Current Events > why are people against a pause button for the Souls series?

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You also just don't start a bonfire run when you're expecting to have obligations within the next 15 to 30 minutes.

yea i for one know stuff never comes up out of the blue. mods close this topic

I love how Need For Speed 2015 got shit for always online but people are willing to defend Dark Souls over this
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Because the games didnt always have an offline mode, its just a legacy hold over. They could probably allow you to pause offline now but whatever, its just a game.
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thompsontalker7 posted...

I love how Need For Speed 2015 got shit for always online but people are willing to defend Dark Souls over this

What do you mean? Dark Souls isn't always online.
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Kuuko posted...

thompsontalker7 posted...

I love how Need For Speed 2015 got shit for always online but people are willing to defend Dark Souls over this

What do you mean? Dark Souls isn't always online.

You can't pause in either as a result of the online mechanics.
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It's a reason I'll never play it tbh. I defend against the easy mode whining though.
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Sometimes you need to step away from the game to take care of real life matters. It doesn't matter what game it is.

Games already have a pause feature online that doesn't halt the game itself, it just gives you the option to access the pause menu as the game continues. It's an industry standard at this point, and there's no reason not to have it. Why anyone would advocate for it to be removed is beyond me, outside of some misplaced sense of elitism (i.e. "git gud", despite the presence of a pause button having nothing to do with skill) or just lapping up some corporate Kool-Aid about it being "archaic game design" or "not feasible to program any more".

You're a grade-A moron if a pause menu is something that you judge other people for using.

I mean, locking the "exit match" option for ranked matches? That's fine and dandy. Let people customise that shit, lock people in so they don't quit like a bitch. But there's no reason to remove it altogether.

EDIT: thought this topic was about SoulCalibur. This post could work either way, but that last segment of my post doesn't fit Dark Souls at all.
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single player games should always have a pause button. sometimes I need to shit or answer the phone or respond to a text or basically anything else. the multiplayer stuff isn't an excuse cause you can just make it unpausable once you make multi
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treewojima posted...

it's an egregious example of artificial difficulty

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Too many cowards would abuse it to take a breather during boss fights.
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Back_Stabbath posted...

Too many cowards would abuse it to take a breather during boss fights.

In what way

Is that

Cowardly?

It would be ok in offline mode if the screen went black and you had no options menu.
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I like there being no pause button. Adds to the intensity.
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Leanaunfurled posted...

MegaTech posted...

Come to a compromise. Pause offline. No pause online. I couldn't care less either way

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AlternativeFAQS posted...

what if you have to poop

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I dunno.

I personally love being able to navigate menus/change gear/etc without pausing. It saves you so much time being able to do that stuff while moving to the next fight or waiting for an elevator.
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The only reason I can think of is, because it is supposed to be played online.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

Back_Stabbath posted...

Too many cowards would abuse it to take a breather during boss fights.

In what way

Is that

Cowardly?

eh, i feel the whole point of the souls series (early on atleast when you aren't OP) is the adrenaline rush of not being able to screw up, but staying composed and figuring a way through. Being able to pause mid-animation so you can collect yourself and take time to figure out what you wanna do takes that away completely. to each their own though.
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RedWhiteBlue posted...

Because the series isn't about taking your time and relaxing. It's to challenge you, make you think, learn, be reactionary. You learn your lessons from dying and running back, learning how enemies fight.

Megaman did that way back and it had a pause button
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I have a much less romantic and more practical viewpoint. If it's such a huge problem for you, don't play the game.

From Software isn't going to care because another Souls game will still sell like hotcakes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm6BPWZd8WU
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FrenchCrunch posted...

what does this have to do with pausing

like is someone gonna pause/unpause repeatedly super fast so it looks like everything is in slow motion?

I... actually used to do something similar to this when I was little back in the 90s, playing SNES games. In fact, two Ascii controllers I had had the ability to enable "slow-mo", which in reality was triggering the Start button over and over.
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Due to online invasions.

The game should let you pause when you're playing in offline mode IMO.
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I love the "It ruins the intensity" reason that morons give. No one is forcing you to pause the game if you don't want to.
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Wouldn't mind pausing for offline, sure.

Is it a bad game because it doesn't though? No, not really. As others have said it's rather easy to take a break/walk away from the game if you need to. It's just not mapped to a button.
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is it really that hard to just stand there? I've stood somewhere for hours in the souls game and nothing ever happened when I was offline. Is this one of these fake news complaints?

It's not like Resident Evil 7 or anything where enemies will follow you across the map if you take too long, sheesh
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

Is this one of these fake news complaints?

It's a trolling topic that like 5 people are taking seriously
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No pause button!

The Dark Souls series is not meant to hold your hand like you're a little kid learning how to cross the street for the first time. The developers wanted it this way. You are supposed to focus on the game's challenges and consider the consequences of your actions. Don't worry, there are thousands of other games available where you can act like a reckless, unaware moron and still finish with a win.
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Back_Stabbath posted...

eh, i feel the whole point of the souls series (early on atleast when you aren't OP) is the adrenaline rush of not being able to screw up, but staying composed and figuring a way through. Being able to pause mid-animation so you can collect yourself and take time to figure out what you wanna do takes that away completely. to each their own though.

there are reasons to pause other than "so you can collect yourself and take time to figure out what you wanna do"

MacadamianNut3 posted...

I have a much less romantic and more practical viewpoint. If it's such a huge problem for you, don't play the game.

From Software isn't going to care because another Souls game will still sell like hotcakes

what does the souls series' ball sweat taste like

Akagami_Shanks posted...

is it really that hard to just stand there? I've stood somewhere for hours in the souls game and nothing ever happened when I was offline. Is this one of these fake news complaints?

what if im in a fight when my phone rings

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

No pause button!

The Dark Souls series is not meant to hold your hand like you're a little kid learning how to cross the street for the first time. The developers wanted it this way. You are supposed to focus on the game's challenges and consider the consequences of your actions. Don't worry, there are thousands of other games available where you can act like a reckless, unaware moron and still finish with a win.

wanting a pause button makes ppl reckless unaware morons

FrenchCrunch posted...

MacadamianNut3 posted...

I have a much less romantic and more practical viewpoint. If it's such a huge problem for you, don't play the game.

From Software isn't going to care because another Souls game will still sell like hotcakes

what does the souls series' ball sweat taste like

Random alt person, stop trying to get my attention. I already know people like green butter and drunkmuggle are doing their usual routine here. The only difference with you is that I didn't care enough to keep track of who you are

Also I heard if you have cake sweat you might not be getting enough sodium in your diet, so let that marinate
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FrenchCrunch posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

No pause button!

The Dark Souls series is not meant to hold your hand like you're a little kid learning how to cross the street for the first time. The developers wanted it this way. You are supposed to focus on the game's challenges and consider the consequences of your actions. Don't worry, there are thousands of other games available where you can act like a reckless, unaware moron and still finish with a win.

wanting a pause button makes ppl reckless unaware morons

Eh, not always. I admit that. Maybe you need to answer the phone or use the bathroom. Sorry, it makes no difference. Dark Souls is meant to be a dangerous world. Can't tell the monsters to wait for you while you make a ham sandwich. At least there are many corners that are "safe" to relax at, and you get to stay at the bonfires.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

what if im in a fight when my phone rings

If it isn't someone you want to talk to, you ignore it. If it is, you quickly answer and put them on speaker until you get to a safe area.
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then you finish the fight and call them back

although I am well aware this is a troll thread at this point
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

Random alt person

lol

uwnim posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

what if im in a fight when my phone rings

If it isn't someone you want to talk to, you ignore it. If it is, you quickly answer and put them on speaker until you get to a safe area.

then i die while answering the phone

a compromise would be

adding a pause button

it takes nothing away from your game experience, yet enhances it for others. thats what they call a win

win

Akagami_Shanks posted...

then you finish the fight and call them back

although I am well aware this is a troll thread at this point

i dont know if the call is important or not

how am i trolling per se

if it was important they will send you a text or call you again, easy.
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I wonder if alt-tabbing pauses the game.
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Lonestar2000 posted...

I wonder if alt-tabbing pauses the game.

no
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Lonestar2000 posted...

I wonder if alt-tabbing pauses the game.

Nope
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Souls games are just for try-hard nerds. People are literally defending the lack of a pause button. lmfao
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

if it was important they will send you a text or call you again, easy.

sorry but some people prioritize potentially important phone calls over a game, but they still wouldnt want to lose in that game unnecessarily

it's not crazy

FrenchCrunch posted...

it takes nothing away from your game experience, yet enhances it for others. thats what they call a win

win

There's some exploits (artificial frame advancement) that might be possible with pausing

But seriously, offline it shouldn't be so hard to just give a pause option even if it was limited to just when not in combat.
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i just dont understand opposing it. it's not like you have to use it

As someone who loves the Souls franchise, wtf is wrong with idiots defending it not having a pause button?

Because of online and the devs wanting people to play online? In that case remove offline mode if your so worried.
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neverwin posted...

As someone who loves the Souls franchise, wtf is wrong with idiots defending it not having a pause button?

Because of online and the devs wanting people to play online? In that case remove offline mode if your so worried.

americans hate change, even if for the better
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