Current Events > MARVEL Compares Captain America + Hydra to Donald Trump

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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 1:15:54 PM
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http://screenrant.com/captain-america-hydra-fake-news/

Slight SPOILERS I guess for those of you out of the loop, but I'm referring to the Captain America after he's revealed to be working for Hydra.

He (Captain America) inacted a Musli- I mean Inhumans Ban, and now he's talking about how he'll take to Twitter and call out the media who are the true enemy with their "Fake News"

See, this is why DC comics are currently kicking Marvel's ass. Rebirth is good shit that can cover controversial material without saying "HEY, LIKE US BECAUSE WE SUPPORT BLACK LIVES MATTER AND HATE TRUMP!"

So damn pathetic.
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 1:21:03 PM
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megamanfreakXD
05/26/17 1:21:41 PM
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Anyone excited for stormblood FFXIV expansion?
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Mark_DeRosa
05/26/17 1:22:35 PM
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Why can't comics just be about good guys fighting the villains
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refmon
05/26/17 1:22:40 PM
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whos pushing the sjw agenda for marvel?
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DarthAragorn
05/26/17 1:23:09 PM
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Marvel comics are such garbage right now lmao
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 1:23:40 PM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
Why can't comics just be about good guys fighting the villains

DC does. Marvel used to, then something happened. No idea why.
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 1:30:20 PM
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ThanksUglyGod
05/26/17 1:37:20 PM
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To be fair, the Trump administration seems like something straight out of a comic book anyway
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Nomadic View
05/26/17 1:40:37 PM
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Instead of changing the direction that is driving them into the ground they're doubling down on sjw horseshit.

It's a private business, they can do what they want. But it makes me sad that one of my favorite companies would rather go bankrupt than stay out of politics.
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kuwab0
05/26/17 1:40:44 PM
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Bloodychess
05/26/17 1:41:18 PM
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Not as good as when they had a Black Captain America beat up MODOK-Trump
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 2:21:36 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
Not as good as when they had a Black Captain America beat up MODOK-Trump

You're right, this is worse which is my point.
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The Top Crusader
05/26/17 2:25:53 PM
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What happened to Marvel? I was an avid reader for a decade or so and this wasn't a thing... now whenever I hear about Marvel its some silly thing like this in a storyline or apparently most of the big heroes are now different people, like Iron Man was replaced by an African American girl and Hulk is Asian... what's going on!? :O

I think I quit reading regularly right before Civil War, picked up a few TPBs over the next couple years but've been out of it since.
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Antifar
05/26/17 2:29:27 PM
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I agree; it's inappropriate for them to compare Trump to Captain America.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/26/17 2:38:15 PM
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Antifar posted...
I agree; it's inappropriate for them to compare Trump to Captain America.


This. At least Captain America actually did some good before going to shit

Trump just started off as shit and has been nothing but that ever since
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JE19426
05/26/17 2:43:56 PM
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The Top Crusader posted...
What happened to Marvel? I was an avid reader for a decade or so and this wasn't a thing... now whenever I hear about Marvel its some silly thing like this in a storyline or apparently most of the big heroes are now different people, like Iron Man was replaced by an African American girl and Hulk is Asian... what's going on!? :O

I think I quit reading regularly right before Civil War, picked up a few TPBs over the next couple years but've been out of it since.


They decided that it's more profitable for comics to be adverts for movies than an product in itself.
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The Top Crusader
05/26/17 3:47:02 PM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Antifar posted...
I agree; it's inappropriate for them to compare Trump to Captain America.


This. At least Captain America actually did some good before going to shit

Trump just started off as shit and has been nothing but that ever since


Well Trump paid for a commercial free WWE Raw. Let's see Captain America do that!
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Bloodychess
05/26/17 5:07:03 PM
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The Top Crusader posted...
What happened to Marvel? I was an avid reader for a decade or so and this wasn't a thing... now whenever I hear about Marvel its some silly thing like this in a storyline or apparently most of the big heroes are now different people, like Iron Man was replaced by an African American girl and Hulk is Asian... what's going on!? :O


http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/

Disney to buy Marvel
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ChromaticAngel
05/26/17 5:31:35 PM
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The Top Crusader posted...
What happened to Marvel? I was an avid reader for a decade or so and this wasn't a thing... now whenever I hear about Marvel its some silly thing like this in a storyline or apparently most of the big heroes are now different people, like Iron Man was replaced by an African American girl and Hulk is Asian... what's going on!? :O

I think I quit reading regularly right before Civil War, picked up a few TPBs over the next couple years but've been out of it since.


what happened was the comics guys hate the movie guys and hate disney so they're intentionally ruining their own comics.

Some of them (Mockingbird) appear to be legitimate flops, but the timing of turning Captain America into a Nazi is nothing but deliberate brand sabotage.
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TheFuzz3451
05/26/17 5:37:36 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
what happened was the comics guys hate the movie guys and hate disney so they're intentionally ruining their own comics.


Proof?
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ChromaticAngel
05/26/17 5:44:00 PM
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TheFuzz3451 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
what happened was the comics guys hate the movie guys and hate disney so they're intentionally ruining their own comics.


Proof?


Feud between the competing movie industies, Disney, Fox, and Sony, where the main casualties are the comics.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/69649/8-insane-behind-the-scenes-things-happening-in-marvel-movies

Turning Captain America into a nazi is a clear deliberate attack against the MCU for fucking up the X-Men / F4 / Spider-Man comics.
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CruelBuffalo
05/26/17 6:10:26 PM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Why can't comics just be about good guys fighting the villains

DC does. Marvel used to, then something happened. No idea why.


Fucking Xmen is a giant allegory to the civil rights movement. What are you talking about.
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megATOMOS
05/26/17 6:13:01 PM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
http://screenrant.com/captain-america-hydra-fake-news/

Slight SPOILERS I guess for those of you out of the loop, but I'm referring to the Captain America after he's revealed to be working for Hydra.

He (Captain America) inacted a Musli- I mean Inhumans Ban, and now he's talking about how he'll take to Twitter and call out the media who are the true enemy with their "Fake News"

See, this is why DC comics are currently kicking Marvel's ass. Rebirth is good shit that can cover controversial material without saying "HEY, LIKE US BECAUSE WE SUPPORT BLACK LIVES MATTER AND HATE TRUMP!"

So damn pathetic.

you sound extremely triggered and I guarantee you don't even read comics, the entire alt-right circle jerk over Marvel is so transparent

I've picked up both issues of Secret Empire so far and it's been great
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 7:57:05 PM
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@CruelBuffalo posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Why can't comics just be about good guys fighting the villains

DC does. Marvel used to, then something happened. No idea why.


Fucking Xmen is a giant allegory to the civil rights movement. What are you talking about.

There is a HUGE difference between making an intelligent allegory/allusion, and stupidly advocating for your political views in a very blatant manner. Not only was the Xmen parallelism intentionally very nondescript, it made sense and was concerning an issue that has a more clearcut "good and bad." These more recent inclusions are not smart, are not in any way nondescript, don't paint a message, and due their best to position the president as a villain whenever they get a chance. ONE very specific person. Not a hateful movement or an organization, or a specific value. ONE specific person, in addition to the other things I mentioned.
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 8:00:25 PM
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@megATOMOS posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
http://screenrant.com/captain-america-hydra-fake-news/

Slight SPOILERS I guess for those of you out of the loop, but I'm referring to the Captain America after he's revealed to be working for Hydra.

He (Captain America) inacted a Musli- I mean Inhumans Ban, and now he's talking about how he'll take to Twitter and call out the media who are the true enemy with their "Fake News"

See, this is why DC comics are currently kicking Marvel's ass. Rebirth is good shit that can cover controversial material without saying "HEY, LIKE US BECAUSE WE SUPPORT BLACK LIVES MATTER AND HATE TRUMP!"

So damn pathetic.

you sound extremely triggered and I guarantee you don't even read comics, the entire alt-right circle jerk over Marvel is so transparent

I've picked up both issues of Secret Empire so far and it's been great

You would be 100% wrong. I mentioned itt I haven't read Marvel post Secret Wars (for this SJW reason), but I've read a lot before then, and I still read DC and Rebirth now. You could say I'm more casual and I'm not one of those comic book fans who recalls the name of every writer during each run, but I've read at least a couple hundred issues from Marvel and DC comics.
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Skye Reynolds
05/26/17 8:07:35 PM
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Why not just have a superhero piss on an American flag and strangle Cap with it? If they hurry, they can get a cover out by Memorial Day for maximum edge.

Disney should just shut down the comics division and put that money toward producing cartoons. They reach a larger audience and they have less political input from people who should stay the fuck out of politics.
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Blue_Inigo
05/26/17 8:09:26 PM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
Why can't comics just be about good guys fighting the villains

Comics have always had political undertones of some kind in them. The X-men used to be symbolism for the Civil Rights movement in their hey day.
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Terra-enforcer
05/26/17 9:29:23 PM
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@Blue_Inigo posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Why can't comics just be about good guys fighting the villains

Comics have always had political undertones of some kind in them. The X-men used to be symbolism for the Civil Rights movement in their hey day.

Terra-enforcer posted...
There is a HUGE difference between making an intelligent allegory/allusion, and stupidly advocating for your political views in a very blatant manner. Not only was the Xmen parallelism intentionally very nondescript, it made sense and was concerning an issue that has a more clearcut "good and bad." These more recent inclusions are not smart, are not in any way nondescript, don't paint a message, and due their best to position the president as a villain whenever they get a chance. ONE very specific person. Not a hateful movement or an organization, or a specific value. ONE specific person, in addition to the other things I mentioned.

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Skye Reynolds
05/26/17 10:20:50 PM
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Seriously though, I don't get why Disney allows this shit. You can't tell me it's good for business to make a classic hero into a fascist. I was in a store shortly after the reveal and I saw some waffles with Marvel characters on them. I thought to myself, "Look, there's a Nazi on that box of Eggos."

The comic artists should not be allowed to spite the filmmakers. That'd be like the letting the guy who works the register at a McDonald's attempt to sabotage a regional manager. Fire the McMother Fuckers and replace them. It's the dumbest shit and it seems like it goes on simply because Disney seems completely unconcerned with the fact that the comics themselves even still exist.
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