Current Events > muslim leader claims that islam is a violent religion that teaches killing

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http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/muslim-leaders-clash-in-fiery-debate-on-sunrise/news-story/6b12d1ea61b82dca878d702e2fcba7e9

“We have a situation where a month doesn’t go by without a terrorist attack happening somewhere around the world,” he said.

“For 1400 years we have had a religion of war, that’s exactly what we have had. This is not something I’m imagining,” he said.

He added Islam had spread from the Middle East to other parts of the world through war.

“The Islamic scriptures are exactly the thing that’s pushing these people to behead the infidel,” he said.

“Our books teach the beheading of people,”

Imam Tawhidi has also spoken out about ISIS in the past and says he has been called a “fake Muslim” by the community when he speaks about Islamic radicalisation in Australia.

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There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.
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Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

Surprised to see you post this, but I agree.
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hm well that settles that
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@-Gavirulax-
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Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

Immediately had to go rith to Christianity, didn't you?

Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

Yeah, because it's not like Islam doesn't have a history of conquest or anything. It's not like its founder wasn't a conquerer or anything.
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Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

If agree with you, but that doesn't seem to be the case when a lot of radical Islamic violence is committed by second generation Muslims who are born and raised in western nations or converts who are radicalized. How can you blame it on people from certain regions when it's also done by young Muslim men from the enlightened west?

I don't think we can fairly deny that the religion is at least one factor, if not the defining factor. I mean, it's not like it's just poor Muslims doing it. A lot of them, like Bin Laden, were wealth and educated.
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HogRiderreturns posted...

Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

Immediately had to go rith to Christianity, didn't you?

It is the most closely related thing, for comparison. Maybe try not being immediately butthurt when Christianity is rightly called out for being just as full of shit?
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Edgemaster97 posted...

The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

no it doesnt, jesus explicitly stopped people from doing thag

So how long before this guy gets murdered for speaking out about it?
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scoobydoobydont posted...

HogRiderreturns posted...

Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

Immediately had to go rith to Christianity, didn't you?

It is the most closely related thing, for comparison. Maybe try not being immediately butthurt when Christianity is rightly called out for being just as full of shit?

I wasn't calling out Christianity. Stop projecting.

Just the opposite; you don't see Christians or Jews staging public executions for apostates. Islam is the religion being used to breed violent extremism.
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so is he going to stop being a Muslim?
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Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

truly a fitting name

Edge master

literally the first reply saying "BUT CHRISTIANS!!!"


except you know the whole story where Jesus told the Jews to NOT stone an adulterer and let her go

also, did you know the Old Testament which is not binding to Christians is something Islam still believes in many ways?
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My God, all the Trumpeters must be giddy over this.
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scoobydoobydont posted...

Maybe try not being immediately butthurt when Christianity is rightly called out for being just as full of shit?

darkphoenix181 posted...

except you know the whole story where Jesus told the Jews to NOT stone an adulterer and let her go

HogRiderreturns posted...

scoobydoobydont posted...

Maybe try not being immediately butthurt when Christianity is rightly called out for being just as full of shit?

darkphoenix181 posted...

except you know the whole story where Jesus told the Jews to NOT stone an adulterer and let her go

Yes because Christians are definitely renown for doing what Jesus wants them to lmao
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

Yes because Christians are definitely renown for doing what Jesus wants them to lmao

so your argument is that yes Christianity teaches to not stone adulterers

but you don't care because people who disobey what Jesus tells them to do try to claim they are Christians?

and yet if a Muslim follows the holy text that says to behead the infidel, he is somehow not a true muslim?
as the Imam says:

%u201CThe Islamic scriptures are exactly the thing that%u2019s pushing these people to behead the infidel,%u201D he said.

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It doesn't matter if "Jesus said not to do something" if people still use your religion as an excuse to do said thing.

Just admit that Christianity and Islam are both cancerous and toxic religions
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

It doesn't matter if "Jesus said not to do something" if people still use your religion as an excuse to do said thing.

Just admit that Christianity and Islam are both cancerous and toxic religions

They're not though, lol
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

It doesn't matter if "Jesus said not to do something" if people still use your religion as an excuse to do said thing.

Just admit that Christianity and Islam are both cancerous and toxic religions

if someone claimed MLK shows why you should be racist they are valid and MLK's doctrine is a cancerous doctrine?

obviously any logical person would say no

you can't do the exact opposite of what a person preached and call yourself their follower to make them look bad
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

It doesn't matter if "Jesus said not to do something" if people still use your religion as an excuse to do said thing.

Just admit that Christianity and Islam are both cancerous and toxic religions

if someone claimed MLK shows why you should be racist they are valid and MLK's doctrine is a cancerous doctrine?

obviously any logical person would say no

you can't do the exact opposite of what a person preached and call yourself their follower to make them look bad

Wut

The difference is that the Bible literally has shit like that in it's verses, and people choose to pick and choose on what to follow and what not to follow from said bible

It's why you have shit like gay conversion therapy and sterilization and other fucked up things in Africa
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

It doesn't matter if "Jesus said not to do something" if people still use your religion as an excuse to do said thing.

Just admit that Christianity and Islam are both cancerous and toxic religions

if someone claimed MLK shows why you should be racist they are valid and MLK's doctrine is a cancerous doctrine?

obviously any logical person would say no

you can't do the exact opposite of what a person preached and call yourself their follower to make them look bad

Wut

The difference is that the Bible literally has shit like that in it's verses, and people choose to pick and choose on what to follow and what not to follow from said bible

It's why you have shit like gay conversion therapy and sterilization and other fucked up things in Africa

what is difficult to understand?

if you want to be a follower of a person, you follow what they do, and what they say

a person saying "I know Jesus said this but I don't care and will not follow it, instead I will follow the Old Testament and stone adulterers"

is not a Christian, they are following Judaism

what part of that do you not get?
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Okay so we are all in agreement that Christianity and Islam are toxic religions and that's islam happens to be the worst of the two

Fantastic
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

Okay so we are all in agreement that Christianity and Islam are toxic religions and that's islam happens to be the worst of the two

Fantastic

you apparently don't understand Christianity

"Oh Jesus said to not stone the adulteress because we are all just as guilty. Obviously Christians stone adulteres then!!!!

oh those guys are stoning adulteres! They must be Christians!!

what? Jesus said don't kill people? That dude just killed people he must be the BEST christian ever!"

genius
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-Gavirulax- posted...

He was attacked simply for walking through a Muslim majority area in Sydney - most of the Islamic community doesn't consider him a Muslim anyway - just because he thinks Islam should join the rest of the world in the 21st Century.

just to clarify. the ones that attack him aren't even extremists
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when the Muslims (I think they were Arab) spread to Iran (Persians) they eliminated Zoroastrianism didnt they?
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CE is worthless.
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someone should post that comic for this drone^
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Gonna suck when he's killed for trying to modernize Islam
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most religions are toxic people just tend to "forget" when it's their own religion
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There are reasons certain things are in the Bible and if you'd follow the text from beginning to end, not to mention actually THINK about it (I know, difficult concept this day and age), you wouldn't be so quick to denounce it.
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gmanthebest posted...

Gonna suck when he's killed for trying to modernize Islam

you joke but its actually a legitimate threat from a religion like islam
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I see Islam finally got their PR department up and running.
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HainoRocks posted...

There are reasons certain things are in the Bible and if you'd follow the text from beginning to end, not to mention actually THINK about it (I know, difficult concept this day and age), you wouldn't be so quick to denounce it.

There's no use to convincing the neckbeards from r/atheism that their approach on the Bible is all wrong, so don't even bother debating them.
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ModLogic posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Gonna suck when he's killed for trying to modernize Islam

you joke but its actually a legitimate threat from a religion like islam

I'm not even joking. It's fucked up.
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Never fails to amuse me seeing atheist try to tell why someone's religion is wrong...by blatantly misunderstanding the bible/Quran and speaking about stuff they don't know about.
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Denzien_of_Sega posted...

Never fails to amuse me seeing atheist try to tell why someone's religion is wrong...by blatantly misunderstanding the bible/Quran and speaking about stuff they don't know about.

hurr

-Gavirulax- posted...

If Tawhidi actually does go through with moving into the Islam majority areas in SW Sydney, I think (within 2 months) he'll be psychically attacked.

You know, in the name of tolerance and all. <3

aye religion of peace
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Edgemaster97 posted...

The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

John 8:4-7
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Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

B..bb...bbb..buuttt Christianity! (Am I doing it right, Anti-Trumpers? I learned it from you)
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Capn Circus posted...

Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

B..bb...bbb..buuttt Christianity! (Am I doing it right, Anti-Trumpers? I learned it from you)

You should get your ass checked out by a doctor it appears to be bleeding everywhere.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Capn Circus posted...

Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

B..bb...bbb..buuttt Christianity! (Am I doing it right, Anti-Trumpers? I learned it from you)

You should get your ass checked out by a doctor it appears to be bleeding everywhere.

Hey, now. No need for the insults. I just want to learn the sleekness of liberal sarcasm.
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Paragon21XX posted...

HainoRocks posted...

There are reasons certain things are in the Bible and if you'd follow the text from beginning to end, not to mention actually THINK about it (I know, difficult concept this day and age), you wouldn't be so quick to denounce it.

There's no use to convincing the neckbeards from r/atheism that their approach on the Bible is all wrong, so don't even bother debating them.

Atheists aren't above salvation. I just don't want them to have a Damascus road experience to realize it like I did.
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Westerners comparing islam to western religions as a form of retort or defense immediately shows their complete and total ignorance of what islam is. Islam is nothing like any modern day religion in its CURRENT form and anyone that would insinuate it is, is an uninformed mouthbreather drunk on media propaganda
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You're acting like Christians are so innocent.
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Edgemaster97 posted...

There's more to it than just the scripture, though. The Christian bible advocates the stoning of adulterers.

The problem is that a bunch of fucked up people from a fucked up region are using Islam to fuel an imperialist outreach policy.

Except the new testament does away with that in teaching that Christ redeems all.
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It's weird people focus so much on people being more a product of their environment than of their faith when a lot of terrorists were raised in Europe.