (the blond dude) who came to the defense of these Muslim women was himself a Trump voting Republican.
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QuantamLeap
05/28/17 12:45:10 PM
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alexander37
05/28/17 7:04:04 PM
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RIP Man Stabs and the two men shot up to 97 kills
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Mist_Turnips
05/28/17 7:14:53 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Updates

1. He voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary and hated Donald Trump. Contrary to claims made by Buzzfeed, he never supported Trump.

2. He is not a white supremacist or white nationalist as falsely claimed by the left-wing media (for example, he frequently liked and shared memes that were made to poke fun at white racists and he supported BLM).

3. The video of him at a Trump rally giving Nazi salutes was a "psyop" intended to make Trump supporters look like Nazis. He confirmed this on his facebook page. These Trump voters kicked him out.

4. One of the victims (the blond dude) who came to the defense of these Muslim women was himself a Trump voting Republican.

So many hopes and preconceived notions of liberals, crushed in one post.
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Bluebomber182
05/28/17 7:38:47 PM
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@Ammonitida

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA2DWnkV0AApN5X.jpg

i dunno but maybe the guy was just totally batshit? his views were all over the fucking place
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mario2000
05/28/17 7:56:26 PM
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ManSpread posted...
"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder

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Butterfiles
05/28/17 9:10:42 PM
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fucking crazy, apparently a bunch of my friends grew up with one of the two people who were killed :(
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Ammonitida
05/28/17 10:30:39 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
@Ammonitida

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA2DWnkV0AApN5X.jpg

i dunno but maybe the guy was just totally batshit? his views were all over the fucking place


He hated monotheism so much that he wanted to exterminate all monotheists (at the time he wrote that at least). He was a pantheist worshiper of Pagan Gods like Odin (Norse) and Kali (Hindu). Yes, he was even crazier than your average religious zealot. But that quote is not an expression of support for Nazism in the white supremacist sense.
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MakoReizei
05/28/17 10:39:34 PM
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mario2000 posted...
ManSpread posted...
"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder

except this wasn't right wing violence
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ManSpread
05/28/17 10:42:19 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Leftists caring more about these victims than the kids blown up at Manchester tells you everything you need to know about the left-right paradigm. You're either against murdering of innocents or you aren't; playing favorites based on partisan BS is pathetic.

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AlternativeFAQS
05/28/17 10:42:48 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
mario2000 posted...
ManSpread posted...
"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder

except this wasn't right wing violence



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Ammonitida
05/28/17 10:43:39 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
mario2000 posted...
ManSpread posted...
"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder

except this wasn't right wing violence


This guy's beliefs do not fit any narrative. He was just insane. I've read he suffered a head injury and has brain damage. Not confirmed yet.
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teepan95
05/29/17 12:28:28 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
MakoReizei posted...
mario2000 posted...
ManSpread posted...
"Leftist" violence: destroyed property and sucker punches
Right wing violence: literally murder

except this wasn't right wing violence


This guy's beliefs do not fit any narrative. He was just insane. I've read he suffered a head injury and has brain damage. Not confirmed yet.

Funny how that happens, isn't it?
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Gamenamebully
05/30/17 9:27:13 PM
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How much do you want to bet that there are people defending the stabber because "Free speech" and "Anti Muslim speeches"?
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E32005
05/30/17 9:28:23 PM
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coolboy11 posted...
CW_McGraw posted...
coolboy11 posted...
doesn't Portland (ironically) have a problem with White Supremacist gangs?

Portland is one of the most historically bigoted cities in the country. It's got the largest percentage of white people out of any large city in the US for a reason. They systematically kicked black people out before the Civil Rights Movement and the gentrified the shit out of black parts of towns during the 80s and 90s.

the West Coast has a weird blend of some the most bluish subsections of the country and yet some of the most active White Supremacist organizations in the Republic

here in Cali most of the central valley is very, hard-core Red and there are some WP groups that operate.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/30/17 10:27:53 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Bluebomber182 posted...
@Ammonitida

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA2DWnkV0AApN5X.jpg

i dunno but maybe the guy was just totally batshit? his views were all over the fucking place


He hated monotheism so much that he wanted to exterminate all monotheists (at the time he wrote that at least). He was a pantheist worshiper of Pagan Gods like Odin (Norse) and Kali (Hindu). Yes, he was even crazier than your average religious zealot. But that quote is not an expression of support for Nazism in the white supremacist sense.


He didn't really fit in any one category. Even though he supported stein and Bernie it wouldn't be fair to say he is a liberal. That said it is hilarious considering what Jill Stein said and now the Portland mayor is using this false narrative to literally take away the first amendment
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MARKINGRAM22
05/30/17 10:31:57 PM
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Gamenamebully posted...
How much do you want to bet that there are people defending the stabber because "Free speech" and "Anti Muslim speeches"?


I mean all my money considering there is always a lunatic fringe no matter how small that you can use as a strawman for a large group. You should feel bad for this lunatic hack post. people on either side who think like this usually make up the lunatics on both sides.
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Nomadic View
05/30/17 11:57:47 PM
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XD @ the backpeddling after it comes out this asshole is a liberal.
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